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FireVenturi 03-22-2005 10:42 PM

Sullivan
 
Heard on WWL this evening that Sully weighed in at 355+lbs this week. He is a disgrace, it is time to write him off. He should be cut after June 1st. Only about 1% of these type of guys ever turn it around and become just decent......Later Sully!!! When he's asked why he don't work hard WWl said he always says its because he already has his $$$$$. What a loser

baronm 03-22-2005 11:28 PM

Sullivan
 
unfortunatly that is how many pro athletes feel..that\'s why you\'ve got to be careful when picking guys in the draft and if they have their best year as a senior/junior before the draft or if they have character concerns or if they are inconsistent..then you should be very careful.

saintz08 03-22-2005 11:56 PM

Sullivan
 
Quote:

Heard on WWL this evening that Sully weighed in at 355+lbs this week.
Hasbeen wanted to spend 2 no. 1 \'s on him because he was a 2 gap DT . Yep a few more pounds and the lard butt could cover 2 gaps just by lining up .

rAge 03-23-2005 01:56 AM

Sullivan
 
I said it on the main page and I\'ll say it here - it\'s too early to write him off, much less make a stupid move and cut him. Look at the other DL\'s from that year, the only one who has lived up to anything is Kevin Williams. Dewayne Robertson is solid and Ty Warren is good when he is on the field, but the rest have done just as little as Sullivan. Williams Joseph & Jimmy Kennedy, the two guys everyone here were wanting badly before the draft, are possibly WORSE than Sullivan so-far. None of the DE\'s that first round have done a damn thing either.

Give him another two years and then we can see what happens.

JKool 03-23-2005 02:20 AM

Sullivan
 
I imagine that, much like T-buck, if we cut him now our cap hit would be larger than keeping him.

I thought Pease was gonna ride his arse this offseason... so much for that.

Danno 03-23-2005 06:21 AM

Sullivan
 
He won\'t be on the opening day roster.

WhoDat 03-23-2005 08:45 AM

Sullivan
 
Look at all the progress players make when the coaches focus on a guy\'s conditioning in the offseason and make him their \"personal projects.\" LOL. I don\'t know how you can possibly be skeptical of this staff. :beer2:

saintswhodi 03-23-2005 09:06 AM

Sullivan
 
rAge, how can you say ANYONE is wrose than Sullivan. Those guys still go out and play, not get scratched fromt he line-up while they are healthy. For him to get better, he has to PLAY and wanna play, and he doesn\'t. I\'ll take a bust who tries and hold on to the hope he can get better over one who steals my money and doesn\'t care.

LKelley67 03-23-2005 09:26 AM

Sullivan
 
i think kennedy and joesph have made the active roster and not embarassed their organization\'s nationally by their over indulgent escapades.

sorry rAge, this reminds me of the aaron brooks is the best qb in saints history reasoning. what the hell are ya comparing him to? two more years?!? have patience to make the active roster for $19million? this big lazy azzed food machine deserves all the deriding he gets. i hope they abuse him as much as possible like a blocking dummy until he is cut. he shouldn\'t be hard to find in griffin georgia after he is cut. i might even invest some postage to let my sentiments be known with something that stinks as much as he does.

bignic26 03-23-2005 10:52 AM

Sullivan
 
How did the FO go through meetings with this bum and still not see that he had no heart? Sully must have put on a good show for them because they busted a gut to get his sorry arse.

You mean to tell me that we wasted two mid first round picks on a guy who when asked why he doesn\'t try hard replies \"because I\'ve got my money\"? That makes my stomach hurt, literally. How could Haz and Loomis be so stupid?

Also, is there any truth to what I\'ve heard about his nickname being 11.5 or something like that. Like when somebody asks, \"why don\'t you care anymore Sully\", and he replies, \"11.5\". As in the amount of money he\'s stole from our team.

LKelley67 03-23-2005 11:52 AM

Sullivan
 
canloomis said his heart for playing was questioned when he played at georgia. the staff got gaga over him being the big run stuffing body tho. and boy can he stuff, just not runs.

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and speaking of crap, i havent heard hide nor hair of victor riley with any other team at all. he\'ll latch on i\'m sure but i bet it will be with \"terms undisclosed\", ie league minimum.

GoldenTomb 03-23-2005 12:17 PM

Sullivan
 
No but there are some on this board who think that he is still worth giving a shot. I said it before....just sit his azz down on the bench and make an example out of him. Or make him a speedbump in the stadium parking lot. Putting him on the field just to try to get the team\'s money\'s worth will hurt them more than it will help.

