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No Speedy then by the looks only 8 slots

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ANTONIO PIPKIN
TIFFIN D2 INDEPENDENTS

GRADE
4.86


6'1"
HEIGHT

32 1/4"
ARM LENGTH

225LBS.
WEIGHT

10"
HANDS

OVERVIEW
Pipkin was a FBS talent playing Division II football the past four years for Tiffin University in Ohio. He broke nearly all of the school's passing records during his career, even some for noted quarterback coach George Whitfield, who is in the school's athletics Hall of Fame. Pipkin was an honorable mention All-Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletic Conference selection as a true freshman (2,316 yards, 12 TD, 12 INT, 66.5 completion pct) and sophomore (2,863 yards, 19 TD, eight INT, 63.6 completion pct.; 556 yards, five TD rushing). He set the conference's record for total offense in 2015, receiving a second-team All-GLIAC nod (3,227 yards, 32 TD, six INT, 64.1 completion pct.; 729 yards, eight TD rushing). The Dragons had their most success under Pipkin in 2016, winning eight games as he was the GLIAC Player of the Year (2,534 passing yards, 25 TD, six INT, 64.9 completion pct.; 757 yards, seven TD).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Primary bread-winner for his offense over last two seasons. Has been able to produce with his arm and his legs. Quick ball-handler with an even quicker release on inside play-action from the gun. Can send the fades and seam throws on their way with a flick of the wrist when he's working quickly. Has legs to keep defenses honest on backside in zone-read. Has a great feel for exit routes from the pocket and can make defenses pay. Takes care of the ball. Unwilling to take unnecessary chances with the throws in traffic.

WEAKNESSES Short for the position. Feet bouncy and become antsy once he's unable to deliver to his second read. Pocket poise needs work. Looks for a quick exit rather than continuing to scan the field and deliver to receivers coming open. Drops eyes when pocket gets a little noisy around him. Anticipation is below average. Will hesitate to cut it loose when he has a safety on the ropes. Field side accuracy and short throw touch need work. Will need to clean up a myriad of footwork issues.

DRAFT PROJECTION UDFA

BOTTOM LINE Pipkin's level of competition will clearly be a strike against him unless he steps up and has a big week at the Senior Bowl. He's undersized with an average arm and needs to improve his accuracy and pocket poise. While he has proven to be dangerous with the feet, he doesn't have the physical traits that teams are usually willing to take shots on late in the draft. He may find himself fighting to catch a team's eye from the undrafted free agent list.

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Someone is getting cut


Just when i thought i could go to bed


Saints Nation Blog‏ @SaintsNationBlg 39s40 seconds ago

Saints Nation Blog Retweeted Jason Munz
If so, there might be some cuts coming. Roster count would be at 91Saints


Jason MunzVerified account @munzly
BREAKING: Former Southern Miss C Cameron Tom tells me he has agreed to a UFDA deal with the @Saints.

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C CAMERON TOM
SOUTHERN MISS CONFERENCE USA

GRADE
4.85

6'4"
HEIGHT

287LBS.
WEIGHT

OVERVIEW
This pivot man with a relatively slim build and two first names has been a staple on the Golden Eagles' line the past four seasons; quarterback Nick Mullens would be the first to tell you that his success is directly related to the play of his snapper and leader of the line. Tom has garnered first-team All-Conference USA recognition in each of the last two seasons, starting all 27 games in the middle. He lined up for all 12 games at center in 2014, receiving honorable mention notice, following a Conference USA All-Freshman season in which he started nine times at the right tackle spot.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Full-time, three-year starter. Has good lower body thickness. Patient blocker up to the second level. Climbs with a wide base trying maximize his ability to get a piece of darting linebackers. Takes quality angles to his blocks. Tries to sink and get as much bend and torque into his initial contact. Strikes with upward punch and is able to extends arms for more control. Able to withstand bull rush attempts and anchor down in pass pro.

WEAKNESSES Straight-legged with narrow base into angle blocks. Inconsistent working feet and hips into position to secure his move blocks. Plays with below average balance in space and through contact. Needs to add more mass and improve his core strength. Slow to adjust assignments when needed. Snap to step quickness is off. Poor reactions and awareness at times against twists.


