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K Major 03-27-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 742700)
Obi Melifonwu makes me a little nervous as a first round pick. Are the instincts there or the football IQ? He's a freakish athlete and a SPARQ monster but so was Stephone Anthony.

Certainly understandable.

Just from reading a few tweets on Obi, he has closing speed and middle of the field awareness are very good. Mike Mayock's recent analysis (feet/hip movement) of him seems to be more gear towards playing corner back in the NFL. He could end up as the next Taylor Mays or Kam Chancellor.

Seer1 03-27-2017 08:53 AM

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Trubisky? Really JP? You haven't been raiding Hagan's scotch stash have you?
Hagan's about talked me into a TE at eleven, but a single season QB?

jeanpierre 03-27-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 742707)
Trubisky? Really JP? You haven't been raiding Hagan's scotch stash have you?
Hagan's about talked me into a TE at eleven, but a single season QB?

LMAO...One Day when He gets back south, Hagan and I will meet up and raid the finer liquor establishments of the city and start riots all over the city re: Saints and Draft Picks...

Now, there are only three quarterbacks I take in this draft...

First Round - Mitchell Trubiskey, North Carolina

If we stay at No. 11, and Jamal Adams, Reuben Foster, Malik Hooker, Marshon Lattimore, Jon Allen, and of course, Myles Garrett are off the board, I take Trubiskey; he'll be a great QB and if Drew looks like he'll play three more, we can always trade him to the Brown's et al for a King's ransom...

Third Round - Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh

I think the Saints should definitely nab this kid if we've taken our DE, DB by the third round; really like this kid's moxie (impressive, poised takedown of Clemson); and he's got good arm strength; if Payton and he click, future will be secure...

Fifth Round - Chad Kelley, Ole Miss

Big Ole Miss fan, and this kid is as tough as nails with impressive defeats in the SEC including the Big Elephant; but his head is as tough as nails as well and I don't see Holmgren, Mariucci nor Gruden type that can handle this Favre-esque personality; but the physical tools are there...

Many of the other kids that are highly rated have some serious flaws in their games and played at Big Schools (e.g. Notre Dame, Clemson) where they had outstanding receivers that bailed them out time and again...

These three were quite impressive; if I had my choice, and I don't like my options at No. 11, I try to add a Day 2 pick and move back 5-10 spots...

Believe me, there are teams that want that 11th spot real bad in this draft...

K Major 03-27-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 742723)
Fifth Round - Chad Kelley, Ole Miss

Big Ole Miss fan, and this kid is as tough as nails with impressive defeats in the SEC including the Big Elephant; but his head is as tough as nails as well and I don't see Holmgren, Mariucci nor Gruden type that can handle this Favre-esque personality; but the physical tools are there...

You are right JP .. a lot of kids come through the NFL with all the tools but when it comes to the NFL and the QB position, it's all about off the field & how focused and committed these kids will be on the job. This is a Chief, decision-maker position. While you do need physical skills, it's the off the field things that make the difference. A million dollar arm (see Jamarcus, Leinart, Manzell) and a .15 cent head doesn't cut it at this level anymore.

I don't even think Kelly is on Sean Payton's radar.

ChrisXVI 03-28-2017 10:16 AM

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I wanted to see how things would unfold if we did take OJ Howard at 11...

R1P11 TE O.J. HOWARD ALABAMA

R1P32 CB QUINCY WILSON FLORIDA

R2P10 EDGE JORDAN WILLIS KANSAS STATE

R3P12 EDGE TYUS BOWSER HOUSTON

R3P39 EDGE TARELL BASHAM OHIO

R6P12 WR KENNY GOLLADAY NORTHERN ILLINOIS

R7P11 G JESSAMEN DUNKER TENNESSEE STATE

lee909 04-01-2017 04:56 AM

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First Pick

Just for fun a few trades


Trade
Indianapolis Gets Round 1 Pick 11 (11)
Saints get R1 Pick 15 (15) + R2 Pick 14 (46)

Raiders get R1 15
Saints get R1.24,R2.24,R3.24

Texans get R2.14
Saints get R2.25 + R2.32

Round 1 Pick 24 (OAK): Taco Charlton, DE/OLB, Michigan (A)
Round 1 Pick 32: Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt (A-)
Round 2 Pick 10: T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 2 Pick 24 (OAK): Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (B)
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B-)
Round 2 Pick 32 (CAR): Fabian Moreau, CB/FS, UCLA (B+)
Round 3 Pick 12: Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 3 Pick 24 (OAK): Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 39 (COMP): Davis Webb, QB, California (A-)
Round 6 Pick 12: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 7 Pick 11: Antony Auclair, TE, Laval (D+)

hagan714 04-01-2017 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 742855)
I wanted to see how things would unfold if we did take OJ Howard at 11...

