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K Major 02-08-2017 09:07 PM

Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
BY NICK UNDERHILL | NUNDERHILL@THEADVOCATE.COM
Nick Underhill

FEB 7, 2017 - 3:36 PM

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Sean Payton often talks about “the game.”

He watches the Super Bowl intently to see what the two remaining teams are doing and how they got to that point. Two years ago, he mentioned how the New England Patriots and Seattle Seahawks played defense. Last year, the Denver Broncos' pass rush stood out.

It's time to add speed to our defense.

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jeanpierre 02-08-2017 10:28 PM

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Nick Underhill starring as...Captain Obvious...

Wonder if he's related to Ted Underhill?!?

RockyMountainSaint 02-08-2017 10:56 PM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
So many holes and incomplete analysis in his article.

"Speed" in the NFL is an elusive thing to corral.

Scheme and discipline, combined with speed, are wonderful, but elusive things.

Who the hell knows at this point?

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dizzle88 02-09-2017 04:29 AM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
Deion Jones has all those things, SP just couldn't bear to draft an LSU player and now it's proving costly for us.

hagan714 02-09-2017 04:47 AM

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All defense Speed draft

Jabrill Peppers SS/FS/OLB/KR Michigan 6002 205 4.42 #5 rSo
Haason Reddick, ILB, Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
*Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR/PR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr
Jordan Willis WDE/OLB Kansas St 6041 250 4.67 #75 Sr
Isaac Rochell DE/DT ND 6031 290 4.86 #90 Sr
Jeremy Cutrer CB/FS Middle Tennesse 6011 170 4.49 #8 Sr

Still would not get us back into the playoff

neugey 02-09-2017 07:11 AM

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Sign some fast players and "charge it to the Underhills"

RaginCajun83 02-09-2017 03:33 PM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
He's way off base, if speed was important then the Raiders would of won 5 SBs before Al Davis passed away

ChrisXVI 02-09-2017 05:09 PM

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Speed is nothing without instincts. See: Stephone Anthony.

Utah_Saint 02-09-2017 07:24 PM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 736318)
Deion Jones has all those things, SP just couldn't bear to draft an LSU player and now it's proving costly for us.

Do you think it was a matter of not bearing "to draft an LSU player"? Or maybe he thought replacing Colston was a higher priority and Michael Thomas graded out as a more pressing need at the time?

Danno 02-09-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
Pretty much all of us have been harping on adding team speed for about a decade now.

It may be quite obvious to all of us who follow them daily, but this is the time of year when articles like this are written for the casual fan, not the obsessed psychos like most of us are.

Danno 02-09-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 736367)
Speed is nothing without instincts. See: Stephone Anthony.

And Martez Wilson, who IIRC was the fastest LB in the draft that year.

Danno 02-09-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 736384)
Do you think it was a matter of not bearing "to draft an LSU player"? Or maybe he thought replacing Colston was a higher priority and Michael Thomas graded out as a more pressing need at the time?

Yeah, the whole "Payton hates LSU players" is pretty dumb and its wearing thin.

dizzle88 02-09-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 736387)
And Martez Wilson, who IIRC was the fastest LB in the draft that year.

I don't think it helped that he was drafted as an inside linebacker from a 3-4 defense and we changed his position 3 times before releasing him.

Middle linebacker, to outside backer and then finally moved to DE under spags, then released.

Plus joe vitt coached him, that's a death sentence if anyone needed one pointed out to them.

Danno 02-09-2017 07:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 736389)
I don't think it helped that he was drafted as an inside linebacker from a 3-4 defense and we changed his position 3 times before releasing him.

Middle linebacker, to outside backer and then finally moved to DE under spags, then released.

Plus joe vitt coached him, that's a death sentence if anyone needed one pointed out to them.

But 2 other teams picked him up and released him as well.

Vitt wasn't the problem. Martez Wilson was the problem

Papa Voodoo 02-10-2017 10:43 AM

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The Patriots haven't won all these SBs because they had built for speed. example: Patrick Robinson (CJ Spiller, Heyward-Bay). I think we're all in consensus that Rickey Jackson was much better than Pat Swilling.

K Major 02-10-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 736435)
The Patriots haven't won all these SBs because they had built for speed. example: Patrick Robinson (CJ Spiller, Heyward-Bay). I think we're all in consensus that Rickey Jackson was much better than Pat Swilling.

Elite HC, elite GM, elite QB, above average coaching staff, solid drafting, rarely over pay players, solid FA picks up etc, etc. I try to exclude the Pats in team comparison.

