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Make no mistake, NO Saints are also scouting CB Jeremy Cutrer, a late-blooming CB with excellent length who picks up scheme very, very quickly...
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Smart Kid, Has Some Pretty Good Film, could be a great change of pace back...
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6' 1" and 188 lbs... speed would be a concern though (4.60). |
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My problem with specialized players is that creative OC can probe on a play or two to get a feel for a team's scheme and find a way to flip an assignment, create a mismatch (i.e. fmr Saints Brandin Cooks vs Raiders Sean Smith)... I'd really like to draft Fabian Moreau, who's got length, weight and speed... |
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2017 NFL Draft: Pro day schedule, by date
This year's pro days are listed below by date. Check back for results. NOTE: All times shown in ET. March 20 » Azusa Pacific: 4 p.m. » Bowling Green: Noon » Central Michigan: 10 a.m. » Hawaii: 6 p.m. » Merrimack: 9:15 a.m. » North Carolina Central: 1 p.m. » North Carolina State: 8 a.m. (SS Josh Jones) » Syracuse: Noon » Toledo: 8 a.m. March 21 » Grambling State: 10 a.m. » Louisiana-Monroe: 9 a.m. » Louisiana Tech: 2 p.m. FS Xavier Woods » North Carolina: 9 a.m. » North Carolina A&T: 2 p.m. » South Florida: 1 p.m. » Troy: 11 a.m. » Tusculum: 9 a.m. » UCLA: 1 p.m. (CB Fabian Moreau, NT Eddie Vanderdoes) March 22 » Ashland: 9 a.m. (TE Adam Shaheen) » Central Florida: 1 p.m. » Cincinnati: 8:30 a.m. » Connecticut: 8 a.m. » Duke: 1 p.m. » Duquesne: 7 a.m. » Elizabeth City State: 1 p.m. » Fresno State: 2:30 p.m. » Massachusetts: 11 a.m. » Michigan State: 9 a.m. » Mississippi State: 9:30 a.m. » Missouri State: 10 a.m. » Northwestern State (La.): 9 a.m. » Pittsburgh: 10 a.m. » USC: Noon » Weber State: 4:30 p.m. March 23 » Bethune-Cookman: 10 a.m. » East Carolina: TBA » Eastern Michigan: 10 a.m. » Eastern Washington: Noon (WR Cooper Kupp) » Florida Tech: 9 a.m. » Jackson State: 11 a.m. » Lamar: 11 a.m. » Missouri: 10:30 a.m. » Notre Dame: 11 a.m. » Ohio State: 11 a.m. (CB Marshon Lattimore) » San Diego: 5 p.m. » San Diego State: 1:15 p.m. » Slippery Rock: 8:30 a.m. » Stanford: TBA (RB Christian McCaffery) » Tennessee-Martin: 11 a.m. » Utah: 10 a.m. March 24 » Akron: 8 a.m. » Arizona: 12:30 p.m. » BYU: 10:30 a.m. » Cal: TBA » Kent State: 2 p.m. » Memphis: Noon » Michigan: 9 a.m. » Missouri Western: 11 a.m. » Utah State: 10 a.m. March 27 » Appalachian State: 9 a.m. » Cal Poly: 11:30 a.m. » Houston: 3 p.m. » Monmouth: 10 a.m. » Morgan State: 9 a.m. » Rice: 9:30 a.m. » Villanova: 9 a.m. March 28 » Florida: 9 a.m. » Florida A&M: 1:30 p.m. » Florida State: 8:30 a.m. » Iowa State: 1:30 p.m. » Miami (Ohio): 8 a.m. » Stony Brook: 8:30 a.m. » Texas: 9:15 a.m. » Texas State: 4 p.m. » UNLV: 1:30 p.m. March 29 » Bowie State: 1:30 p.m. » Florida International: 2:15 p.m. » Fordham: 9 a.m. » Illinois State: Noon » Indiana State: 9 a.m. » Maryland: 8 a.m. » Miami (Fla.): 8 a.m. » Navy: 4:15 p.m. » North Dakota State: 4 p.m. » Ohio: 1:30 p.m. (DE Tarell Basham) » SMU: 9 a.m. » South Dakota: 9 a.m. » South Dakota State: 10 a.m. » Southern Utah: Noon » Stephen F. Austin: 4 p.m. » Texas A&M: TBA March 30 » Ball State: 11:30 a.m. » Boise State: 12:30 p.m. » California (Pa.): 10 a.m. » Chattanooga: 10 a.m. (G Corey Levin) » Citadel: 9:30 a.m. » Dartmouth: 12:30 p.m. » Georgia Southern: 2 p.m. » Florida Atlantic: 9: a.m. (DE Trey Hendrickson) » Louisville: 2:30 p.m. » North Texas: 3 p.m. » Prairie View A&M: 11 a.m. » Sam Houston State: 11 a.m. » Western Illinois: 11 a.m. » Yale: 10 a.m. March 31 » Indiana: TBA » Jacksonville: 10 a.m. » Tennessee: 9 a.m. » West Virginia: 8:30 a.m. » Western Kentucky: 9:30 a.m. (G Forrest Lamp) April 3 » Mississippi: 10:45 a.m. April 4 » South Alabama: 10 a.m. » Southern Mississippi: 3 p.m. April 5 » Baylor: 9 a.m. » Gardner-Webb: 9 a.m. » LSU: TBA (CB Tre' White) » Southern University: 4 p.m. April 6 » Louisiana-Lafayette: 3 p.m. (RB Elijah McGuire) » Texas A&M-Commerce: 11 a.m. April 7 » Portland State: 3 p.m. » TCU: 10 a.m. » Tulane: 11 a.m. Source: 2017 NFL Draft: Pro day schedule and results, by date - NFL.com |
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Don't think there aren't good corner backs in the mid-rounds - this is a deep class with plenty of options for a No. 2 CB, depth...
Absolutely asinine to spend top 10 CB money on a No. 2 CB, much less trade away a Day 1 or Day 2 pick... |
