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SmashMouth 04-29-2017 09:10 AM

We drafted 6 of Mayocks top 70
 
Marshon Lattimore #6 Drafted 11
Ryan Ramyczk #21 Drafted 32
Marques Williams #45 Drafted 42
Alvin Kamara #27 Drafted 67
Alex Anzalone #60 Drafted 76
Trey Hendrickson # 67 Drafted 103

That's a lot of talent to add on the first two days of the draft to our roster.

Kamara may play a huge role in the passing game, out of the backfield and in the slot. For all the talk Mccaffery got, there's likely not much difference between them.

Danno 04-29-2017 09:13 AM

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So far, A-.

Hell the more i read about the "injury prone" Anzalone the less I hate the pick.

Broken bones heal well and his shoulders appear to be fully healed before the broken arm.

dizzle88 04-29-2017 09:17 AM

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I like the guys we got, I just wish we had addressed D end more thoroughly.

I like the Trey Hendrickson pick, I just hope he doesn't turn out like Davis Tull.

Tull had a high sack count and didn't last a year with us.

RaginCajun83 04-29-2017 09:20 AM

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That looks great on paper but let's hold off anointing them until we see them on the field

|Mitch| 04-29-2017 09:32 AM

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New Orleans Saints
Draft picks: Marshon Lattimore (No. 11 overall), Ryan Ramczyk (No. 32 overall), Marcus Williams (No. 42 overall), Alvin Kamara (No. 67 overall), Alex Anzalone (No. 76 overall), Trey Hendrickson (No. 103 overall)
Day 1 grade: A-
Day 2 grade: A-
Overall grade: A-
The skinny: The Saints got a safety to own the back half in Marcus Williams, an athletic and hard-hitting player from Utah, and then they found running back Alvin Kamara waiting for them. They traded away a future second-round pick to get him, though. Not sure I love the future pick trade, though Kamara's a very good player. Alex Anzalone has great potential as a cover linebacker and blitzer, but he needs to stay healthy. New Orleans' pass rush got an upgrade with a hustling, powerful guy in Trey Hendrickson. He was a good value in the third round. Finding a Day 3 quarterback to eventually replace Drew Brees is a must! Lattimore is the best cover man in the draft, and a no-brainer at No. 11. Then, instead of continuing to bolster the defense, they improved the offensive line by picking up-and-coming left tackle Ryan Ramczyk. But should they have picked defensive end Jordan Willis? Maybe linebacker Raekwon McMillan from Ohio State? It will be interesting to see how they continue to build talent on that side of the ball.
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|Mitch| 04-29-2017 09:34 AM

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|Mitch| 04-29-2017 09:49 AM

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Ashley 04-29-2017 11:29 AM

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scratch this one
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frydaddy 04-29-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 748097)

I can't understand why in the hell any athlete who has any sort of desire to go pro would ever attend one of these military schools. Furthermore I can't understand why these schools even offer athletic programs. If your only reason for existence is to churn out officers then why would you want their attention to be divided? Either they need to shut down their athletic programs or they need to be willing to make exceptions for any of these athletes who want to try to turn pro. Especially if the kid gets drafted. Now this young man will probably never get another shot in the NFL. The odds are already stacked against you coming from such a program and now you have to do 2 years active duty before you can even think of football again. By then he won't even be an afterthought anymore.

Seer1 04-29-2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 748111)
I can't understand why in the hell any athlete who has any sort of desire to go pro would ever attend one of these military schools. Furthermore I can't understand why these schools even offer athletic programs. If your only reason for existence is to churn out officers then why would you want their attention to be divided? Either they need to shut down their athletic programs or they need to be willing to make exceptions for any of these athletes who want to try to turn pro. Especially if the kid gets drafted. Now this young man will probably never get another shot in the NFL. The odds are already stacked against you coming from such a program and now you have to do 2 years active duty before you can even think of football again. By then he won't even be an afterthought anymore.

They enter those programs knowing exactly what's expected of them. They aren't going to those schools to play sports. They're going there out of a sense of service and love of country. Playing sports is just a bonus. Athletics in that environment is incredibly important in building morale and team spirit. Very few players out of the academies will be drafted. Honor their love of country, their love of the game and their ability to actually have their priorities straight.

Beastmode 04-29-2017 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 748048)
I like the guys we got, I just wish we had addressed D end more thoroughly.

I like the Trey Hendrickson pick, I just hope he doesn't turn out like Davis Tull.

Tull had a high sack count and didn't last a year with us.

I felt the same and I think almost everyone felt better with a DE with that 11 as A but a CB is very close to that need, like 1a so mew...I'm fine with it.

