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SmashMouth 06-15-2017 09:55 AM

Saints rookie Marshon Lattimore's minicamp performance draws comparison to Kendrick Lamar
 
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New Orleans Saints rookie cornerback Marshon Lattimore lined up at right cornerback Wednesday during a team-related drill at mandatory minicamp and found himself locked up against wide receiver Michael Thomas.

At the snap of the ball, Thomas took off down the left sideline and appeared to have a step on the young defender.

http://image.nola.com/home/nola-medi...795-mmmain.jpg

Quarterback Drew Brees spotted Thomas and unleashed a deep pass to his wide receiver, but Lattimore quickly closed the gap before leaping to knock the ball away as both players fell to the ground.

The play drew a loud roar from the fans in attendance, but the Saints' first-round pick out of Ohio State wasn't finished.

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AsylumGuido 06-15-2017 10:04 AM

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This defense is going to surprise those that are too lazy to learn of all the changes. Talking heads are still thinking they are the same squad as last season with the same coaching as last season. I see great potential for major improvement on all three levels of the defense. That can dramatically affect the defense overall. This can become a strength for the Saints, rather than a huge weakness.

dam1953 06-15-2017 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 752586)
This defense is going to surprise those that are too lazy to learn of all the changes. Talking heads are still thinking they are the same squad as last season with the same coaching as last season. I see great potential for major improvement on all three levels of the defense. That can dramatically affect the defense overall. This can become a strength for the Saints, rather than a huge weakness.

So long as we stay healthy! There appears to be a definite upgrade in LB and DB talent but we still need consistent pressure from the DL.

AsylumGuido 06-15-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 752588)
So long as we stay healthy! There appears to be a definite upgrade in LB and DB talent but we still need consistent pressure from the DL.

Hopefully improved coverage will buy the DL that extra second that will turn what was near the top of the league in QB hits into sacks and turnovers.

rezburna 06-15-2017 10:28 AM

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Sean Payton with the hip hop reference.

K Major 06-15-2017 10:39 AM

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Good coaching will go a long way in his development. The sky is the limit.

Lattimore was a steal @ #11.

SmashMouth 06-15-2017 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 752586)
This defense is going to surprise those that are too lazy to learn of all the changes. Talking heads are still thinking they are the same squad as last season with the same coaching as last season. I see great potential for major improvement on all three levels of the defense. That can dramatically affect the defense overall. This can become a strength for the Saints, rather than a huge weakness.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 752593)
Good coaching will go a long way in his development. The sky is the limit.

Lattimore was a steal @ #11.

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K Major 06-15-2017 11:09 AM

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LOL Smash ...

I don't think the Saints FO have ever drafted a young kid like Lattimore at the position. The comparisons range from Janoris Jenkins, Vontea Davis to Patrick Peterson. I'm expecting to see the impact in coverage EARLY & QB's stay away from his side of the field. I'm so glad we didn't pick Mahomes. Marcus just feels like the right pick.

Blue chip talent with all the tools. Bring it.

Rugby Saint II 06-15-2017 12:31 PM

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It's nice to have an eye for talent on the defensive side of the ball......it's even nicer when players fall into your lap. :p

foreverfan 06-15-2017 09:01 PM

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jeanpierre 06-15-2017 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 752586)
This defense is going to surprise those that are too lazy to learn of all the changes. Talking heads are still thinking they are the same squad as last season with the same coaching as last season. I see great potential for major improvement on all three levels of the defense. That can dramatically affect the defense overall. This can become a strength for the Saints, rather than a huge weakness.

My BF manages a construction supply store and I was arguing with his driver who I've know for 30 years from when we played AAU ball as kids...

He's always been a big Dallas fan and hated on the Saints...

I made him this bet - the Saints would geaux 12-4, Dallas would geaux 13-3; Dallas will lose in the Divisional Playoff game with Home field advantage and that either the Saints or Packers, maybe the Seahawks if they can fix their offensive line, would be the NFC reps in the Superbowl...

He gave his usual criticisms of the Saints (same since we were kids); but I was surprised how little he knew of the new coaching hires, the roster additions...

Like I told him and telling all of you who aren't having some of the bandwagon punch...

