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K Major 03-31-2017 02:20 PM

Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
Saints coach Sean Payton said he has a “crystal-clear vision” for new receiver Ted Ginn Jr. in the New Orleans offense.

Most of that vision is pretty obvious. Ginn is a blazing-fast vertical threat who was signed the day before the Saints traded away blazing-fast receiver Brandin Cooks.

Payton pointed out during his media session at the NFL meetings on Wednesday that the two receivers are “a little different” and Ginn is a little bigger at 5-foot-11. But Payton said “he’ll do some of the same things.”

“I see him playing at flanker. I see him being a guy that can take the top off the coverage. I like what this guy does,” Payton said of Ginn, a 10-year veteran who just had the best two-year stretch of his career with the Carolina Panthers, combining for 98 catches, 1,491 yards and 14 touchdowns in 2015 and 2016...

Saints' Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still fastest player on the field - New Orleans Saints Blog- ESPN

Euphoria 03-31-2017 02:29 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
When ever he has a clear vision on Offense he really hasn't been wrong everyone has been successful.

Seer1 03-31-2017 02:55 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
He's always been a burner. Get Johnson to work a bit of his magic on Ginn's hands and....

wait for it...

Championship!

Seer1 03-31-2017 02:56 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
He's always been a burner. Get Johnson to work a bit of his magic on Ginn's hands and....

wait for it...

Championship!

AsylumGuido 03-31-2017 03:00 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 743340)
He's always been a burner. Get Johnson to work a bit of his magic on Ginn's hands and....

wait for it...

Championship!

You can say that again.

AsylumGuido 03-31-2017 03:01 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 743341)
He's always been a burner. Get Johnson to work a bit of his magic on Ginn's hands and....

wait for it...

Championship!

Oh, wait, you did.

hagan714 03-31-2017 03:40 PM

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looks great running down the field. all he has to is catch it

ScottF 03-31-2017 05:25 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
Just keep sending him on post patterns and throw underneath. He's most effective when the ball is not thrown to him.

Beastmode 03-31-2017 06:59 PM

Re: Sean Payton: Ted Ginn Jr. still the fastest player on the field
 
Dude is old but if we can get one good year out of him like Beer Man Lewis this is going to work really well. He is still fast, maybe not take the top off Cook fast but good enough. Ball won't be going to him most of the time anyway but he also can't be stuck in a corner either. Leave him open and Brees will find easily.

ChrisXVI 03-31-2017 07:17 PM

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I don't care one bit about what he does as a wide receiver... I just want the dude returning kicks and punts.

Danno 03-31-2017 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 743375)
I don't care one bit about what he does as a wide receiver... I just want the dude returning kicks and punts.

He reminds me of Michael Lewis, but a better WR.

NonieT 04-01-2017 09:32 AM

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I'm more worried about his hands than I am his feet. Doesn't do any good to be fast if he can't catch the ball.

Seer1 04-01-2017 11:33 AM

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He's been in the business for ten years. No way he does that if he drops everything coming his way. And he hasn't Drew throwing to him yet.

mleg1972 04-01-2017 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 743420)
I'm more worried about his hands than I am his feet. Doesn't do any good to be fast if he can't catch the ball.

He has gotten better over the years.

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Beastmode 04-01-2017 09:13 PM

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I think we get one strong year out of him. Dude is not that bright, said it himself. He has a learning disability. Just hit pay dirt a couple of times on kicks and even stevens.

hagan714 04-02-2017 02:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 743432)
He's been in the business for ten years. No way he does that if he drops everything coming his way. And he hasn't Drew throwing to him yet.

Must have missed all those dropped passes he had against the saints when he was with the panthers. wide open drops

this is the knock on him since he came to the NFL and the reason he never sticks with a team long. Speed and height are his only selling point.

It the same hype as Cam is tough and we all know to rattle Cam the scouting report is the same year in and year out. Hit him early and often and he will fold.

pherein 04-02-2017 03:41 AM

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cant catch, that simple, and had enpuph time to learn. punt/kick off return im ok with. Wouldnt waste a throw on him.

Utah_Saint 04-02-2017 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 743481)
cant catch, that simple, and had enpuph time to learn. punt/kick off return im ok with. Wouldnt waste a throw on him.

Yeah, his hands suck but I'd be throwing to him a few times per game. Keep the defense honest. A pump fake from Brees can take a corner and a free safety outta the play.

He got 4 touchdowns and 750 yards last season with Cam Newton throwing the ball. I'd think those numbers would get better with Drew throwing to him. He'd also have better receivers with him to make it harder for defenses to match up.

Seer1 04-02-2017 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 743479)
Must have missed all those dropped passes he had against the saints when he was with the panthers. wide open drops

this is the knock on him since he came to the NFL and the reason he never sticks with a team long. Speed and height are his only selling point.

It the same hype as Cam is tough and we all know to rattle Cam the scouting report is the same year in and year out. Hit him early and often and he will fold.

Hard not to be hopeful with spring blooming here in the Rockies. With all the new stuff waiting at the Dome for Ginn, I'm hoping he makes you eat your words and I'll bet you are too!

Rsanders24 04-02-2017 09:06 PM

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The only concern that I have is his catching ability to go up and get the ball. Yes, he still has pretty good deep speed and can run under the ball but we also know that typically Brees' deep ball is a jump ball. Most times the WR has to slowdown for the ball. That is one thing Cooks was pretty good at despite his size. Hopefully CJ can help him locate the ball better.

Beastmode 04-03-2017 03:43 AM

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One interesting fact, 66% of his career he has been in the playoffs. Sort of a Money Ball Jonah Hill thing going on for sure.

Rugby Saint II 04-03-2017 04:01 PM

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Burn down field full speed. Welcome!��

K Major 04-03-2017 04:09 PM

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Even at 31 years of age, it wouldn't surprise me if Ted still runs sub 4.3 40.

But those hands though ...


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