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Solid Running Back, but if we're gonna draft one in the third round, I'd take Marlon Mack...
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Wow, rookie D-line coach taking the lead...
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5.5 40 4,62 SEC bench 18 REPS vert 36,5 INCH Top Performer 119,0 INCH 5'10" HEIGHT 31 3/8" ARM LENGTH 216LBS. WEIGHT 9 5/8" HANDS OVERVIEW Hunt's 2015 season was one to forget. He was suspended the first two games for violating team rules, then struggled with hamstring and ankle injuries during the course of the year. Somehow, he still covered 973 yards and scored 12 times on 178 carries in just nine games, garnering second-team All-MAC notice. Expectations were high going into that season, however, because he led the MAC in rushing as a sophomore in 2014 (1,631) despite missing three games with an ankle injury. Hunt finished third in the nation with 163 rush yards per game and ended the year with a 271-yard, five-touchdown effort against Arkansas State in the GoDaddy.com Bowl. The first-team All-State pick from Ohio (2,685 yards, 44 TD as a senior) received a fair amount of playing time as a freshman, accumulating 866 yards and six scores. Hunt finished his Toledo career on a high note, garnering first-team All-MAC honors for the second time, rushing for 1,475 yards and ten touchdowns while also racking up 41 catches for 403 yards and a score (all receiving numbers bettered his totals in his first three seasons combined.) ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Compact body with broad frame and muscular legs. Above-average agility for his size. Has hips and feet to elude darting defenders in backfield. Uses effective jump-cut to avoid the sludge and shift to the open gap. Runs with good vision and overall instincts. Presses the line before making back-side cuts. Conforms his run to changing space within running lane. Spin moves are effective against first-look tacklers on second level. Suddenly shifts to bounce an inside run to the perimeter. Strings moves together on outside zone plays. Runs with knee bend and forward lean. Adequate pass catcher for screens and check-downs. WEAKNESSES Can elude initial tackle but struggles to accelerate after redirecting his feet. Average explosion traits. Marginal downhill burst through line of scrimmage. Inconsistent inside runner. Gets too cute in the hole when run comes to a close. Looks to spin rather than finish with authority. Needs to run to his size more consistently. Premature in breaking off play-side runs in outside zone. He might not trust his play speed. Slight gear-down into downhill cuts. Could struggle to find chunk runs on next level. Chip "leans" rather than chip blocks allowing open rib shots to go unclaimed. NFL COMPARISON Olandis Gary BOTTOM LINE Big back with plus vision and enough elusiveness to make the first defender miss. Feel for the rushing lane helps him choose the correct path between the tackles but lacks the burst to turn the 4-yard run into 14. Zone-scheme runner with serviceable hands out of the backfield. Adequate in most areas and has talent to become a backup that can step in and handle a bigger load if needed |
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T.J. Logan - RB - Tar Heels
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline passes along that North Carolina RB T.J. Logan "looked terrific in ball-carrying drills" during pro day on Tuesday. Pauline writes that Logan "display[ed] quick feet and a smooth change of direction, adding that the 5-foot-9, 196-pounder "also caught the ball very well." During Combine drills, Logan came away with the fastest 40-yard dash time of any running back in Indianapolis, acing the sprint in 4.37 seconds. ESPN's Mel Kiper believes that this strong work might boost him all the way to a Day 2 selection. The analyst viewed him as a late Day 3 pick prior to the Combine. |
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Josh Jones - DB - Wolfpack
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline passes along that NC State DB Josh Jones "looked terrific" during drills on pro day. Pauline is sky-high on Jones as one of the sleeper corners in the draft, writing earlier in March that "it wouldn't be crazy for some team to take him late in the first round." One team that would fit that bill of an intrigued late-round player would be the Patriots, whom Pauline notes "met extensively" with Jones the night before his pro day. The 6-foot-1, 220-pounder also met with the Chargers. |
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Troy Hawthorne - DB - Rebels
