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triman 02-09-2017 02:37 AM

STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY
 
Christian McCafferty is a player who would be a really good fit for the saints. He has impressed me with his ability to fill all the requirements running the ball and also as a receiver.
He excels at the kick returner duty as well. Payton would use him in the same way as Sproles. He can do it all and would be a great weapon in our arsenal. I would not mind giving up a 2nd rd pick for him. Thoughts, opinions?

hagan714 02-09-2017 04:04 AM

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I am haunted by Christian.

Every Mock I do I always have trades in mind to get this kid. I can not shake this man crush. My gut thinks he is the best back in the draft for the saints offense. Avctually the best in a few years. His skill set would solve so many of those secondary needs to help finish off this offense. RB/WR/KR.

His biggest selling point is the fact he opens up the playbook without causing starter conflicts.

This is the draft move I can not shake.

Trade down a bit in 1 pick up some picks to be able to trade back up to get Christian.

He is not getting the respect he deserves in the polls. Ranking the safe picks in the draft he is in my top 5

How would saints nation react to a draft of

Trade back Lap Gift Drop
Jabrill Peppers SS/FS/OLB/KR/RB Michigan 6002 205 4.42 #5 rSo

Trade up
Christian McCaffrey RB/WR/KR Stanford 5115 205 4.48 Jr

Round 3 Lap Gift Drop
*Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR/PR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr

Talk about instant impact talent on both sides of the ball

halloween 65 02-09-2017 06:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736317)
I am haunted by Christian.

Every Mock I do I always have trades in mind to get this kid. I can not shake this man crush. My gut thinks he is the best back in the draft for the saints offense. Avctually the best in a few years. His skill set would solve so many of those secondary needs to help finish off this offense. RB/WR/KR.

His biggest selling point is the fact he opens up the playbook without causing starter conflicts.

This is the draft move I can not shake.

Trade down a bit in 1 pick up some picks to be able to trade back up to get Christian.

He is not getting the respect he deserves in the polls. Ranking the safe picks in the draft he is in my top 5

How would saints nation react to a draft of

Trade back Lap Gift Drop
Jabrill Peppers SS/FS/OLB/KR/RB Michigan 6002 205 4.42 #5 rSo

Trade up
Christian McCaffrey RB/WR/KR Stanford 5115 205 4.48 Jr

Round 3 Lap Gift Drop
*Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR/PR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr

Talk about instant impact talent on both sides of the ball

Thats some serious speed. Peppers makes Vaccarro expendable day 1, McCaffrey opens up the O and we get a CB with hands. Now I could be all about this if we get Hankins for the D-line and the backup MLB from Carolina. What do we get for Vaccarro?

neugey 02-09-2017 07:09 AM

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He could be a very nice weapon. I just hope he's got a lot left - the few Stanford games I saw it seems like they overused him, went to him on almost every play.

Seer1 02-09-2017 07:26 AM

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We don't need Peppers, we don't need McCafferty! We need the big boys! Where's the beef?

McCafferty won't do squat for us without'em and little Peppers has maybe three years in the big leagues before he's carted off for good.

frydaddy 02-09-2017 07:46 AM

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I wouldn't mind having him, but not at 11, and I don't think he lasts till round 2. Considering there are a good number of elite prospects at the top of this draft I don't really want to see us trade back. Snag a defensive stud at 11 then trade back into the end of round one for him? Is he worth it?

Still don't know what anyone sees in Peppers. He's a great athlete, he's not a great football player. Not only is he a gadget player with no true position, he's a project who probably won't be ready to make an impact for a year or two at best. I would be crushed if we take him in the first. Brings back memories of SJB too much for me.

dizzle88 02-09-2017 08:06 AM

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We need far too much defensive help to contemplate drafting him, like the first 3 rounds at least need to be all defensive players.

And no reaches or projects! We need instant contributors!

K Major 02-09-2017 09:24 AM

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At pick #11? Not for me. Christian looks like he could be special at the next level but not that high up. Here is my short list ...

Jonathan Allen
Solomon Thomas
Reuben Foster, Reuben Foster or Reuben Foster.

