I'm not buying it

WillSaints81 · 03-21-2017, 04:13 PM

Who do we have that is going to be a "ball hawk"? because I don't see it, we can talk about getting better pressure all we want but we can't expect someone to step up and take the ball away among what we had. And safety is hard position to draft. So we're hoping the pass rush and improves and forces more third downs. I'm going to say maybe the defense is lucky enough to allow one less score, but by doing that, Brees has one more drive to do something. And if he doesn't, then we will find ourselves in the same position. Teams make big plays against us, they can adjust to smaller plays. I just don't think we have the solution to getting turnovers.

dizzle88 · 03-21-2017, 04:19 PM

We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense.

Exactly. Turnovers will be gravy. Our offense can produce enough to win with the defense simply holding their own.

WillSaints81 · 03-21-2017, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense.

That's going to be so easy to do, right? Brees will play better at the 40 than the 20 too right? It was y'all that said Brees needed short fields. Let's see if this works against Green Bay and Detroit next year. Oh, and the bears no longer have Cutler either. They will be a problem as well. The schedule's better than last year for offenses against us or have the right balance to counter attack us.

Green Bay, New England are good on offense
Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago, Buffalo, LA are good on defense.

So we want to improve defensively to force punts but when we force them against the likes of the defensive teams, they're going to hit back. The saints, without turnovers, will not be able to execute the quick strike with Ingram like they did against TB.

Something tells me though we will win the division next year because the division is gonna suck.

K Major · 03-21-2017, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Something tells me though we will win the division next year because the division is gonna suck.

We will win the division because we've added depth, drafted well and stay healthy on defense. This is the NFL, nothing is easy.

WillSaints81 · 03-21-2017, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

We will win the division because we've added depth, drafted well and stay healthy on defense. This is the NFL, nothing is easy.

So if the defense we had was healthy last year we win the division.

Danno · 03-21-2017, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

So if the defense we had was healthy last year we win the division.

I'd say absolutely, no question

blackangold · 03-21-2017, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

That's going to be so easy to do, right? Brees will play better at the 40 than the 20 too right? It was y'all that said Brees needed short fields. Let's see if this works against Green Bay and Detroit next year. Oh, and the bears no longer have Cutler either. They will be a problem as well. The schedule's better than last year for offenses against us or have the right balance to counter attack us.

Green Bay, New England are good on offense
Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago, Buffalo, LA are good on defense.

So we want to improve defensively to force punts but when we force them against the likes of the defensive teams, they're going to hit back. The saints, without turnovers, will not be able to execute the quick strike with Ingram like they did against TB.

Something tells me though we will win the division next year because the division is gonna suck.

Dude, why did you come back if this is the trash you're bringing to the forum?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't agree with you at all. The moves thus far have been great for the D. Not to mention the new position coaches... Great offseason so far and the draft is still to come. All we need is Butler and a starting DE from the draft, we could be looking at a top ten D.

If you don't think that's possible just remember where we were in 2012 and how we rebounded on D in 2013, from last to 4th in one year.

WillSaints81 · 03-21-2017, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense.

Is there really a difference from the 20th place defense and the 31st?

Seer1 · 03-21-2017, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Is there really a difference from the 20th place defense and the 31st?

Championship!

03-21-2017, 04:13 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	I'm not buying it Who do we have that is going to be a "ball hawk"? because I don't see it, we can talk about getting better pressure all we want but we can't expect someone to step up and take the ball away among what we had. And safety is hard position to draft. So we're hoping the pass rush and improves and forces more third downs. I'm going to say maybe the defense is lucky enough to allow one less score, but by doing that, Brees has one more drive to do something. And if he doesn't, then we will find ourselves in the same position. Teams make big plays against us, they can adjust to smaller plays. I just don't think we have the solution to getting turnovers. foreverfan likes this.

03-21-2017, 04:19 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: I'm not buying it We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense. saintfan, jnormand, Euphoria and 9 others like this.

03-21-2017, 04:22 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by dizzle88 We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense. Exactly. Turnovers will be gravy. Our offense can produce enough to win with the defense simply holding their own. jnormand, mleg1972, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

03-21-2017, 04:43 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by dizzle88 We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense. That's going to be so easy to do, right? Brees will play better at the 40 than the 20 too right? It was y'all that said Brees needed short fields. Let's see if this works against Green Bay and Detroit next year. Oh, and the bears no longer have Cutler either. They will be a problem as well. The schedule's better than last year for offenses against us or have the right balance to counter attack us. Green Bay, New England are good on offense Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago, Buffalo, LA are good on defense. So we want to improve defensively to force punts but when we force them against the likes of the defensive teams, they're going to hit back. The saints, without turnovers, will not be able to execute the quick strike with Ingram like they did against TB. Something tells me though we will win the division next year because the division is gonna suck.

03-21-2017, 04:49 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Something tells me though we will win the division next year because the division is gonna suck. We will win the division because we've added depth, drafted well and stay healthy on defense. This is the NFL, nothing is easy. leilung likes this.

03-21-2017, 05:12 PM	#6
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by K Major We will win the division because we've added depth, drafted well and stay healthy on defense. This is the NFL, nothing is easy. So if the defense we had was healthy last year we win the division.

03-21-2017, 05:43 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by WillSaints81 So if the defense we had was healthy last year we win the division. I'd say absolutely, no question mleg1972 and \|Mitch\| like this.

03-21-2017, 10:32 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by WillSaints81 That's going to be so easy to do, right? Brees will play better at the 40 than the 20 too right? It was y'all that said Brees needed short fields. Let's see if this works against Green Bay and Detroit next year. Oh, and the bears no longer have Cutler either. They will be a problem as well. The schedule's better than last year for offenses against us or have the right balance to counter attack us. Green Bay, New England are good on offense Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago, Buffalo, LA are good on defense. So we want to improve defensively to force punts but when we force them against the likes of the defensive teams, they're going to hit back. The saints, without turnovers, will not be able to execute the quick strike with Ingram like they did against TB. Something tells me though we will win the division next year because the division is gonna suck. Dude, why did you come back if this is the trash you're bringing to the forum? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't agree with you at all. The moves thus far have been great for the D. Not to mention the new position coaches... Great offseason so far and the draft is still to come. All we need is Butler and a starting DE from the draft, we could be looking at a top ten D. If you don't think that's possible just remember where we were in 2012 and how we rebounded on D in 2013, from last to 4th in one year. jnormand likes this.
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03-21-2017, 04:47 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by dizzle88 We don't have to get any turnovers at all to be quite frank, getting off the field on 3rd down will solve literally every problem we have on defense. Is there really a difference from the 20th place defense and the 31st?

03-21-2017, 06:48 PM	#10
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: I'm not buying it Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Is there really a difference from the 20th place defense and the 31st? Championship! jnormand and Utah_Saint like this.

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