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SmashMouth 04-01-2017 02:56 AM

Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
The Saints decided earlier this month to move on from receiver Brandin Cooks, a first-round pick in 2014 who has developed into a quality player. On Friday, quarterback Drew Brees explained during a visit to PFT Live his reaction to the move.

“You know that was tough, because I love Brandin and not only is he a great teammate but he’s a great friend and obviously we were able to accomplish some great things together over the last three years,” Brees said. “I think it was just one of those unfortunate things that maybe kind of took on a life of its own too as the season progressed and then into the offseason. You know, there was so much speculation about his intentions and that kind of thing in regards to whether he wanted to be here or not he wanted to be here and I think a lot of that was kind of fostered by the media and that kind of thing. But at the end of the day I hope that he got what he wanted or got in to a good situation, which I think he did and obviously we got some draft picks out of it. So at the end of the day I just want what’s best for him, also want what’s best for us and hopefully that accomplished that.”

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Seer1 04-01-2017 11:48 AM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
And then there's that unmentioned but that's even bigger than Warford's. Remember when Drew was begging for some D? I think he was more than willing to see Cooks go in exchange for some of that. Classy way to send him off though. Thanks for the post Smash.

K Major 07-03-2017 02:33 PM

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Bump ...

AsylumGuido 07-03-2017 03:11 PM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Ginn plus Ramczyk equals more to our current roster at this point than Cooks. I loved Cooks, but offensive pieces have been fairly interchangeable the last decade.

MatthewT 07-03-2017 03:23 PM

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If the revamped RB positions work out then Cooks will not be missed. Brees will have everything he needs for the mid range stuff, and the screen passing game should be back. This is where most of the damage is done, ability to hit Ginn on a bomb every now and then, good to go.

dizzle88 07-03-2017 03:28 PM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Cooks was a game breaker when given the opportunity but I'm not going to support someone who sends out cryptic tweets and cries to the media when he doesn't record a catch during a 28 point win. I don't care who you are, not one player is bigger than the team and Cooks got far too big for his boots.

Ben Watson proved the offense is interchangeable, all we heard all offseason is "how will we replace Graham," then a 37 year old Ben Watson made those questions disappear.

darstep 07-04-2017 05:54 AM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Hated to see Cooks go, but oh well...
As long as Brees is upright, Payton will give him options.
Offense will still be Top-5; if we can get the defense to Top-15 we're golden.

Seer1 07-04-2017 08:24 AM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Drew made Cooks special, not vise versa. Next man up and Drew'll do the same for him.

QBREES9 07-05-2017 07:03 AM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Drew Brees is right.

Rugby Saint II 07-05-2017 11:25 AM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
He didn't produce when we forced the ball to him after he whined about his catches. I lost a ton of respect for him that game.
If you are going to whine then you had better produce! :bng:

WillSaints81 07-05-2017 06:11 PM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
That's on SP and Brees for not following the gameplan. Cooks won the game in Arizona, something I'm sure Ginny could not do. Each game needs a different receiver.

K Major 07-05-2017 06:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754348)
That's on SP and Brees for not following the gameplan. Cooks won the game in Arizona, something I'm sure Ginny could not do. Each game needs a different receiver.

Which game plan :confused: ?

AsylumGuido 07-05-2017 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754348)
That's on SP and Brees for not following the gameplan. Cooks won the game in Arizona, something I'm sure Ginny could not do. Each game needs a different receiver.

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Seer1 07-05-2017 07:56 PM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Damn! I've got him on ignore and he's still popping up!

foreverfan 07-05-2017 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754348)
That's on SP and Brees for not following the gameplan. Cooks won the game in Arizona, something I'm sure Ginny could not do. Each game needs a different receiver.

This is why we needed to get rid of him. We needed defense more. :smokin:

Something you will never seen in New Orleans...

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Seer1 07-05-2017 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 754357)
This is why we needed to get rid of him. We needed defense more. :smokin:

Something you will never seen in New Orleans...

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Are you tryin' to make the "I Told You So" list?

WillSaints81 07-09-2017 12:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 754352)
Which game plan :confused: ?

