Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?
 

Every NFL team has its cursed position. The Cleveland Browns never have a quarterback. The Seattle Seahawks have historical issues with their offensive line. And the New Orleans Saints have seemingly been haunted by the cornerback position since their inception.

In 50 seasons, the Saints have had three Pro Bowl cornerbacks: Dave Whitsell (1967); Dave Waymer (1987); and Eric Allen (1996). The current 21-year Pro Bowl drought is the longest in the NFL, a staggering run of futility at the position.

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The Saints have tried just about everything over the years to address what is arguably the most important position in the game other than quarterback. They selected corners in the first round of the NFL draft (Alex Molden, Malcolm Jenkins, Patrick Robinson,), bought veterans in free agency (Jabari Greer, Keenan Lewis, Brandon Browner), signed restricted free agents to offer sheets (Jason David) and took fliers on Canadian Football League prospects (Delvin Breaux).

Little has worked, although Breaux has been a pleasant surprise given his modest pedigree and relative lack of experience.

The Saints have fielded a number of good cornerbacks over the years. But they've lacked the proverbial shut-down guy.

All of this historical context is meant to explain why the Saints might be so hell-bent on acquiring Malcolm Butler.

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I just worry about the system NE runs. Safety help over the top is such a huge part of their scheme. I just do not see a FS on the roster with that skill set to patrol mid field like that. size is another concern

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Budda Baker could be that. That's his specialty. Maybe if we had more over the top help we wouldn't get burnt so often.

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Baker is getting the Honey badger type comparisons. He could be special.

Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?
 

I like him. If Tredavious White isn't there at 32 I'd take Budda Baker. If Obi Melifonwu is there in the 2nd round I'd be tempted to pair those two together and move Vacarro.

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Givecup a pick for a system player? Or use that pick to possibly draft our future CB or Safety.....also Butler couldn't cover Brandin Cooks...if that means anything

Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?
 

I feel like it's a reach...and the Saints would be getting the short end of the stick

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Is the hypothetical CB or safety we pick just a product of his college system?

Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?
 

If Butler is a system player then we need to implement that system in New Orleans ASAP. It's a good enough system to get the Patriots all of these Super Bowls and to make a no-named cornerback into somebody who would get $12-14 million on the open market.

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I'd prefer intimidators like NC State's Josh Jones...

Let Kenny V move back to his more natural FS spot, if he can't beat out Vonn Bell, then move on without the salary cap hit...

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Lombardi really pushing it will have to be the Saints 11 pick

Can i ask why everyone is ignoring the fact the front office could sign Butler to a deal at the draft and the pick will be a 2018 pick (im not mustaken here?)

Load up in a defensive draft and get Butler. Then go all out this year. Id be really tempted to do this over giving up a 2nd this year. Thos draft is deep and we are on borrowed time with Brees age so if you feel you need Butler push the boat out,throw all the chips in the pot and go for it

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here's the article : What’s The Holdup With Malcolm Butler, The Saints, And The Patriots? « CBS Boston

it doesn't appear Lombardi has a clue

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The man that drafted Gilbert and Manziel doesnt have a clue?

Im shocked

Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?
 

Well, if the owner tells you to draft someone, you draft that someone.

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It's interesting looking at both sides of this thing. Pats fans want to flat out refuse anything less than our #11 pick. Most Saints fans don't want to give up either 1st round pick. If we give them #32 both fan bases will be livid lol.

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I don't know about this 11th pick - this guy isn't exactly Deion Sanders is he?

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So go with 2 rookies and drop our 2 starters Bell and Kv? That would be smart. look, I agree we need safety depth but I'm happy going into the season with Bell and kv. Problem is we run a lot of 3 safety sets. That means we need a talented #3 safety that is just as talented as our #3 cb. Baker could be a nice pick up and play as a #3 but no way he starts over the other two. Obi is way over rated. Reminds me of SJB a few years back. All potential and no history of playing great.

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Again, there is no way we are giving up #11.

It's all about guaranteed money right now.

