Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator

jeanpierre · 03-27-2017, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Obi Melifonwu - S

was billed and he made his pay day at the draft. I had some doubts to all the numbers hype before the draft but he shut me up. He either is one of those guys that just looks to play slower than he does or he does play slower than he clocks.

Brings me to my main question he still has not answered. Instincts? This would answer that question about play speed. Is he a read and react type of player? Which is not a bad thing as a safety as long as you believe he has the ability to reduce his reaction response to what he is seeing. This why he played SS so much

I will point out this is one smart kid. He may need to stop thinking so much and learn to trust what he sees.

After watching him him this year in a couple of games I have my doubts. The 5th round label he came in with was silly. I would have not second thought a fifth for a second. A 1/2 guy? that's up to the scouts and coaches. 2/3 guy? i feel pretty good about. Let the front office decide.

I like Kevin King as CB with a future at FS. He came in a SS and spent the last two years at CB. So moving him to FS might not be crazy.

Obi Melifonwu vs Kevin King

32 - Obi Melifonwu
42 - Kevin King

I could accept it. What a huge gamble to make a complete change to the secondary.

Kevin King is my pick. I like his instincts more.

I predict both will be off the board before we pick in round 2. I would slightly surprised to see both gone by pick 32.

Kick in a 3rd on Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR/PR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr

Or add a solid developmental player while rolling the dice on the secondary 6th
Shaquill Griffin CB UCF 6001 194 4.39 #10 Sr

I am really warming up to idea of converting this CB to a FS
Quincy Wilson CB/FS Florida 6012 211 4.54 #6

Hagan, have gotten to watch two games of Obi Melifonwu...

And I can see his appeal - as a Free Safety...

He's got some amazing recovery, can really close ground quick, and tall receivers will no longer have that extra foot of reach to catch jump balls...

Obi looked silky smooth and really is at his best when the field shortens in the red zone...

King is not even on the same planet...

Wouldn't be surprised if Big D takes him even earlier than pick 32...

hagan714 · 03-27-2017, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Hagan, have gotten to watch two games of Obi Melifonwu...

And I can see his appeal - as a Free Safety...

He's got some amazing recovery, can really close ground quick, and tall receivers will no longer have that extra foot of reach to catch jump balls...

Obi looked silky smooth and really is at his best when the field shortens in the red zone...

King is not even on the same planet...

Wouldn't be surprised if Big D takes him even earlier than pick 32...

Oh I see the appeal and totally understand it. It is all about instincts. Like I said in anther thread is the saints went with him I hope they go in 100% with this gamble.

32 Obi Melifonwu FS/SS/OLB UConn 6037 224 4.40 #20 rSr
42 Kevin King CB/FS/SS Washington 6032 200 4.43 #20 Sr

Trade back into 2 with both 3s
Josh Jones SS/FS/LB N.C. State 6013 220 4.41 #11 rJr

Add another CB in 6 and 7

All a gamble but a giddy rated gamble in my book

Imagine

Obi Melifonwu FS
Josh Jones SS
Kenny Vaccaro

CB
Delvin Breaux
Kevin King
Vonn Bell
Sterling Moore
CB in 6 or 7

Can they come back
P.J. Williams
Damian Swann

Saints can go man all game long

K Major · 03-27-2017, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Obi looked silky smooth and really is at his best when the field shortens in the red zone...

King is not even on the same planet...

Wouldn't be surprised if Big D takes him even earlier than pick 32...

Rez brought up this kid's name a few weeks back. Honestly, I had never heard of him. From what you guys have seen of him on tape, he appears to be ready to make an impact at the next level.

Side note - he is a BIG dude.

03-27-2017, 08:13 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by jeanpierre Hagan, have gotten to watch two games of Obi Melifonwu... And I can see his appeal - as a Free Safety... He's got some amazing recovery, can really close ground quick, and tall receivers will no longer have that extra foot of reach to catch jump balls... Obi looked silky smooth and really is at his best when the field shortens in the red zone... King is not even on the same planet... Wouldn't be surprised if Big D takes him even earlier than pick 32... Oh I see the appeal and totally understand it. It is all about instincts. Like I said in anther thread is the saints went with him I hope they go in 100% with this gamble. 32 Obi Melifonwu FS/SS/OLB UConn 6037 224 4.40 #20 rSr 42 Kevin King CB/FS/SS Washington 6032 200 4.43 #20 Sr Trade back into 2 with both 3s Josh Jones SS/FS/LB N.C. State 6013 220 4.41 #11 rJr Add another CB in 6 and 7 All a gamble but a giddy rated gamble in my book Imagine Obi Melifonwu FS Josh Jones SS Kenny Vaccaro CB Delvin Breaux Kevin King Vonn Bell Sterling Moore CB in 6 or 7 Can they come back P.J. Williams Damian Swann Saints can go man all game long
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by jeanpierre Obi looked silky smooth and really is at his best when the field shortens in the red zone... King is not even on the same planet... Wouldn't be surprised if Big D takes him even earlier than pick 32... Rez brought up this kid's name a few weeks back. Honestly, I had never heard of him. From what you guys have seen of him on tape, he appears to be ready to make an impact at the next level. Side note - he is a BIG dude. hagan714 likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Fanspeak 2017 NFL Draft Simulator Originally Posted by hagan714 Obi Melifonwu - S was billed and he made his pay day at the draft. I had some doubts to all the numbers hype before the draft but he shut me up. He either is one of those guys that just looks to play slower than he does or he does play slower than he clocks. Brings me to my main question he still has not answered. Instincts? This would answer that question about play speed. Is he a read and react type of player? Which is not a bad thing as a safety as long as you believe he has the ability to reduce his reaction response to what he is seeing. This why he played SS so much I will point out this is one smart kid. He may need to stop thinking so much and learn to trust what he sees. After watching him him this year in a couple of games I have my doubts. The 5th round label he came in with was silly. I would have not second thought a fifth for a second. A 1/2 guy? that's up to the scouts and coaches. 2/3 guy? i feel pretty good about. Let the front office decide. I like Kevin King as CB with a future at FS. He came in a SS and spent the last two years at CB. So moving him to FS might not be crazy. Obi Melifonwu vs Kevin King 32 - Obi Melifonwu 42 - Kevin King I could accept it. What a huge gamble to make a complete change to the secondary. Kevin King is my pick. I like his instincts more. I predict both will be off the board before we pick in round 2. I would slightly surprised to see both gone by pick 32. Kick in a 3rd on Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR/PR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr Or add a solid developmental player while rolling the dice on the secondary 6th Shaquill Griffin CB UCF 6001 194 4.39 #10 Sr I am really warming up to idea of converting this CB to a FS Quincy Wilson CB/FS Florida 6012 211 4.54 #6 Hagan, have gotten to watch two games of Obi Melifonwu... And I can see his appeal - as a Free Safety... He's got some amazing recovery, can really close ground quick, and tall receivers will no longer have that extra foot of reach to catch jump balls... Obi looked silky smooth and really is at his best when the field shortens in the red zone... King is not even on the same planet... Wouldn't be surprised if Big D takes him even earlier than pick 32... hagan714 and K Major like this.