I didn't start it, someone else said on here that Cooks complained about getting no catches in the rams game that Brees decided to force it to him in the lions' game. I put my take on it because it's hard to understand if people actually know what they are talking about.

WillSaints81 07-09-2017 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 754317)
He didn't produce when we forced the ball to him after he whined about his catches. I lost a ton of respect for him that game.
If you are going to whine then you had better produce! :bng:

In the lions game, Cooks issues were more on Brees because the running game suffered. The lions also had a pass rusher named Ezekiel Ansah. This has been Brees' biggest weakness. He can pick apart a secondary but he cannot beat elite pass rushers on teams that stop the run.

Rugby Saint II 07-09-2017 01:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754534)
In the lions game, Cooks issues were more on Brees because the running game suffered. The lions also had a pass rusher named Ezekiel Ansah. This has been Brees' biggest weakness. He can pick apart a secondary but he cannot beat elite pass rushers on teams that stop the run.

Seriously? It's on Drew Brees because Cooks dropped passes? If that's the case with Ginn catching balls from Brees then we're screwed.....

Cooks was limited in his repertoire and Payton had bigger visions for him in the game plan when we traded up in the first round to get him. He was not a good return man and wasn't very elusive. But he was fast and when Drew dropped the ball in for Cooks at full speed it was a thing of beauty. Devery Henderson and Robert Meachem were fast too.....Drew made them look good. So did Curtis Johnson the receivers coach. Who incidentally is back coaching our receivers both young and old with his impressive coaching techniques and style.

My point is Drew made those fast receivers look good not the other way around. He does it consistently and elevates the team around him in almost every game he's played as a Saint.

He's human and makes mistakes. Everyone does. Even I do. So do you. You just have to learn from your mistakes and he's a student of the game. He is one of the best prepared men in the game and keeps himself in peak physical condition to perform at his maximum every game.

I don't understand how you evaluate this team. It's obvious that you love them but get a big screen color TV so you can see what's going on.:bng:

WillSaints81 07-09-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 754535)
Seriously? It's on Drew Brees because Cooks dropped passes? If that's the case with Ginn catching balls from Brees then we're screwed.....

Cooks was limited in his repertoire and Payton had bigger visions for him in the game plan when we traded up in the first round to get him. He was not a good return man and wasn't very elusive. But he was fast and when Drew dropped the ball in for Cooks at full speed it was a thing of beauty. Devery Henderson and Robert Meachem were fast too.....Drew made them look good. So did Curtis Johnson the receivers coach. Who incidentally is back coaching our receivers both young and old with his impressive coaching techniques and style.

My point is Drew made those fast receivers look good not the other way around. He does it consistently and elevates the team around him in almost every game he's played as a Saint.

He's human and makes mistakes. Everyone does. Even I do. So do you. You just have to learn from your mistakes and he's a student of the game. He is one of the best prepared men in the game and keeps himself in peak physical condition to perform at his maximum every game.

I don't understand how you evaluate this team. It's obvious that you love them but get a big screen color TV so you can see what's going on.:bng:

Timing. It was off. Yeah those receivers were great because of Drew but Drew cannot make a skillset happen for a receiver that does not have it. Again, if you think Ted Ginn Jr explodes for 180 yards and two TDs under the same circumstances, I don't know what to tell you.

You are reaffirming that Brees was trying to throw the ball to Cooks after his meltdown and again, as I said, the final decision is doing what helps you win. Therefore, if ignoring a wide open Thomas all game is doing what helps one win(and Fleener got a good bit of targets in this game as well). However, that's not why. When the pocket collapses there is a lack of rhythym. When Brees is forced to throw because his running game is taken away he's less accurate. Whether Cooks dropped the passes or not, it was a tough matchup and lions players admitted to spoofing Cooks. The running game was off, Fleener continuing his schtick, and Thomas not fast enough(as it's not his strength) for Brees to notice downfield. This was the kind of game that was evident why Kamara was drafted. That was one weakness of the lions defense being a pass catching back. Also TE, and well.......

Utah_Saint 07-09-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754559)
... and Thomas not fast enough(as it's not his strength) for Brees to notice downfield.

PFF: Michael Thomas is NFL's best deep threat - Cover32

Just a friendly tip, there are dozens of sites online that you could check before you post.