They aren't the norm.

frydaddy 02-10-2017 01:06 PM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 736384)
Do you think it was a matter of not bearing "to draft an LSU player"? Or maybe he thought replacing Colston was a higher priority and Michael Thomas graded out as a more pressing need at the time?

I agree, and I'm an LSU fan and would've loved to get Jones. But if you gave me the choice again I'd take Thomas every damn time.

rooftoften12 02-11-2017 12:13 AM

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Hi. I am from Washington State and have always been a die-hard Seahawks fans since they began and they're from my state that's a given. And I'm no guru or expert but I am Sports enthusiast and I have always been in awe about how a person can keep this specific gift of seeing a play develop before it happens. And you guys are in for a treat. Not only should that defense be speedy but they've got to be smart they've gotta know when they're being decoyed and they've got or no and get used to the opposition's snap count. I also believe that once you got all that figured out then you got to know how to tackle the guy that's coming at you or the guy your going after. That's an overwhelming amount to handle. But I have been proven wrong and I really believe that Adam bighill my nephew is going to change your way of thinking. He is it going to show everyone that the term student of the game pays off tremendously this boy has such a special knack for seeing you play develop and knowing when that ball is going to be snapped I know you're all saying that he's a relative so naturally he's the best in my eyes, but I would not put myself on this post if I didn't firmly believe that Adam is going to help the Saints get there. I grew up liking the Saints when I was a kid and I still do I love Drew breezes play and three I think three of your receivers have records and within the team for receiving yards and all that and I just can't stress enough for you to please check out Adam bighill I really think you're going to understand what I'm saying when you see him play. I wouldn't have believed it myself if I didn't see it with my own eyes since his senior year in high school. Even with colleges turning him down and almost not making you the CFL try out or just getting people to look at him I've always known hands down that he's going to be picked and when he's picked Lookout so go Saints and I'm just getting with excitement because I know you guys are really going to like it okay I'm done now I'll stop talking.go Saints

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hagan714 02-11-2017 05:18 AM

Re: Nick Underhill's analysis: One of the Saints' biggest goals this offseason should be adding speed to the defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rooftoften12 (Post 736469)
Hi. I am from Washington State and have always been a die-hard Seahawks fans since they began and they're from my state that's a given. And I'm no guru or expert but I am Sports enthusiast and I have always been in awe about how a person can keep this specific gift of seeing a play develop before it happens. And you guys are in for a treat. Not only should that defense be speedy but they've got to be smart they've gotta know when they're being decoyed and they've got or no and get used to the opposition's snap count. I also believe that once you got all that figured out then you got to know how to tackle the guy that's coming at you or the guy your going after. That's an overwhelming amount to handle. But I have been proven wrong and I really believe that Adam bighill my nephew is going to change your way of thinking. He is it going to show everyone that the term student of the game pays off tremendously this boy has such a special knack for seeing you play develop and knowing when that ball is going to be snapped I know you're all saying that he's a relative so naturally he's the best in my eyes, but I would not put myself on this post if I didn't firmly believe that Adam is going to help the Saints get there. I grew up liking the Saints when I was a kid and I still do I love Drew breezes play and three I think three of your receivers have records and within the team for receiving yards and all that and I just can't stress enough for you to please check out Adam bighill I really think you're going to understand what I'm saying when you see him play. I wouldn't have believed it myself if I didn't see it with my own eyes since his senior year in high school. Even with colleges turning him down and almost not making you the CFL try out or just getting people to look at him I've always known hands down that he's going to be picked and when he's picked Lookout so go Saints and I'm just getting with excitement because I know you guys are really going to like it okay I'm done now I'll stop talking.go Saints

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Welcome to the board,

Adam Bighill?

I am looking forward to seeing what he can do. My first reaction to the signing and looking into him was oh goodie another mighty mouse sigh. In the next breath I muttered Sam Mills. Lesson learned. If DA gave his approval to bring him in then there something there he wants. In DA I trust.

One thing I really like about saints fans is the way they will be behind you as soon as you put on the uniform. We love hard nose players that just love the game. We are also huge suckers for under the radar signing. We live for the "Who the heck is this guy?" to step up and show us he can play. Saints fans are a loyal bunch.

If he gets his chance on special teams in year one and plays well, he will get all the support he needs from the stands. We are an educated bunch and know how to look deep into a bench to see talent.

Best of luck to him and I can not wait for him to hit the field.


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