Side note: I got a chance to see Solomon twice while at Coppell (area Dallas High School) many moons ago but the kid always stood out coming off the edge. He has certainly put in the work since then. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if he was the pick either.

C'mon Mr. Ireland, make it count at #11!

Beastmode 02-09-2017 11:51 AM

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RB's as everyone KNOWS are a dime a dozen. We better not be wasting anymore picks on a RB with our defense. Unless of course you want to see us continue our dynasty of mediocracy.

voodooido 02-09-2017 12:05 PM

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Only way I would consider these three is if we hit DE, CB and G hard in fa. We have 25 million without restructuring Byrd, strife and fleener. Very good chanc we free up another 5-8 million with them. If we go after JPP or Sheard in fa that frees up a pick in the first couple of rounds to get the bpa. My dream first 3 tds would be Foster in rd 1, tre white in rd 2 and elflein in the 3rd.

SaintFanInATLHELL 02-09-2017 12:06 PM

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The answer to the question is no. Just no.

The Saints have a player in Ingram that accounted for 1300+ scrimmage yards, 1000+ yards rushing, and a 5.1 YPC. And that essentially in a platoon role because Payton and Carmichael do not know how to actually have a feature back in their offense.

When you have a Top 5 offense and a bottom 10 defense, as always the focus for personnel should be on the defensive side of the ball.

The only exception to this is a stud offensive lineman, such as a guard. And even then the numbers on the guy would need to be all world to consider in the first round. Think along the lines of Zach Martin for the Cowboys.

We have already seen the formula for Superbowl success for the Payton regime. A Top 5 offense that rushes effectively and a mid pack defense that can rush the QB and take the ball away. Ingram and Hightower have two years of proving that they are an effective rushing attack. Defensively we really haven't seen either takeaways or sacks. So why is another running back even on the list?

SFIAH

halloween 65 02-09-2017 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 736331)
I wouldn't mind having him, but not at 11, and I don't think he lasts till round 2. Considering there are a good number of elite prospects at the top of this draft I don't really want to see us trade back. Snag a defensive stud at 11 then trade back into the end of round one for him? Is he worth it?

Still don't know what anyone sees in Peppers. He's a great athlete, he's not a great football player. Not only is he a gadget player with no true position, he's a project who probably won't be ready to make an impact for a year or two at best. I would be crushed if we take him in the first. Brings back memories of SJB too much for me.

Peppers kind of reminds me of a sniper, you can line him up about anywhere and get the job done. Gadget player, yes, but extreamly good at it. Would allow multiple looks and the way Allen likes to blitz, we're going to need it. Trading Vaccarro for a mid 2rd to early 3rd for another D pick would ease alot of problems- OLB.

Seer1 02-09-2017 12:42 PM

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Why would we trade a proven player who has now learned not to tackle with his head for a mid round pick and a little boy like Peppers? His successes were from playing lower quality schools. He barely showed up against Wisconsin and tOSU. We need real linebackers and linemen!

halloween 65 02-09-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 736349)
Why would we trade a proven player who has now learned not to tackle with his head for a mid round pick and a little boy like Peppers? His successes were from playing lower quality schools. He barely showed up against Wisconsin and tOSU. We need real linebackers and linemen!

Glad you ask, Peppers could step in Vaccarro's spot day 1 and the pick we get from an overated Vaccarro could be used to pick up 1 of those lb.'ers or lineman you speak of, hopefully an OLB with it.

voodooido 02-09-2017 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 736351)
Glad you ask, Peppers could step in Vaccarro's spot day 1 and the pick we get from an overated Vaccarro could be used to pick up 1 of those lb.'ers or lineman you speak of, hopefully an OLB with it.

Would not consider KV over rated. He played really well last year considering we had no CB help. As for Peppers he could step in at that #3 safety on the field right away. I would trade back if he was the player I wanted. Dont see him going in the to 15. Just too many "ifs" on where he would line up.