R1P11 TE O.J. HOWARD ALABAMA

R1P32 CB QUINCY WILSON FLORIDA

R2P10 EDGE JORDAN WILLIS KANSAS STATE

R3P12 EDGE TYUS BOWSER HOUSTON

R3P39 EDGE TARELL BASHAM OHIO

R6P12 WR KENNY GOLLADAY NORTHERN ILLINOIS

R7P11 G JESSAMEN DUNKER TENNESSEE STATE

This would be an interesting draft to watch unfold through out the season

halloween 65 04-01-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 742723)
LMAO...One Day when He gets back south, Hagan and I will meet up and raid the finer liquor establishments of the city and start riots all over the city re: Saints and Draft Picks...

Now, there are only three quarterbacks I take in this draft...

First Round - Mitchell Trubiskey, North Carolina

If we stay at No. 11, and Jamal Adams, Reuben Foster, Malik Hooker, Marshon Lattimore, Jon Allen, and of course, Myles Garrett are off the board, I take Trubiskey; he'll be a great QB and if Drew looks like he'll play three more, we can always trade him to the Brown's et al for a King's ransom...

Third Round - Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh

I think the Saints should definitely nab this kid if we've taken our DE, DB by the third round; really like this kid's moxie (impressive, poised takedown of Clemson); and he's got good arm strength; if Payton and he click, future will be secure...

Fifth Round - Chad Kelley, Ole Miss

Big Ole Miss fan, and this kid is as tough as nails with impressive defeats in the SEC including the Big Elephant; but his head is as tough as nails as well and I don't see Holmgren, Mariucci nor Gruden type that can handle this Favre-esque personality; but the physical tools are there...

Many of the other kids that are highly rated have some serious flaws in their games and played at Big Schools (e.g. Notre Dame, Clemson) where they had outstanding receivers that bailed them out time and again...

These three were quite impressive; if I had my choice, and I don't like my options at No. 11, I try to add a Day 2 pick and move back 5-10 spots...

Believe me, there are teams that want that 11th spot real bad in this draft...

I would love to sit Kelly behind Brees for a year. Payton could get his next qb. cheap.

Seer1 04-01-2017 11:42 AM

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There it is. Thanks for putting it into words JP. I'd rather draft no one at eleven than any of the quarterbacks out there. Turn it into more picks further back instead.

hagan714 04-01-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 743433)
There it is. Thanks for putting it into words JP. I'd rather draft no one at eleven than any of the quarterbacks out there. Turn it into more picks further back instead.

I am hoping all the QBs are on the board at 11 and the saints phones are ringing with those crazy over priced trade offers to get to the first QB on their board before Cleveland picks.

Great black mail stuff. A simple flip of picks with the Browns could change the enter draft for the saints at those over valued prices.

swap seconds. 33 end of day 1 and pick 33 at the start of day 2. by all odds would be huge.
gotta get pick 145 round 5 to start off day 3
and whatever else we can milk out of them.

jeanpierre 04-01-2017 03:21 PM

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Okay, I'm really warming to the idea that McCaffrey could be our Shady (Lesean McCoy), so I ran with it...

Pick No. 011 (R1, P11) RB Christian McCaffrey, Stanford

Pick No. 032 (R1, P32) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan

Pick No. 042 (R2, P10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin

Pick No. 076 (R3, P12) CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado

Pick No. 103 (R3, P39) WR Chad Hansen, California

Pick No. 196 (R6, P12) LB Jordan Evans, Oklahoma

Pick No. 229 (R7, P11) QB Chad Kelly, Ole Miss

I'd be very, very happy with this haul; but it was a fluke McDowell fell all the way to 32...