DRAFT PROJECTION UDFA


BOTTOM LINE Tom looks bigger than his listed weight, so it will be interesting to see where he measures at the Shrine Game and combine. Tom has good arm length and decent anchor, but he's a very average run blocker who will need more technique work to lock in a roster spot.

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My work here is done

Bed before 1am for the first time in days

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thanks lee

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Pipkin went somewhere else. Here's the list:


The Sports Daily > The Saints Nation
SAINTS 2017 UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FREE AGENT CLASS
Posted by Andrew Juge on April 29, 2017
Here is the UDFA class of 2017, we will continue to update this list as more names come in:

Travin Dural, WR, LSU

Devaroe Lawrence, DT, Auburn

Andrew Lauderdale, T, New Hampshire

Sae Tautu, LB, BYU

Cameron Lee, G, Illinois State


Arthur Maulet, CB, Memphis

Collin Buchanan, T, Miami OH

Cameron Tom, C, Southern Miss

Ahmad Fulwood, WR, Florida

Chase Dominguez, LS, Utah

John Robinson-Woodgett, FB, UMass

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Annnd we got outa here without a QB. That's a sign like no other of the change in our FO!

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We can debate about these UDFAs all we want but they are all PS fodder.

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I actually see a few that could make the team. Impressive list.

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They've done that before with UDFA's. There are no strings attacked at this stage, so they will sign anyone. It's the impactful players that are all over the NFL that it would have been nice to have maybe one of them.

Dural is nice sign for a free agent. Tons of speed, but never was consistent at much of anything else. He could have put up better numbers if the QB play had been decent, but he still has a lot to work on at being an actual WR, and not just a guy who runs deep.

I see that someone had him with a 4.57 40 time. I don't know who did that or what was wrong with their stop watch, because he has run in the low 4.4's, and I believe even sub 4.4 before. He must not have been healthy when he ran that 4.57.

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Yeah, UDFA's never makes active rosters, much less contribute. Pierre Thomas and Lance Moore are surely proof of that.

Some guys make immediate impacts, while others might take a year or so, but there are diamonds in the rough among free agents.

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Sae Tautu, LB, BYU

This guy is interesting.

Pro day numbers:


•40-yard dash - 4.55 seconds
•225 bench - 19 reps
•Vertical jump - 38.5 inches
•Broad jump - 10-foot-6
•20-yard shuttle - 4.41 seconds
•60-yard shuttle - 11.60 seconds
•3-cone drill - 6.92 seconds

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Wasn't Snead? And Tommylee the Flea made the team last year. And wasn't Coleman? Hey there's lots of stuff out there. Sometimes they're like PT, sometimes they never make it to the 53. But sometimes they make the team and turn out to be solid!

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Come visit Utah.

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This is where we make our money. Drafts are our Manchester by the Sea. Depressing and hopeless. Bet we find a speedy WR that not only takes the top off but out plays Cooks. Then some nobody defender ends up making half the tackles in PS.

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Yeah Snead was, too. I didn't mention players like Coleman and Tommylee because they're kind of on the roster by default, right now. But yeah, it takes a short memory for someone to say that UDFA's are just practice squad fodder. They have just as much chance of making the team as a late round pick. You gotta get a little lucky, but there are good one's out there.

I always prefer our UDFA class over our picks in the 5th through 7th rounds (with some exceptions, obviously). They draft guys who either barely played, or have some kind of major issues in the late rounds, and then suddenly, when the draft is over, they find productive college players. I've always believed in production over "upside", unless the player with upside has actually demonstrated an ability on the field and not just gone to the combine and run all kinds of pointless drills, and wowed scouts, while having been extremely lackluster on the field.