This is the best Saints Defensive Coaching Staff since the Mora days when we had Steve Sidwell, Vic Fangio, Dom Capers and John Pease...

Nielsen, Nolan, Glenn is a special group Saints fans and they're gonna have the guys flying all over the place - the players have just gotta catch those damn interceptions...

AsylumGuido 06-15-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 752721)
My BF manages a construction supply store and I was arguing with his driver who I've know for 30 years from when we played AAU ball as kids...

He's a big Dallas fan and I made him this bet - the Saints would geaux 12-4, Dallas would geaux 13-3; Dallas will lose in the Divisional Playoff game with Home field advantage and that either the Saints or Packers, maybe the Seahawks, would be the NFC reps in the Superbowl...

He gave his usual criticisms of the Saints (same since we were kids); but I was surprised how little he knew of the new coaching hires...

Telling all of you; this is the best Saints Defensive Coaching Staff since the Mora days when we had Steve Sidwell, Vic Fangio, Dom Capers and John Pease...

Nielsen, Nolan, Glenn is a special group Saints fans...

Right there with you, JP!

hagan714 06-16-2017 05:31 AM

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stay healthy and all is good

darksoul35 06-16-2017 06:58 AM

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That's all I hear from the so called experts is how bad our defense was last year. I never hear them talk about the guys we drafted or the FA we added or the fact that over half of our defense was injured last year. I haven't been this excited about our team in a long time.

SaintFanInATLHELL 06-16-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 752758)
That's all I hear from the so called experts is how bad our defense was last year. I never hear them talk about the guys we drafted or the FA we added or the fact that over half of our defense was injured last year. I haven't been this excited about our team in a long time.

One has to understand the national media filters for the NFL. Teams fall into one of 4 buckets:

1. Teams in the Northeast corridor. This includes all of the NFC and AFC East.
2. Final 4 teams from the last year or two.
3. Teams with spectacular single players. Derek Carr is probably the poster child for this category this year.
4. The also rans.

The Saints have drifted between groups 3 and 4 in recent years. Brees does enough to pull them up to category 3 sometimes. Structurally we'll never qualify for category 1, which gets the bulk of the coverage. One can sit through a 90 minute NFL Live on ESPN or 60 minutes of and learn absolutely everything about the Giants, Cowboys, Redskins, Jets, Patriots, and the like. But fans of categories 3 and 4 just get dribbles.

BTW the Saints will be a solid 3 this year. One reason: Adrian Peterson. We know that he's the B back in an offensive system that does RB by committee and commits to the run once or so in a month of Sundays. But the 10 year track record of a HOF RB means that every national Saints reference this year will be about him.

It's interesting that the media knows about the productivity churn in the NFL. Analyists can spout of the fact that nearly half the playoff teams and half the division winners change each and every year. It happens because of the types of changes we have made this year. But teams in categories 3 and 4 simply do not get enough air time, or analytics time to get predictions that map to the churn that happens.

So you'll see the same trite lines about Brees passing for 5000, the defense being terrible, and can Peterson singlehandedly turn around the franchise. Along with the same trite lines about the rest of the NFC South. Lots of 'clowns and kittykat coverage because they are both in category 2 for example.

The lesson to learn is to ignore it because none of the national media have an investment in the Saints.

SFIAH

foreverfan 06-16-2017 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 752721)
My BF manages a construction supply store and I was arguing with his driver who I've know for 30 years from when we played AAU ball as kids...

He's always been a big Dallas fan and hated on the Saints...

I made him this bet - the Saints would geaux 12-4, Dallas would geaux 13-3; Dallas will lose in the Divisional Playoff game with Home field advantage and that either the Saints or Packers, maybe the Seahawks if they can fix their offensive line, would be the NFC reps in the Superbowl...

He gave his usual criticisms of the Saints (same since we were kids); but I was surprised how little he knew of the new coaching hires, the roster additions...

Like I told him and telling all of you who aren't having some of the bandwagon punch...

This is the best Saints Defensive Coaching Staff since the Mora days when we had Steve Sidwell, Vic Fangio, Dom Capers and John Pease...