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hagan714 04-01-2017 04:34 PM

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Is the arthritis in the shoulder that big of an issue?
11: R1P11
DL JONATHAN ALLEN ALABAMA

Ya'll know I love the way he plays. DE day 1
32: R1P32
EDGE T.J. WATT WISCONSIN

Solid all around CB that has plenty of upside. tackler
42: R2P10
CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA

Ball hawking tackler
76: R3P12
S MARCUS WILLIAMS UTAH

Poor man OJ Howard. excellent blocker and attitude
103: R3P39
TE GEORGE KITTLE IOWA

Athletic cover LB
196: R6P12
LB JORDAN EVANS OKLAHOMA

Depth upgrade pick. Motor man
229: R7P11
EDGE KEIONTA DAVIS CHATTANOOGA

jeanpierre 04-02-2017 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 743460)
Is the arthritis in the shoulder that big of an issue?
11: R1P11
DL JONATHAN ALLEN ALABAMA

Ya'll know I love the way he plays. DE day 1
32: R1P32
EDGE T.J. WATT WISCONSIN

Solid all around CB that has plenty of upside. tackler
42: R2P10
CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA

Ball hawking tackler
76: R3P12
S MARCUS WILLIAMS UTAH

Poor man OJ Howard. excellent blocker and attitude
103: R3P39
TE GEORGE KITTLE IOWA

Athletic cover LB
196: R6P12
LB JORDAN EVANS OKLAHOMA

Depth upgrade pick. Motor man
229: R7P11
EDGE KEIONTA DAVIS CHATTANOOGA

I'm starting to believe Allen could fall like Bama's D-linemen fell last year; great player, but the arthritis thing is a bit worrisome...

Players have got to be available as Payton says...

Really like Watt, but I'm starting to see how he could be a reach for some teams in the first round...

He's projected for right where we'll be in the second round, and I'd love him as a linebacker to compete with Ellerbe...

Watt, Moreau and Evans are among my favorites for this draft...

See Kittle as a fourth, fifth round pick, but you're right that teams may reach late in the third as they're not alot of good TEs in the league right now...

jeanpierre 04-02-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 743411)
...Just for fun a few trades

...Round 2 Pick 24 (OAK): Obi Melifonwu, SS, Connecticut (B)
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (B-)
Round 2 Pick 32 (CAR): Fabian Moreau, CB/FS, UCLA (B+)
Round 3 Pick 12: Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 3 Pick 24 (OAK): Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 39 (COMP): Davis Webb, QB, California (A-)...

Obi-wan may go in the first round...

Jones is no higher than a third round pick with a busted achilles...

Moreau is hard to gauge right now; but I still see him the first 50 picks...

Really hope we don't take Mixon; girl he punched may be questionable, but he still suckerpunched a girl...

Kupp is gonna be a good one, but I like Chad Hansen of Cal better...

I'd be shocked if Davis Webb is still on the board when Round 3 starts...

lee909 04-02-2017 12:54 PM

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That was purely what was there and for fun. Some of the players rounds are way off.

Trubisky went in the second.

jeanpierre 04-02-2017 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 743509)
That was purely what was there and for fun. Some of the players rounds are way off.

Trubisky went in the second.

Yeah, it's not a fool proof simulator, but you get an idea that as certain players come off the board, what could transpire...

hagan714 04-02-2017 04:52 PM

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11: R1P11
TE O.J. HOWARD ALABAMA

32: R1P32
RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY STANFORD

42: R2P10
CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA

76: R3P12
S MARCUS WILLIAMS UTAH

103: R3P39
EDGE TREY HENDRICKSON FLORIDA ATLANTIC

196: R6P12
EDGE HUNTER DIMICK UTAH

229: R7P11
LB JIMMIE GILBERT COLORADO

ChrisXVI 04-02-2017 06:23 PM

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R1P11 LB REUBEN FOSTER ALABAMA

R1P32 CB TRE'DAVIOUS WHITE LSU

R2P10 EDGE JORDAN WILLIS KANSAS STATE

R3P12 EDGE DEREK RIVERS YOUNGSTOWN STATE

R3P39 RB T.J. LOGAN NORTH CAROLINA

R6P12 WR KENNY GOLLADAY NORTHERN ILLINOIS

R7P11 S DELANO HILL MICHIGAN

jeanpierre 04-02-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 743538)
R1P11 LB REUBEN FOSTER ALABAMA