AsylumGuido 07-09-2017 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 754582)
PFF: Michael Thomas is NFL's best deep threat - Cover32

Just a friendly tip, there are dozens of sites online that you could check before you post.

Will(Insert Team Name Here)81 and facts have always appeared to be mutually exclusive.

RockyMountainSaint 07-09-2017 11:33 PM

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WillSaints81 07-10-2017 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 754582)
PFF: Michael Thomas is NFL's best deep threat - Cover32

Just a friendly tip, there are dozens of sites online that you could check before you post.

No, I knew what I was talking about. Thomas is not a Z, he is a X. he cannot run downfield 40+ yards in two secs like the way Cooks, and now Ginn, can. In fact I have not seen Thomas make those kinds of catches unless it was against SF and LA. I am also taking hail marys here not run after catch which is what Thomas does. Deep threat is someone who can catch a long pass, not someone who can catch and keep going. Thomas wasn't the one hauling in 98 and 80 yard TDs last year.


Still blaming Cooks for a game that the offense has had a history of losing and struggling against that particular defense is nothing but an excuse to hate someone IMO.

AsylumGuido 07-10-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754645)
No, I knew what I was talking about. Thomas is not a Z, he is a X. he cannot run downfield 40+ yards in two secs like the way Cooks, and now Ginn, can. In fact I have not seen Thomas make those kinds of catches unless it was against SF and LA. I am also taking hail marys here not run after catch which is what Thomas does. Deep threat is someone who can catch a long pass, not someone who can catch and keep going. Thomas wasn't the one hauling in 98 and 80 yard TDs last year.


Still blaming Cooks for a game that the offense has had a history of losing and struggling against that particular defense is nothing but an excuse to hate someone IMO.

Check the actual stats, dude. Their YAC and YPC were very close. You try as hard as you can to try to act like you know what you are talking about. Adopt a new team. I have heard the Raiders are up and coming! Get you an early seat on that bandwagon. But a warning. They also have fans that know what they are talking about.

dizzle88 07-10-2017 05:46 PM

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There's no such thing as an X and a Z in our offense.

There are multiple sets, multiple formations, and players have to know the entire route tree.

AsylumGuido 07-10-2017 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 754652)
There's no such thing as an X and a Z in our offense.

There are multiple sets, multiple formations, and players have to know the entire route tree.

Exactly. Personal are interchangeable in our offence.

The Dude 07-10-2017 07:25 PM

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I like corn on the Cobb.

Utah_Saint 07-10-2017 07:46 PM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754645)
No, I knew what I was talking about. Thomas is not a Z, he is a X. he cannot run downfield 40+ yards in two secs like the way Cooks, and now Ginn, can. In fact I have not seen Thomas make those kinds of catches unless it was against SF and LA. I am also taking hail marys here not run after catch which is what Thomas does. Deep threat is someone who can catch a long pass, not someone who can catch and keep going. Thomas wasn't the one hauling in 98 and 80 yard TDs last year.


Still blaming Cooks for a game that the offense has had a history of losing and struggling against that particular defense is nothing but an excuse to hate someone IMO.

Maybe you should contact PFF and let them know they are wrong about Thomas. Somehow, they got the impression that he's a pretty good deep threat.

https://pff.desk.com/customer/portal/emails/new

Edit: Please keep us informed on how that works out for ya.

RockyMountainSaint 07-11-2017 12:15 AM

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K Major 07-11-2017 08:25 AM

Re: Drew Brees calls Brandin Cooks trade “one of those unfortunate things”
 
This is off topic but Blazing Saddles is probably one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life. The genius of Mel Brooks and Richard Pryor (writing) was Epic.

Utah_Saint 07-11-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 754681)
This is off topic but Blazing Saddles is probably one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life. The genius of Mel Brooks and Richard Pryor (writing) was Epic.

I didn't know Richard Pryor wrote for Blazing Saddles. Thanks K Major. I love this site.

saintfan 07-11-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 754693)
I didn't know Richard Pryor wrote for Blazing Saddles. Thanks K Major. I love this site.

Yep - and was Brooks' first choice for Sheriff, but it sure worked out with Cleavon Little in that role.


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