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline notes that while UNLV S Troy Hawthorne was deemed undraftable by scouts prior to the season, he "stands out on film." "Hawthorne looks like a missile the way he streaks to the plays and lays it on the line defending the run," Pauline wrote. "He’s a little one-dimensional as a downhill, run-defending safety, but if he does well on special teams Hawthorne will have a chance at a roster spot." The 6-foot-3, 215-pound Hawthorne, a converted quarterback, went from practice team player to one of the Rebels’ best defenders after the shift. |
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Florida CB Teez Tabor went through a private workout for the Saints and Cardinals on Monday, according to Rotoworld's Josh Norris.
Florida's pro day is scheduled for May 28, and Tabor might participate more than other Combine corners in the hopes of improving his results. Tabor offers 32-plus inch arms, understanding of zone coverage and an aggressive mentality when attacking the run. |
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Jeremy McNichols - RB - Broncos
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline believes Boise State RB Jeremy McNichols is "going to be a very good rotational back at the next level." "He’s a multi-cut ball carrier with the quickness and footwork to create yardage and is also a terrific pass catcher out of the backfield," Pauline wrote. "McNichols will likely be selected on the final day of the draft and develop into a productive third-down back." McNichols entered the process with big questions regarding his size, athleticism and durability. He answered the athleticism bit at the NFL Combine by posting a 4.49-second 40-yard dash and leaps of 35.5 inches (vertical) and 121 inches (broad). He checked into Indy at a modest 5-foot-9, 214 pounds. |
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Kevin King - DB - Huskies
In Monday's MMQB, Peter King writes "I think we know where Dallas is going in the draft" after losing multiple defensive backs to other teams in free agency. Starters Brandon Carr, Morris Claiborne and Barry Church all exited to other teams. Slot Orlando Scandrick and late round steal Anthony Brown remain at corner, but at least two other starting spots are open. This draft is loaded at cornerback, so the Cowboys should conceivably find a starter in the later part of round one and possibly even in round two. The team's safety depth might be even more shallow. |
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Sean Harlow - T - Beavers
Oregon State OL Sean Harlow is visiting the Saints and Browns this week. Harlow attended the NFL Combine and tested in the 32nd percentile. Harlow played left tackle this season and missed a number of games to open the season due to an ankle injury. Harlow gained around 20 pounds in the last few seasons and might be viewed as a utility lineman in the NFL. |
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T.J. Watt - LB - Badgers
A Midwest area scout for an AFC team said that Wisconsin edge rusher T.J. Watt "looked a lot stronger and a lot more confident on tape this year." "He needs to get bigger, but he's already a strong guy," the scout said. "I can see him standing or playing base end for a 4-3 team. He's going to keep getting better." Watt rocked it at both the Combine and on pro day. During the former athletic tests in Indianapolis, the 6-foot-4, 252-pound Wisconsin product was among the top performers at his position in the vertical leap (36 inches), broad jump (128 inches), three-cone drill (6.79 seconds), 20-yard shuttle (4.13 seconds) and 60-yard shuttle (11.20 seconds). And on pro day, he "displayed a smooth, fluid reverse when stimulating pass coverage," according to Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline. He met with the Steelers on pro day, though Pauline is hearing that Pittsburgh might not be willing to part with a first-round pick to acquire Watt's services. T.J. Watt - LB - Badgers Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline hears that the Steelers may not want to spend a first-round pick on Wisconsin edge rusher T.J. Watt. The Steelers are keen on Watt -- they sat down with him on pro day earlier this week -- but a first-round selection might just be too rich for their blood. As for his work on pro day itself, the 6-foot-4, 252-pounder "displayed a smooth, fluid backpedal and easy hip turn and looked natural moving in reverse when simulating pass coverage." One scout who spoke with Packers beat writer Bob McGinn has called Watt "more explosive" than Clay Matthews. He is in the Day 1 conversation. |