I get the sense staff believes the DL is going to make us money as is and nothing available would have improved it much so we go with a DB. Interesting stat on Marshon, better for a QB to throw that ball in the ground that send it his way. If that materializes we are making the playoffs and some.

blackangold 04-29-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 748111)
I can't understand why in the hell any athlete who has any sort of desire to go pro would ever attend one of these military schools. Furthermore I can't understand why these schools even offer athletic programs. If your only reason for existence is to churn out officers then why would you want their attention to be divided? Either they need to shut down their athletic programs or they need to be willing to make exceptions for any of these athletes who want to try to turn pro. Especially if the kid gets drafted. Now this young man will probably never get another shot in the NFL. The odds are already stacked against you coming from such a program and now you have to do 2 years active duty before you can even think of football again. By then he won't even be an afterthought anymore.

This guy doesn't get it...

Not everything in life is about money.

frydaddy 04-29-2017 12:24 PM

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Just my opinion. Feel free to ignore it. Truth of the matter is, and not that I expect anyone to give a ****, but my life has gone to **** and I don't really have anything positive to say about anything. Judge me all you want, I don't really give a ****

blackangold 04-29-2017 12:24 PM

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Good, not great.

Only 2 immediate impact players picked up, the others will add depth and could be future starters. I think we left a few guys on the table at DE, but overall not bad.

Would be great to see some deal reached on Sheldon Richardson before the season. That move would easily put us over the top.

blackangold 04-29-2017 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 748126)
Just my opinion. Feel free to ignore it. Truth of the matter is, and not that I expect anyone to give a ****, but my life has gone to **** and I don't really have anything positive to say about anything. Judge me all you want, I don't really give a ****

Sorry to hear that brother.

God loves all his people, hope you find your way.

AsylumGuido 04-29-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 748126)
Just my opinion. Feel free to ignore it. Truth of the matter is, and not that I expect anyone to give a ****, but my life has gone to **** and I don't really have anything positive to say about anything. Judge me all you want, I don't really give a ****

Believe it or not, people do give a ****. Hang in there, fry.

Euphoria 04-29-2017 12:56 PM

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You don't have to love one or the other. A mans will to serve his country and yet have love for the game shouldn't be ignored. Hell you have football players leaving the NFL to go serve their country. Those guys are hero's and they serve with honor and dignity. If they want to play football then we should go out of our way to make it available to them.

Never say anything negative for guys who are willing to go out there and put their life on the line so you can sit there and watch a game.

neugey 04-29-2017 01:23 PM

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Holy cow, Mayock loves Kamara even more than Payton! I was actually not too upset about the pick because at least we kept our other 2 third-rounders. I still think we could use a little help at receiver and really think if we signed Anquan Boldin it would be a great fit.

K Major 04-29-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 748151)
Holy cow, Mayock loves Kamara even more than Payton! I was actually not too upset about the pick because at least we kept our other 2 third-rounders. I still think we could use a little help at receiver and really think if we signed Anquan Boldin it would be a great fit.

Boldin had his chance last year but obviously he wanted to play with Detroit instead.

See link below regarding Kamara and how dynamic he could potentially be in NO.
Alvin Kamara could bring an old element back to the Saints' offense | Saints | theadvocate.com

CheramieIII 04-29-2017 04:00 PM

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I love our draft. I do have big ?'s about that last pick. A few good QB's left?

AsylumGuido 04-29-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 748206)
I love our draft. I do have big ?'s about that last pick. A few good QB's left?

Why draft a QB when you don't need one for another four years? And, why not take the flyer on a DE who has tons of potential? If they didn't someone else would have in the remaining 50 picks or so.

neugey 04-29-2017 06:39 PM

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Yeah that last pick seems like a hail mary, but that's what 6th and 7th round picks are for.

WillSaints81 04-29-2017 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 748151)
Holy cow, Mayock loves Kamara even more than Payton! I was actually not too upset about the pick because at least we kept our other 2 third-rounders. I still think we could use a little help at receiver and really think if we signed Anquan Boldin it would be a great fit.

We don't need Boldin for the role he plays now.

Danno 04-29-2017 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 748278)
Yeah that last pick seems like a hail mary, but that's what 6th and 7th round picks are for.

Yep, low risk, high reward.

Likely a PS candidate.

Utah_Saint 04-30-2017 12:01 AM

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I respect Mayock a lot more than that big haired dude on ESPN.

Rell&Gold 04-30-2017 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 748048)
I like the guys we got, I just wish we had addressed D end more thoroughly.