R1P32 CB TRE'DAVIOUS WHITE LSU

R2P10 EDGE JORDAN WILLIS KANSAS STATE

R3P12 EDGE DEREK RIVERS YOUNGSTOWN STATE

R3P39 RB T.J. LOGAN NORTH CAROLINA

R6P12 WR KENNY GOLLADAY NORTHERN ILLINOIS

R7P11 S DELANO HILL MICHIGAN

Trying to say something with those first four picks?

jjasso007 04-05-2017 02:11 PM

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Just ran a new mock...

Round 1, Pick 11: Derek Barnett - DE
- With his production in college, and readiness for the NFL, should give us a solid, young DL able to put pressure ad get sacks for many seasons

R1, P32: Tre'Davious White - CB
- Overall top ranked CB in 2016 by PFF. Can play inside or outside, and can also return kicks. Good production

R2, P10: Joe Mixon - RB
- Controversial pick with his history, but the fact he came in for a private visit, when we have a history of avoiding such players, indicates he's a prospect that we may not want to overlook. Productive as a runner and receiver, and arguably to three in the nation

R 3, P12: Cooper Kupp - WR
- Some more young blood for our young WR corps. May be the best route runner in the country, but from a smaller school. Shined at the Senior Bowl. Rarely drops a pass, with good height at 6'2.

R3, P39: Teez Tabor - CB
- PFF has him ranked as the 3rd best CB, and has allowed a passer rating of 41.2 over the last three seasons. For reference, the passer rating for throwing the ball into the dirt every play is 39.6... again, that rating for the last three seasons. #TaborIsland
https://www.profootballfocus.com/dra...or-cb-florida/

R6, P12: Lorenzo Jerome - S
- small school safety with ballhawking skills. Put this on display at the Senior Bowl where he had two interceptions and a forced fumble in the game

R7, P11:Eric Saubert - TE
- discussed Saubert before. Had a great East-West Shrine week. Had some drops in his career but also made great plays. High reward TE for the 7th round

jeanpierre 04-08-2017 10:15 AM

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Utah_Saint 04-08-2017 11:49 AM

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Which Big Boards and Team Needs do you guys use?

Seems to make a big difference.

hagan714 04-08-2017 04:54 PM

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cbs for me

team needs fans list

jeanpierre 04-08-2017 09:46 PM

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17: R1P17
RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY
STANFORD

McCaffrey would be like adding Nitrous to this offense (perhaps what Payton envisioned Reggie Bush); as bad as this defense needs the talent, McCaffrey's skills would allow the Saints to improve time of possession - thereby helping the defense...

32: R1P32
DL MALIK MCDOWELL
MICHIGAN STATE

Doubt he falls like this, but if McDowell were there, he's be the perfect complement to Cam Jordan; he rarely loses 1:1 and putting him out on the end, with his length, range and athletcism would be the final piece on the vice to squeeze the life out of opposing passers...

42: R2P10
CB FABIAN MOREAU
UCLA

He effortlessly runs with receivers, mirroring their routes as well as the receivers know them themselves; he'd be the perfect insurance policy to either of our starting CBs and will be an All-Pro before long...

49: R2P17
S MARCUS WILLIAMS
UTAH

While I prefer more physical safeties like Josh Johnson; I want a safety with length who will always be their in the backstop to have a chance at making a play, and Williams has ability to do just that...

76: R3P12
WR CHAD HANSEN
CALIFORNIA

This is the next great steal at WR for the Saints; go, watch his tape; if you thought Kupp was something, check this guy out; ridiculous catches and has already worked in a pro system with Davis Webb...

103: R3P39
EDGE TREY HENDRICKSON
FLORIDA ATLANTIC

This is a Bill Parcells/Sean Payton football player if ever there was one; he already may be better that Paul Kruger was at this stage of his career; great interview, positive personality, loves football, and shows the initiative it takes to be great in the NFL...

196: R6P12
LB JORDAN EVANS
OKLAHOMA

I really don't believe Evans last past the end of the third round because he does something most LBs can't do - he can cover RBs, WRs, and TEs; Pro Combine snub who ran off fantastic sprints and shuttles at his pro-day to prove he belongs...