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Treston Decoud - DB - Beavers
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline believes that due to a lack of speed, Oregon State CB Treston Decoud's best NFL fit might come at safety. Pauline calls Decoud a "much better football player than athlete," explaining that "[h]e’s a solid cornerback but the lack of pure speed, both in the forty and on film, makes me believe he’s better off inside at safety." On the speed front, the 6-foot-2, 206-pounder logged a relatively uninspiring 4.62 seconds in the 40-yard dash at the Combine. He bettered that in his pro day work, coming in at 4.55 seconds. NFL Media's Lance Zierlein is of the same belief as Pauline, that safety is probably Decoud's snuggest next-level fit. |
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OVERVIEW Expectations were high for Tennessee and Dobbs coming into 2016, but unfortunately there wasn't a SEC East title or Heisman Trophy in the picture. One of the most intelligent (aerospace engineering major) and likeable players in college football, Dobbs did perform well at times in his senior year, racking up 2,946 yards and 27 touchdowns through the air and 831 yards with 12 scores on the ground. His 12 interceptions set a career high, however. Dobbs started all 13 games for the first time in his career as a junior (2,291 yards, 15 TD, five INT passing; 671 yards, 11 TD rushing), which followed a strong sophomore campaign where he was named the TaxSlayer.com Bowl MVP after accumulating 205 yards of offense and three scores against Iowa. The four-star recruit from Georgia actually started four games for the Vols as a true freshman (695 yards, two TD, six INT passing; 189 yards, one TD rushing). ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Has the ball handling and release quickness to get the ball out early when challenged by sudden pressure. Able to get through progressions to the check down option. Throws a tight spiral with adequate drive velocity. Eye-catching deep pass accuracy (47.7 completion percentage) with 14 touchdowns on throws 21-plus yards. Displayed good mental toughness. Can make timely exits from the pocket and win with his feet against overzealous rushers who vacate their rush lanes. Has explosive ability as a runner. Offers a team packaged-play potential in short yardage situations. WEAKNESSES Could use more weight on his frame. Below average delivery balance affects his accuracy and ball placement. Footwork is uneven and causes him to throw from unbalanced platform too often. Throwing motion causes him to push some throws. Floats the deep out allowing defenders to close out his passing windows. Decision making not where he needs it to be. Can't always get away from poor looks once he's made his mind up pre-snap. Threw nine interceptions on just 104 attempts beyond 10 yards this season. BOTTOM LINE Dobbs is hardly incompetent as a passer, but he hasn't shown as much growth with his ball placement and accuracy as scouts had hoped to see from this former four-star prospect. Dobbs has decent size and is an outstanding runner outside the pocket which could appeal to a team looking for a developmental quarterback with play-making ability. |
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Interesting...
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It was a torn pectoral for Moreau...
On the plus side he and Sidney Jones should both be there when we pick in the 2nd round if we're interested in red shirting one of them. |
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D lineman may go quicker in the draft due to these corners falling by the waist side at their respective Pro Day work outs.
Hopefully Moreau has a speedy recovery. |
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HT: 6'4" WT: 218LBS. POSITION: WR SCHOOL: Northern Illinois ARM LENGTH: 32" HANDS: 9 3/4" COMBINE STATS 40 YARD DASH: 4.50 SEC BENCH PRESS: 18 REPS VERTICAL JUMP: 35.5 INCH BROAD JUMP: 120.0 INCH 3 CONE DRILL: 7.00 SEC 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.15 SEC |
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QB scouting...
I like this guy for bringing back the mullet!?!?! Report: Saints conduct workout with Patrick Mahomes - NFL.com |
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Raekwon McMillan I am luke warm on. was youth to blame for all the mental break downs I saw? hits like Jane
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I'll be at Yale: 10 a.m. I just don't know who will be there.
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