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SmashMouth 05-18-2017 07:33 AM

Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
I was part of a dynamic, balanced Saints offense in 2009, the season in which the franchise won its first-ever Super Bowl title. Before suffering a season-ending knee injury in late October, I shared the backfield with Pierre Thomas, Reggie Bush and Mike Bell. Oh, and someone named Drew Brees was under center.

An in-depth look at that championship season reveals that Payton led the most balanced offensive unit of his tenure in New Orleans, running the ball on 45 percent of snaps and passing 55 percent of the time. This was the best version of the Saints' offense, with the play calling of Payton, the execution of Brees and the diversity of the backfield. Some might argue the Saints were better statistically in 2011, but we could do anything at any time to any defense in '09. And winning the Lombardi Trophy proved it. Whereas the '11 team couldn't come from behind in the Divisional Round, ending its chances at the franchise's second title two years later.

When you look at the way Payton's 2017 offense has been built this offseason, it's clear the blueprint is very similar to the '09 unit -- but this time, there's a first-ballot Hall of Fame-caliber back in the mix. Adrian Peterson, the best running back of the last decade, has joined Mark Ingram in a ground game that ranked 16th in the league a year ago. New Orleans also added promising Tennessee product Alvin Kamara in last month's draft, creating a new three-headed monster to line up behind Brees, who led the league's No. 1 total offense and passing offense in 2016.

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Beastmode 05-18-2017 08:10 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Backfield looks good on paper, better than most teams. Some concerns but nothing major. I would take this crew over any in Division.

blackangold 05-18-2017 08:17 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
2011 team was better offensively. They also didn't have the defense and special teams scoring TDs and getting TOs in 2011 like they did in 2009.

Crusader 05-18-2017 08:34 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Good read. Evans has turned in to one of the better writers on NFL.com.

saintsfan1976 05-18-2017 08:40 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
It's all about the O line.

rezburna 05-18-2017 09:04 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 750149)
It's all about the O line.

I'm curious to see what the Saints will look like this year in general, but the offensive line is an area of emphasis. Will Peat make a 3rd year leap at Guard? Will Armstead stay healthy? Will the younger Ramczyk be the player to finally supplant Strief? How will Unger look coming off of his injury? Is Larry Warford the next Jahri Evans? Our offensive line is one huge question mark at each and every position.

SaintFanInATLHELL 05-18-2017 09:40 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 750153)
I'm curious to see what the Saints will look like this year in general, but the offensive line is an area of emphasis. Will Peat make a 3rd year leap at Guard? Will Armstead stay healthy? Will the younger Ramczyk be the player to finally supplant Strief? How will Unger look coming off of his injury? Is Larry Warford the next Jahri Evans? Our offensive line is one huge question mark at each and every position.

Hmm. Deja Vu?

https://68.media.tumblr.com/e2fefa65...0m9to1_500.gif

I remember there being hundreds of posts about the O-line last offseason. How exactly did that turn out during the season?

I'm not getting dragged into this quagmire again...

SFIAH

Rugby Saint II 05-18-2017 10:22 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 750159)
Hmm. Deja Vu?

https://68.media.tumblr.com/e2fefa65...0m9to1_500.gif

I remember there being hundreds of posts about the O-line last offseason. How exactly did that turn out during the season?

I'm not getting dragged into this quagmire again...

SFIAH

We were terrible in preseason before Jahri got cut and slipped right back into the lineup to solidify our line.

jnormand 05-18-2017 10:48 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
So he basically says that Peterson will see more time on the field than Ingram.

He predicts Peterson will get 45-50 snaps to Ingram's 25-30 snaps.

What do you guys think? I tend to think those numbers will be reversed for the two RBs, mostly due to Ingram's versatility, but who knows?

WillSaints81 05-18-2017 11:31 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 750159)
Hmm. Deja Vu?

https://68.media.tumblr.com/e2fefa65...0m9to1_500.gif

I remember there being hundreds of posts about the O-line last offseason. How exactly did that turn out during the season?

I'm not getting dragged into this quagmire again...

SFIAH

If we didn't bring Evans back the RG position would have been bad. We got lucky he stayed healthy. I'm not sure Warford is an upgrade.

rezburna 05-18-2017 11:42 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 750173)
So he basically says that Peterson will see more time on the field than Ingram.

He predicts Peterson will get 45-50 snaps to Ingram's 25-30 snaps.

What do you guys think? I tend to think those numbers will be reversed for the two RBs, mostly due to Ingram's versatility, but who knows?

I think he's right. There's no way Ingram beats out a healthy AD even at 32 years old.

Seer1 05-18-2017 11:56 AM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 750173)
So he basically says that Peterson will see more time on the field than Ingram.

He predicts Peterson will get 45-50 snaps to Ingram's 25-30 snaps.

What do you guys think? I tend to think those numbers will be reversed for the two RBs, mostly due to Ingram's versatility, but who knows?

Depends on how well he can catch the ball. I'm thinking it'll be more 50-50 due to Mark's ability to do just that. I'm hoping it doesn't turn into a Graham type situation where every time Peterson's on the field, he gets the ball.

spkb25 05-18-2017 03:38 PM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 750149)
It's all about the O line.

yep, and the oline looks best it has been in years for us.

K Major 05-18-2017 03:43 PM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Not to get off track but good thing McMahon is gone because special teams was a BIG problem in 2016. Cost us at least 2, 3 WINS.

The O line is low on my list of concerns.

neugey 05-18-2017 05:38 PM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
I see what Heath is saying and he is backing it up with stats, but we may have been more balanced simply because of the buttload of turnovers the D got us in our championship year. More likely to run the ball when you start out at the opponents 30 or 40 yard line!

ScottF 05-18-2017 05:57 PM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 750173)
So he basically says that Peterson will see more time on the field than Ingram.

He predicts Peterson will get 45-50 snaps to Ingram's 25-30 snaps.

What do you guys think? I tend to think those numbers will be reversed for the two RBs, mostly due to Ingram's versatility, but who knows?

was wondering about that as well... a lot of times writers don't write their own headlines.
If Ingram I'm not happy to see "Peterson-led"

AsylumGuido 05-18-2017 06:00 PM

Re: Saints seek balance with diverse, Adrian Peterson-led backfield
 
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 750221)
was wondering about that as well... a lot of times writers don't write their own headlines.
If Ingram I'm not happy to see "Peterson-led"

I'm not so sure about that. Recently Ingram has stated about the addition of Peterson that his main focus is winning it all. He said he'll accept his role as every other player. The team seems to be coming into this season with a positive, cooperative mindset.


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