229: R7P11
G COREY LEVIN
CHATTANOOGA

Late Bloomer, Diamond in the rough; I wouldn't take a chance of letting this kid become a UDRFA; He could be starting by year 2...

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 11
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 17
ROUND: 2 PICK: 17

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jeanpierre 04-11-2017 03:59 PM

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This is d*mn near close to the draft I'd like to see for the Saints...

No. 001 (R1, P11) RB CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY, STANFORD

Class act, smart, athletic, good blood lines, WINNER, LEADER and would be a great prescence in the huddle to transition from Brees to (x) someday; then there's the fact he's an athletic freak and your modern day half back who can run, catch; as I've said before, he'd be like Nitrous in this offense...

No. 032 (R1, P32) LB/DE T.J. WATT, WISCONSIN

The more games I'm able to go back and watch, especially in chronology, you can really see his game progress; huge ceiling; he's an absolute playmaker in the flat; good bloodlines, but he's earned his own keep and will continue to get better; versatile and athletic, former tight end...

No. 042 (R2, P10) CB KEVIN KING, WASHINGTON

Payton has talked a lot about length and being able to play press and run with bigger receivers like those in our division (e.g. Julio Jones, Mike Evans, Greg Olsen/Kelvin Benjamin) and this kid has done it quietly while Syd Jones got the spot light; previously I had Moreau here, and I'd be happy with either one...

No. 076 (R3, P12) TE ADAM SHAHEEN, ASHLAND

This kid is basically Jimmy Graham, big running jumping deer, but he's bigger and can aid in blocking as well; he physically is everything you'd want in a TE; both the most important aspect about him is that when he realize he'd reached a ceiling in basketball, he regroup and developed himself into a top NFL TE prospect pretty much on his own drive, initiative and put his school on the map when no bigger programs (Ohio State) wanted him and now regret it; and if he'd played for the Buckeyes, his name would be right there with the kid from 'Bama...

No. 103 (R3, P39) WR CHAD HANSEN, CALIFORNIA

I really like this kid's game and he's an absolute perfect complementary wide receiver to what we do; and should we have a brief injury with Can'tGuardMike, this kid has the money hands, speeds, and subtle route running to take over in a game. Check his film and i'll become evident almost immediately...

No. 196 (R6, P12) QB CHAD KELLY, MISSISSIPPI

Okay, besides Brett Favre, can you name another quarterback that beat Bama and Auburn in the same year? He has the strongest arm in the class; he may be a bit thick in the head, but he's got bloodlines and game to boot; perhaps taking him here will give him the humble pie he needs to start anew; and his arrest was for defending a family member in a post-game melee, not punching a woman.

No. 229 (R7, P11) LB JORDAN EVANS, OKLAHOMA

This kid can run and cover, but he does need some work on scheme, reads, etc, but that's okay as he'd be able to contribute and have an impact on special teams immediately and develop behind Klein...

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premi...t.php?d=lwqiwe

There are six other players I really like in this draft...

LB Reuben Foster, Bama - After the Klein signing, I backed off some; and then there were reports he was just okay in reads in meetings with teams; plus, I'm concerned about his medicals long-term without a 3rd party exam after the "Do You Know Who I Am?" flap...

DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St - I'd abso-freakin-lutley love to line McDowell at an End opposite Jordan; he should have been at the DE spot but played NT for the team; he's nearly unstoppable 1:1 and would be the perfect guy to throw into our DL mix...

CB Fabian Moreau, UCLA - Breaux and Moreau, can just hear it now; most impressive CB running with WRs in the draft; the former RB almost knows what the WR are going to do before they know what they're going to do; he looks like the epitome of tight man coverage...

OT Ryan Ramcyzk, Wisconsin - I'm a sucker for self-starter, own initiative types and Ramcyzk is probably the best former walk-on to be in the NFL draft in the last ten-plus years; he's an absolute monster and I'd even go so far as that if we drafted him and traded Armstead, I'd be alright with it...

OG Dan Feeney, Indiana - Gotta love a big, burly nasty guard who can intimidate defensive linemen; it won't take long for Feeney to make the ProBowl, or All-Pro for that matter; Boilles and Lampman are getting the air time, but Feeney will be the best of this guard group...