Man I still remember people making fun of me whenever the Saints picked him. They were like \"who the hell is that sorry dude\". I told them I had no idea.

turbo_dog 03-23-2005 12:43 PM

Sullivan
 
I don\'t know about anybody else, but my anger for Sullivan is MORE than just anger at Sullivan. Sure, I\'m pissed at this fatass lazy bum with a Jerry Springer attitude. (\"I can do what I want. I gots mine!!\")

However, I think I\'m more mad about the poor decision making that our staff made in using TWO first round draft picks to move up and get him. ESPECIALLY when it was obvious to some over the past few years that we had pretty good (not great, so don\'t try to change my words) DTs with Normand Hand and Grady Jackson. We needed better linebackers and DBs, an area this staff seemed to think was really not important.

So my anger with Sullivan is doubled. I am sure mad at him, and the fact that he is basically a worthless piece of crap. But I think I\'m more mad at those who made the 6th pick of the 2003 NFL draft.

LKelley67 03-23-2005 12:48 PM

Sullivan
 
right on turbo. someone\'s head should have rolled over that decsion alone. maybe just make it for show, the scouting director or somebody. this franchise has made some astoundingly bad first picks in 37 years. in this age of shared information in the nfl to be the worst of all of those bad ones... that is pretty damn bad..

GumboBC 03-23-2005 12:54 PM

Sullivan
 
Sullivan shouldn\'t be given another chance. I knew this bum wasn\'t any good when he was in college. It was widely reported that he had character problems and most scouts reported he didn\'t have the talent to play in the NFL.

There is absolutely NO way that Sullivan is ever going to do anything. He simply doesn\'t have the talent to play in the NFL. NEVER!!

Any coach who drafts a bust with that high of a pick should be fired. That ALONE shows what kind of talent evaluators we\'ve got in New Orleans.

I\'m sick of the Saints. Who cares who we draft this year. They will just be another bust. At least that what the past shows with Sullivan.

I just don\'t get some of you guys. Some of you are so excited about the draft and you\'d have to be an idiot to think we\'re going to get anyone worth a damn.

bignic26 03-23-2005 01:02 PM

Sullivan
 
Gumbo the sun shines on a dog\'s arse sometimes. Maybe they\'ll luck up and draft a stud by pure chance. They can\'t draft bums all the time. And afterall, W.Smith, C.Grant and LeCharles aren\'t that bad. :thumbsup:

[Edited on 23/3/2005 by bignic26]

baronm 03-23-2005 02:30 PM

Sullivan
 
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canloomis said his heart for playing was questioned when he played at georgia. the staff got gaga over him being the big run stuffing body tho. and boy can he stuff, just not runs.

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see thisis the same thing we are hearing about travis johnson...questionable work ethic, inconsistent, character problems.

the thing that pisses me off about sullivan is that I REAyLLY wanted vima and dansby and we could have gotten them or hell-how many others.....

[Edited on 23/3/2005 by baronm]

saintswhodi 03-23-2005 03:05 PM

Sullivan
 
We had no shot at Vilma without trading up.

FireVenturi 03-23-2005 03:31 PM

Sullivan
 
Quote:

I said it on the main page and I\'ll say it here - it\'s too early to write him off, much less make a stupid move and cut him. Look at the other DL\'s from that year, the only one who has lived up to anything is Kevin Williams. Dewayne Robertson is solid and Ty Warren is good when he is on the field, but the rest have done just as little as Sullivan. Williams Joseph & Jimmy Kennedy, the two guys everyone here were wanting badly before the draft, are possibly WORSE than Sullivan so-far. None of the DE\'s that first round have done a damn thing either.

Give him another two years and then we can see what happens.
Guys like him don\'t change. he is takin up a roster spot.....later Sully

FireVenturi 03-23-2005 03:33 PM

Sullivan
 
Quote:

How did the FO go through meetings with this bum and still not see that he had no heart? Sully must have put on a good show for them because they busted a gut to get his sorry arse.

You mean to tell me that we wasted two mid first round picks on a guy who when asked why he doesn\'t try hard replies \"because I\'ve got my money\"? That makes my stomach hurt, literally. How could Haz and Loomis be so stupid?

Also, is there any truth to what I\'ve heard about his nickname being 11.5 or something like that. Like when somebody asks, \"why don\'t you care anymore Sully\", and he replies, \"11.5\". As in the amount of money he\'s stole from our team.
I also heard that , but i thought he meant he could eat 11.5 Big Mac\'s?????


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