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UDFA

I’Tavius Mathers RB/KR Middle Tenn St. 5107 203 4.41
Jamari Staples, WR/KR Louisville 6027 195 4.51 #2 rSr
Detroit - Michael Rector WR Stanford 6004 193 4.42 #3 rSr
Dallas - Blake Jarwin TE Oklahoma St. 6050 244 4.76 #47 rSr
Auclair, Antony TE 6'6" 254 Laval (Canada)

OL
Jessamen Dunker OG Tenn St 6042 318 4.98 #66 rSr.
Aviante Collins OG TCU 6042 295 4.81 #69 rSr
Gavin Andrews OG/C Oregon St. 6047 339 5.25 #62 rSr
Detroit - Storm Norton, OT, Toledo 6075 308 5.18 #74 rSr
Steven Moore ROT/LOT California 6052 305 5.31 #64 rSr
Daniel Brunskill OT/TE/ILB San Diego State 6051 270 4.88 rSr #71

DL
Josh Toupu DT Colorado 6011 325 5.22 #55 rSr
Ralph Green III DT Indiana 6036 320 5.14 #93 rSr
Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga 6030 274 4.86 #93 rSr

LB
Jimmy Gilbert OLB Colorado 6036 225 4.74 #98 Sr
Patriots - Langi Harvey ILB/SLB/FB BYU 6015 252 4.62 #21 rSr

DB
Browns - Channing Stribling CB/FS Michigan 6011 176 4.57 #8 Sr
Jeremy Cutrer CB/FS Middle Tennesse 6011 170 4.49 #8 Sr
David Jones FS/SS/KR Richmond 6015 210 4.53 #13 rSr
Browns - Kai Nacua, FS/SS, BYU 6005 209 4.58 #12 Sr
Patriots - Jason Thompson, FS, Utah 6014 210 4.45 #21 rSr

:confused:not one of my better years

Still got camp invites :razz:

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I think this guy makes the team, Saints always do well with undrafted WR's.

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Kenny Stills VS Willie Snead YAC Ranking 2016
No Rec Rec Yd YAC YAC Per Rec
30 Willie Snead NO WR 72 895 383 5.3
135 Kenny Stills MIA WR 42 726 179 4.3

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PT and Lance Moore were picked up when? Who have we gotten that's been a contributor to the team since Ireland came on? Ireland is not good at picking the UDFAs like Pace and Reese were. We traded UDFA value for Draft value.

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See my most recent post here and you will see what I mean. Snead was not UDFA for us, he was a brown first.

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Stills plays for Miami as the number three receiver and actually he's better than Snead.

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None of the UDFA olinemen we picked up have turned out to be anything special. Wide receivers? TL Lewis has hardly took a snap and take a closer look you will see pre-season performances are back to being disguised in the league. Pre-season is giving nothing away now with teams game planning for regular season matchups. A good example was when DMurray ran all over Oakland in preseason only to have a tougher game vs them in regular season. Last year a lot of our pre-season stars were regular season duds, which included Devante Harris and Kruger.

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How so? Stills had 440 yards in 2015(first year with dolphins) and three touchdowns, Snead had 984 yards and three touchdowns the same year...

Stills had 726 yards and 9 touchdowns in 2016, while Snead had 895 yards and 4 touchdowns...

Snead has had a better career with Drew than Stills had with Drew; if you want to compare each in the same offense...

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Except Snead has better stats than Stills.....

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I wish some would research a little first before making witless arguments...

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It's not like it would take much digging, the stats are posted at the top of this page! Lol

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OMG.... can't believe we signed an LSU player! All kidding aside, I do truly hope he can make it. As previously said, QB play at LSU has been spotty of late.

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Will(insert team name here)81 has made a career here at B&G making witless posts.

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I think this guy could be an absolute steal, plus with Curtis Johnson being back, the sky is the limit.

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He'll need some serious work, but I think we have the coach that can do just that.

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I like Dural WAY more than Dupre. IMO..Dupre never lived up to expectations. I know the QB play was mostly garbage but his desire to make a play was very lacking. We got the better of the two imo.

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He has already said he's not really a Saints fan. He just follows the team for stats and because he uses Brees in his fantasy league .

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Who cares when they were signed, or where? These are guys that went undrafted and made an impact in this league. The point couldn't be simpler. There ARE diamonds in the rough, and you just have to hit on one every now and then. What, do you expect an 80% success rate? 50%?

Of course you aren't going to strike gold every single year. But you can't just say they're all "PS fodder", as if none of them have any chance. History proves you wrong.

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Stills was accurate in 2014. Brees didn't throw as much to Stills because Graham was on the team and Colston was on the team. Further, Stills was not traded because of his play because if you actually look at his game log stats for that year, he hardly missed a target.