DL Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA - He's been on the bad end of a freak injury during a celebration and his recovery has been hampered by poor conditioning; sure wished he could have committed or played for better programs than Notre Dame or UCLA; but this guy is an absolute monster who could dominate like Ndamukong Suh in the NFL with proper coaching, conditioning...

jeanpierre 04-13-2017 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 744118)
Which Big Boards and Team Needs do you guys use?

Seems to make a big difference.

Alternate between Fanspeak and CBS

Fanspeak Team Needs

jeanpierre 04-13-2017 09:27 PM

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My favorite receiver prospect in this draft; some good Davis Webb footage lagniappe ...


jeanpierre 04-16-2017 09:38 AM

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My favorite TE prospect in this draft class; Big, Nasty, Fast, High Ceiling; and you can see he's just realizing what he's capable of doing...


jeanpierre 04-17-2017 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 743460)
Is the arthritis in the shoulder that big of an issue?
11: R1P11
DL JONATHAN ALLEN ALABAMA

Even if he can play through it, would he still be 100%?

lee909 04-17-2017 09:32 AM

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Bit of unrealistoc fun with First Pick

I'd be very happy though lol


Round 1 Pick 17 (WASH): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU
Round 1 Pick 32: Zach Cunningham, OLB/ILB, Vanderbilt
Round 2 Pick 10: Budda Baker, FS, Washington
Round 2 Pick 21 (DET): T.J. Watt, OLB, Wisconsin
Round 2 Pick 25 (HOU): Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State
Round 3 Pick 21 (DET): Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
Round 3 Pick 39 (COMP): Davis Webb, QB, California
Round 4 Pick 21 (DET): Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky
Round 6 Pick 12: Tarik Cohen, RB, North Carolina A&T
Round 7 Pick 11: Jerry Ugokwe, OT, William & Mary

lee909 04-17-2017 09:35 AM

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Tarik Cohen looks a interesting late rounder

TARIK COHEN
NORTH CAROLINA A&T MEAC

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.49

40 Yards
4.42 SEC

Bench
11 REPS

Vert
31.5 INCH

Broad
118.0 INCH

5'6"
HEIGHT

29 3/4"
ARM LENGTH

179LBS.
WEIGHT

10 1/8"
HANDS

OVERVIEW
While only a bit over 5-foot-6 and 175 pounds, Cohen was one of the most productive running backs at the FCS level the past four seasons. The MEAC's all-time leading rusher (5,619 yards) and first three-time conference Offensive Player of the Year was an All-American in 2016, setting a school record with 1,588 yards and 19 touchdowns on 212 carries (37-339, one TD receiving). Cohen was a third-team All-American as a junior (264-1,543, 15 TD rushing; 25-217 receiving) and led the MEAC in scoring as well as rushing in 2014 (197-1,340, 15 TD rushing; 25-237, one TD receiving). Though he started only six games as a freshman, Cohen managed to run for 1,148 yards and eight scores on 195 attempts (11-152, one TD receiving).

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Nicknamed "The Human Joystick" for his ability to make seemingly impossible cuts. Plays with unpredictable movements. Can turn any play into a random game of "connect the dots." Rare ability to stop and start. Cuts are just as seamless and sharp from any direction. Field vision is excellent. Has lateral escapability to put would-be tacklers on his highlight tapes. Gifted with unusually large hands and a powerful lower body that enhances his contact balance and ability to drive for extra yardage. Very good acceleration pulls him away from tacklers and into the clear. Relentless competitor. Had four touchdown runs of 83-plus yards this season. A true weapon out of the backfield that will be tough to matchup with. Has good hands and is very slippery in space.

WEAKNESSES
Falls below the size standards expected from the position. Overwhelmed slower and less talented competition. Benefitted from heinous angles to the ball from tacklers he faced. Way too eager to take plays off script. Wants to swing for the fences on every snap and will have to learn when to hit singles. Too eager to bounce everything. Takes his share of negative yardage carries. Feet are electric, but footwork and run track on zone plays needs work. Takes big hits from big men when trying to fight out of tackles and squeeze out extra yards. Stature and short arms make him a tougher target for quarterbacks. Has almost no experience as a punt or kick returner on special teams.