K Major 02-09-2017 02:20 PM

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Recent mock per WalterFootball.

https://walterfootball.com/draft2017charlie_2.php

frydaddy 02-09-2017 02:53 PM

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I think Kenny is just starting to play his best football. As others have said I think he was having a good season last year. Yeah he gives up catches sometimes but I disn't see him get targeted much and that leads me to believe he's not as bad in coverage as some of you think. He plays with attitude, has good range, starting to take better angles and tackle better. He was in on a number of turnovers last year too. I think it'd be a mistake to get rid of him now.

foreverfan 02-09-2017 05:36 PM

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FIRST ROUND SELECTION. I don't need anything else.

We need a play maker on DEFENSE that WILL CREATE MUTIPLE TURNOVERS
who has NEVER BEEN HURT IN COLLEGE.
POSITION DOESN'T MATTER.

If he doesn't exist on defense, then get the BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
THAT CAN PROTECT BREES in 2017
and
EXCEL AT THE RUNNING GAME
.

foreverfan 02-09-2017 05:53 PM

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billyt81 02-09-2017 05:57 PM

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If he is really an elite talent, i.e., 4.4 40, strong, quick and fast, proveable at the combine proving worthy of pick #11. If there is anything that has been proven about the draft it is that you can't pick soley off of need. That type of thinking gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry. If they think he's the best player available. Snag him. He'd look great in black and gold. One more thing. Am I allowed to say it'd be AWESOME to have a white tail back? OOPS!

foreverfan 02-09-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 736375)
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Seer1 02-09-2017 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 736375)
If he is really an elite talent, i.e., 4.4 40, strong, quick and fast, proveable at the combine proving worthy of pick #11. If there is anything that has been proven about the draft it is that you can't pick soley off of need. That type of thinking gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry. If they think he's the best player available. Snag him. He'd look great in black and gold. One more thing. Am I allowed to say it'd be AWESOME to have a white tail back? OOPS!

Why are you even a member of the BLACK and gold forum?

spkb25 02-09-2017 07:24 PM

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we need to dominate both sides of the line of scrimmage. However we do that IDC, but we need to dominate both Lines.

Beastmode 02-09-2017 08:40 PM

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If we get any offensive skill players in the first 4 rounds we are doomed again. I would actually be working with the Browns to trade down for more picks. A lot of value in this draft on defense. Maybe not top choice but certainly decent enough to improve our trenches. Browns need to make a big splash.

voodooido 02-10-2017 01:25 PM

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The Browns have 2 top 12 picks and the #1 pick in rd 2. Doubt they trade back into the first.

Euphoria 02-10-2017 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 736341)
RB's as everyone KNOWS are a dime a dozen. We better not be wasting anymore picks on a RB with our defense. Unless of course you want to see us continue our dynasty of mediocracy.

they are but the problem is finding one or 3 that fit our system.

rezburna 02-10-2017 04:02 PM

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I want to see his 40 time.

K Major 02-10-2017 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 736442)
The Browns have 2 top 12 picks and the #1 pick in rd 2. Doubt they trade back into the first.

Browns should be able to "hit" on one, if not both of those high picks. I could see them going after D Watson late 1st round (assuming he is still there).

RGIII may not be the answer and he is broken.

aquaboogie 02-10-2017 11:37 PM

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Can McCaffery Rush the passer? Can Peppers rush the passer? Non blitz.
No thanks to both unless they fall to a lower round! Good players, but, they won't help the team improve.

Rugby Saint II 02-11-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aquaboogie (Post 736467)
Can McCaffery Rush the passer? Can Peppers rush the passer? Non blitz.
No thanks to both unless they fall to a lower round! Good players, but, they won't help the team improve.

Nailed it!!! We need defense.
:stupid:

vpheughan 02-11-2017 03:52 PM

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All the sports talk shows here in Indy have the Colts going after McCafferty

hagan714 02-11-2017 05:56 PM

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I can see him on Indies short list at 14

triman 02-12-2017 12:48 PM

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I would not draft him at #11 .

I might consider moving up in the top of rd 2.

FA is going to affect our needs depending on who we are able to sign,

I am intriqued by how this player would fit in our offense.

I do think that there is a need for a Sproles type of back and he seems to be a bigger version of that type of back.

Smart ,productive, high character. Nfl bloodline , a lot to like .
.


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