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Saints need to let NE keep him. He's a short corner with average speed. I think any pick higher than a 5th round pick is too high. And they'd have to pay the guy too. Let NE keep him.

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I am hoping we get out 4th rounder back.

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I wouldn't bet on it.

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I am so confused... jsut get the deal done or not and lets get ready for the draft.

I have a huge issue if we lose the 11th pick for him. If we do everyone needs to be fired.

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REPORT: Patriots Want Huge Return From Saints in Deal for Malcolm Butler | 12up

Don't know how legit this article is, but apparently the Patriots want the 11th pick from us for Butler.

Stay well away from him, if this happens to be true, Belichek will simply refuse to agree to the tender and then they will get our 11th.

If Payton gives up the 11th pick, he needs to be fired.

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If they are pushing that i can see the Saints doing a deal but not till before or just after the draft. Then the pick is a 2018 pick. You go all in and hope the pick you give up is the 32 pick after winning the lot

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That isn't a "report". It is an opinion piece based upon the same tweet that a clueless Michael Lombardi threw out there. The only reason he is speculating on that is because of the tender. If you read this "report" based upon the same tweet, you find this tidbit ...

Stop believing this baseless drivel, dizzle. ;)

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Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?
 

we need youth not 27 yo that are not worthy of a no 1 pick screw belicheck, he got us on cooks for a 32 please just keep butler. draft white or trade up for adams payton, let the lsu curse go. u would have 6 foot hieght in both and are pure atheletes with closing speed we have;nt seen sinse well sinse ah ah just get one of them.

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Damn if we would have known Brady's jersey was so valuable we could have stolen it and demanded Butler as the ransom payment!

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If this trade go down and Malcolm Butler become a saint, I will be all in for Payton and Loomis being fired. As for trade, New England valued a undrafted corner for #11 pick and while Loomis and company value a legitimate 1st rd pick (which they traded up to obtain) for #32 and swap out a top 4th rd pick for a compensatory 3rd, Sound stupid? Cause it is stupid! And the sad thing is Malcolm is not even worth a 1st rd pick. If you look at a lot of highlights of anyone you will be brainwashed, look at Jason David, Brandon Browner, and Stanley Baptiste. LEAVE THE TABLE from New England, they screwed you once, don't give them seconds

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Lets just get Lester Hayes and some stickum.

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This defense needs to many upgrades still to start this super bowl push signing mentality.

There are more questions than there is a need for that one last piece.

Get into the top 15 in any one defensive category first before thinking about shooting for the moon.

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What you are hearing is nothing more than speculation. There is absolutely no evidence that the Pats are asking for a first rounder from the Saints. None at all. It is all based upon the tender value, not any actual demand.

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Once again, there has not been any demand for the Saints' first round pick in exchange for Butler. NFL Network's Michael Lombardi posts a tweet that says it would cost the Saints their #11 pick based upon the tender value of the RFA tag on Butler and dimwitted bloggers take it as a supposed demand from the Patriots. Others, with a brain in their head, have said that the #11 pick would not be considered by any of the parties involved in an actual trade.

:rolleyes:

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Sometimes I wonder if people ever read anything past the headline today. I read dozens of articles a day and headlines, and lead in paragraphs, seldom, if ever, convey the actual content, or context, of the "article".

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Well I like what the Pats are doing... you can't do anything until the tender is signed. Looks like there was a rush and talks but they were in uncharted waters. They have been in enough trouble perhaps its why they have taken a step back in the talks. Once the tender is signed then they have leverage. They control the compensation for him.

Could all this sit and wait till after the draft and they get compensated next year? If I was NE I would say screw that we are going on in to win this year why would they let him go at that point. All the moves they have made this year is not the norm for them. They are going all in to repeat.

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I wouldn't want them to give up a 1st round pick for him since they will have to give him a huge contract - certainly not the 11th pick.

But next year's 1st round pick could be acceptable if it meant the Saints could go far this season - as I've understood it, they can sign him at the eve of the draft and give up next year's 1st round pick.

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Ole school at it's finest! AKA The Judge aka The legend and was one hell of a corner back.

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Is this ever going to happen.