NFL COMPARISON Darren Sproles

BOTTOM LINE
Cohen uses a bounding, bouncing approach to the line of scrimmage reminiscent of Le'Veon Bell, but he's far less likely to finish downhill and instead looks to break it wide and out-race defenders. He's an electric playmaker who needs touches, but he's too small and unpredictable to handle much of an NFL carry count. Cohen gets easy separation as a receiver out of the backfield or from the slot and he will likely be used as an updated version of Darren Sproles 2.0.



Seer1 04-17-2017 09:51 AM

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Meh...

ChrisXVI 04-19-2017 07:17 PM

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Almost one week to go!

R1P11 EDGE TACO CHARLTON MICHIGAN

R1P32 *Traded to Patriots for CB Malcolm Butler

R2P10 LB ZACH CUNNINGHAM VANDERBILT

R3P12 WR/RB CURTIS SAMUEL OHIO STATE

R3P39 TE ADAM SHAHEEN ASHLAND

R6P12 WR KENNY GOLLADAY NORTHERN ILLINOIS

R7P11 S DELANO HILL MICHIGAN

jeanpierre 04-22-2017 12:30 PM

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Chris, you think Cunningham can play at top speed when he has to add the weight to play in the NFL?

jeanpierre 04-23-2017 11:25 AM

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Pick No. 11 (R1, P11) RB Christian McCaffrey, Stanford

This is the guy with elite speed/elusiveness who will extend drives for the Saints offense, essentially putting it on Nitrous; he's the player that has been missing in those years with No Bush, No Sproles; multi-faceted contributor in the return game which immediately addresses those needs as well; great complement, change of pace to Ingram's bowling ball style; team player, leader, with plus, plus personal character traits; and when the day comes for a new QB, he'll be the calming transition leadership in that huddle...

Pick No. 32 (R1, P32) DE Malik McDowell, Michigan State

Really, really hope we keep this pick (and I got a growing suspicion our 2018 1st round pick may be dealt), because if McDowell falls, it'll be lightning striking twice because this guy is a Cam Jordan clone; he can play all over the line and was used as a NT out of desperation by Michigan St; he will absolute eat at DE in the NFL and force 1:1 all along the defensive line and a respected base pass rush...

Pick No. 42 (R2, P10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin

I'd take Watt as high as 32; with Okafor in place he can backup at weak side DE or could come in and start at LBer; either way he makes plays - not just sacks, but FF, INT, TFL; he'll bring some smarts and love for the game to that defensive huddle; his progression since transitioning to an edge defender is phenomenal. Don't pass on this guy with 32 or 42!

Pick No. 76 (R3, P12) OT Will Holden, Vanderbilt

OT is shallow in this class, but this big hulk is Zach Strief, in fact, I'd take him here not just because it's a shallow class, but he's further along at this point than Zach was as a rookie; he could spell Zach by mid-season and is a very secure long term plan at RT...

Pick No. 103 (R3, P39) WR Chad Hansen, California

Sure hands. Sneaky second gear. Elite Catch Radius. Advanced route running experience. Lethal complement opposite Can't Guard Mike. And he could provide depth at the X-receiver. While everyone's looking the other way, Hansen will make 'em pay...

Pick No. 196 (R6, P12) QB Chad Kelly, Ole Miss

Have followed Kelly as an SEC fan; really believe a Payton/Brees locker room is what this kid needs to mature and develop as a leader on the football field; he's got a bionic arm; he's showed real moxie in beating Bama and Auburn in the same season like this guy that played at So. Miss, drafted by the Falcons, traded to Green Bay; perfect low risk, high reward candidate for the next three seasons behind Brees...

Pick No. 229 (R7, P11) G Corey Levin, Chattanooga (TN)

While he was a standout since his Freshman year, Levin has the smarts, athleticism, and physicality to develop into a starting Left Guard and spot starter at Left Tackle; we've got to continue to develop the depth and this kid is what the doc prescribes...

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lee909 04-24-2017 07:58 AM

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Latest from Jeff Duncan
Seems a bit high for the Tackle but then with no middle rounds oicks i guess you gotta reach

Dont mind the idea of trading back for Conley. Could gain a minimum mid round third going back to 16 maybe more.