I like the Trey Hendrickson pick, I just hope he doesn't turn out like Davis Tull.

Tull had a high sack count and didn't last a year with us.

That's what I'm afraid of. When I watch him that's who he reminds me of.

spkb25 04-30-2017 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 748058)

I really like this kid out of TN. I like the look of our backfield.

spkb25 04-30-2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 748209)
Why draft a QB when you don't need one for another four years? And, why not take the flyer on a DE who has tons of potential? If they didn't someone else would have in the remaining 50 picks or so.

Apparently we were going to draft Mahomes if Lat didn't fall so I'd say we know we need someone.

Seer1 04-30-2017 09:44 AM

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I'm left with a few impressions of the past couple of days. The first which is no way everyone's leaving here happy. There is no way we're grabbing every great player off the board. You'll always have to pass some over to pick one. Part of passing those over has to be a consideration of who we already have on the team. I think we did a good job of fixing the cracks.

The second is some folks thinking that we should consider the schools these kids are coming out of. Do they really want a winning team or a "home" team? This just astounds me.

The third impression I sort of wish I had was Forever's gif bumping into my eye.

The fourth impression was how much fun the draft is when watched with a bunch of like/half/drunk/catnipped minded fans. There's like four local whodats around here. I'm glad this forum's around to be able to make that happen.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 748321)
Apparently we were going to draft Mahomes if Lat didn't fall so I'd say we know we need someone.

Here is the story that you must be referring to ...

Mickey Loomis: Patrick Mahomes was only QB who would've tempted Saints in Round 1

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The Kansas City Chiefs traded up to the 10th pick in the draft Thursday night to pick Texas Tech quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

Part of the reason the Chiefs made the deal was to move ahead of the New Orleans Saints at No. 11, and apparently, the decision was justified.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said Friday his team rated cornerback Marshon Lattimore, the eventual 11th pick, higher than Mahomes, but the possibility of adding Mahomes would've been tempting if Lattimore didn't fall to No. 11.

"I would say it was possible, but once Lattimore was available to us, there wasn't much of a decision to make," Loomis said. "But, look, we did; we liked Patrick Mahomes a lot. I think that's a really good pick by Kansas City."

The Saints didn't have much of a decision to make because Mahomes was off the board by the time they were on the clock.

Loomis confirmed his approach to finding Drew Brees' eventual successor, too. Even though they don't want to reach for a long-term investment at the position, had the Saints found a quarterback they were enamored with, they wouldn't hesitate to use a first-round pick.

In the 2017 draft, the only quarterback who fit that profile was Mahomes, Loomis said.
Now exactly where in the whole article does it state that the Saints were going to select Mahomes if Lattimore wasn't there at #11? The fact is that it doesn't. It does state that Mahomes was the ONLY QB that would have tempted them. Yet, you state it as fact that he was going to be selected at #11. I'm sure they would have wanted to have others believe that to help push Lattimore down to them.

This absolutely drives me crazy. People constantly read things into pieces in the media that are simply not there. Being a temptation does not mean that it would have happened. If you found a wallet with $10,000 in it you would be tempted to keep it. Does that mean you would? No.

|Mitch| 04-30-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 748334)
If you found a wallet with $10,000 in it you would be tempted to keep it. Does that mean you would? No.

I don't know; I could use an extra 10,000 :rofl:

AsylumGuido 04-30-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 748338)
I don't know; I could use an extra 10,000 :rofl:

As could we all. But, as tempting as it might be, we all would know it is the right choice to make.

Rugby Saint II 04-30-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 748045)
So far, A-.

Hell the more i read about the "injury prone" Anzalone the less I hate the pick.

Broken bones heal well and his shoulders appear to be fully healed before the broken arm.

This was a good draft. I believe we loaded our roster with some talented players for our new coaches to work on.

SmashMouth 04-30-2017 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 748344)
This was a good draft. I believe we loaded our roster with some talented players for our new coaches to work on.

Cup Half Full.... I like it!

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jeanpierre 05-05-2017 07:36 AM

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Trey Hendrickson should be rated in the Top 50...

K Major 05-05-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 749000)
Trey Hendrickson should be rated in the Top 50...

Trey was only .01 second off Myles Garrett's 40 that Mayock went bonkers for, at the same size. Then he posted the fastest 10-yard split amongst all defensive lineman. Considering where we got him ....

Could be a steal of the draft. Keep an eye on him at camp.

triman 05-07-2017 10:07 AM

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Phenomenal upside for Hendrickson might be best third rd pick since Graham.
Gil Brandt and PFF high on this kid . I except big things!


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