Round 1 (No. 11 overall): CB Gareon Conley, Ohio State
Because the edge rusher they prefer probably won’t be there at No. 11, I believe the Saints will investigate trading down into the high teens or early 20s and acquiring extra draft picks. If they stay put, Conley is one of the safest players in the draft. A likely starter from Day One, he possesses the size/speed ratio defensive coordinator Dennis Allen prefers in his cornerbacks. In this scenario, I see the Saints waiting until No. 32 or 42 to address their need for a pass rusher.



Round 1 (No. 32): DE Taco Charlton, Michigan
After taking Conley early, the Saints will then look to the handful of edge rushers graded in the late first-, early second-round zone. Charles Harris, Takk McKinley, T.J. Watt, Jordan Willis and Taco Charlton all make sense here. The Cowboys, Lions, Eagles and Rams could all be in the market for an edge rusher, too, so it's likely one or two of these guys will be off the board by No. 32. The Saints also could trade out of the spot if one of the top QB prospects falls and a quarterback-needy team makes the Saints an offer they can't refuse. As is, I'll slot Charlton to the Saints here because I think Harris, Watt and McKinely will be off the board. Charlton is an intriguing prospect with the size and power to be an every-down starter at left end. His best football is ahead of him.



Curtis Samuel
Round 2 (No. 42): RB Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
After addressing the team’s most pressing defensive needs in Round 1, I could see the Saints pulling the trigger on a perimeter playmaker here. Samuel is basically Christian McCaffrey Lite, a jack-of-all-trades capable of playing almost anywhere on offense. Samuel has been compared to Percy Harvin and would help replace Brandin Cooks’ big-play ability in the Saints’ offensive arsenal.




Round 3 (76): FS Eddie Jackson, Alabama
Safety is a sneaky need for the Saints. Jairus Byrd is gone, and Kenny Vaccaro will be a free agent after this season. The secondary could use a young free safety as insurance in case Vaccaro isn't re-signed. Jackson is a former cornerback who developed into the quarterback of the Alabama defense from his spot in center field. He has terrific ball skills and is comfortable in the single-high safety role. The Saints like players with leadership traits and Jackson is a former team captain for the Crimson Tide.




Round 3 (103): OT Antonio Garcia, Troy
Like safety, tackle is another position where the Saints need depth. Garcia is a developmental prospect who can take the time to learn behind Saints veterans Terron Armstead and Zach Strief. Garcia played in a quick-strike, spread offense at Troy so he'll need time to adjust to a traditional NFL offense. He could be the heir apparent to Strief at right tackle.




Round 6 (196): WR Stacey Coley, Miami
Late in the draft, NFL teams looks for players with one redeeming quality. Coley has one: 4.3 speed to take the top off the defense. Ted Ginn Jr. will man the Devery Henderson-Robert Meachem role in the Saints offense in the short-term but Coley is a nice future option. Coley has been compared to former Hurricanes receiver Philip Dorsett, a favorite of Sean Payton in the 2015 draft.



Round 7 (229): CB Marquez White, Florida State
You can never have enough cornerbacks and White has the size and cover skills to be a solid gamble at this stage. He played in a press coverage scheme at Florida State and has the athletic ability to be a solid contributor on special teams.

jeanpierre 04-27-2017 02:07 PM

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Duncan's mocks scare me because sometimes he's got inside knowledge...

Even before the Conley scandal, I wan't sold on him as a first round pick...

jeanpierre 04-27-2017 05:24 PM

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Has anybody ran the Fanspeak simulator lately...

I'm always amazed how much players' stocks change in the last month before the draft...

Gives a whole level more of understanding the pro game...

lee909 04-27-2017 05:26 PM

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Loomis on @WWLAMFM on if Saints will use picks 11 & 32: "I think it’s better than 50-50 but I certainly wouldn’t say it’s 100 percent."

lee909 04-27-2017 05:33 PM

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Last one for me

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11: R1P11
CB MARSHON LATTIMORE
OHIO STATE

32: R1P32
EDGE TACO CHARLTON
MICHIGAN

42: R2P10
CB TRE'DAVIOUS WHITE
LSU

76: R3P12
TE ADAM SHAHEEN
ASHLAND


103: R3P39

S EDDIE JACKSON
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS


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