Nielsen, Nolan, Glenn is a special group Saints fans and they're gonna have the guys flying all over the place - the players have just gotta catch those damn interceptions...


No other way to go but with...


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foreverfan 06-16-2017 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 752763)
One has to understand the national media filters for the NFL. Teams fall into one of 4 buckets:

1. Teams in the Northeast corridor. This includes all of the NFC and AFC East.

Enough said right there....

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The Dude 06-16-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 752586)
This defense is going to surprise those that are too lazy to learn of all the changes. Talking heads are still thinking they are the same squad as last season with the same coaching as last season. I see great potential for major improvement on all three levels of the defense. That can dramatically affect the defense overall. This can become a strength for the Saints, rather than a huge weakness.

I think we will see a significant improvement on defense. I just hope it's enough to compensate for the fact Brees play will drop off due to age.


Our defense could take 10 steps forward but it wouldn't matter if our offense takes several steps back.

AsylumGuido 06-16-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 752775)
I think we will see a significant improvement on defense. I just hope it's enough to compensate for the fact Brees play will drop off due to age.


Our defense could take 10 steps forward but it wouldn't matter if our offense takes several steps back.

People have been predicting that Brees' play will drop off for years. Those people are fools. There is no indication whatsoever that Brees is anywhere close to a decline. The fact that you are even suggesting this verifies your tendency to expect the worst even when there is no indication that the worst is possible.

I do agree that eventually Brees play will drop of due to age, but at the rate it is trending that will be more likely to come at his personally predicted 45 rather than this season.

Once again, a totally negative post.

:rolleyes:

The Dude 06-16-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 752777)
People have been predicting that Brees' play will drop off for years. Those people are fools. There is no indication whatsoever that Brees is anywhere close to a decline. The fact that you are even suggesting this verifies your tendency to expect the worst even when there is no indication that the worst is possible.

I do agree that eventually Brees play will drop of due to age, but at the rate it is trending that will be more likely to come at his personally predicted 45 rather than this season.

Once again, a totally negative post.

:rolleyes:

That part was actually a deliberate provocation.

The Dude 06-16-2017 01:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 752777)
People have been predicting that Brees' play will drop off for years. Those people are fools. There is no indication whatsoever that Brees is anywhere close to a decline. The fact that you are even suggesting this verifies your tendency to expect the worst even when there is no indication that the worst is possible.

I do agree that eventually Brees play will drop of due to age, but at the rate it is trending that will be more likely to come at his personally predicted 45 rather than this season.

Once again, a totally negative post.

:rolleyes:

That part was actually a deliberate provocation.

The Dude 06-16-2017 01:19 PM

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I did my due diligence on this one. I paused the TV every play last year and put a tape measure to the screen and measured the distance between point A. Drews arm during release and point B where the ball went. He was indeed off 1/16 of an inch from where I think it probably was the year before.

Seer1 06-16-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 752804)
I did my due diligence on this one. I paused the TV every play last year and put a tape measure to the screen and measured the distance between point A. Drews arm during release and point B where the ball went. He was indeed off 1/16 of an inch from where I think it probably was the year before.

:-) What sized screen?

The Dude 06-16-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 752813)
:-) What sized screen?

Good question. To ensure accuracy I took measurements on 4 different sized TV's. I developed an equation (very technical much to discuss in laymen terms) using a 30" as my control subject. The sum average is where I got 1/16 an inch. There are some decimals in there but I didn't want to make it to complicated.

FinSaint 06-16-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 752804)
I paused the TV every play last year and put a tape measure to the screen and measured the distance between point A. Drews arm during release and point B where the ball went.


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:clown:

Seer1 06-16-2017 11:00 PM

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Now is that a male 1/16"? The formula of that I believe is M equals 1.75 times F expectations.....

Cruize 06-17-2017 06:14 AM

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It's all about health. But, there are several real upgrades on defense.

WillSaints81 06-17-2017 08:47 AM

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Kendrick Lamar? I can't.

hagan714 06-17-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 752869)
Kendrick Lamar? I can't.

I will Hatty Lamar on deck :p

skymike 06-18-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 752591)
Sean Payton with the hip hop reference.

Thank you. I was wondering who Kendrick Lamar is. Now I can guess he's
some rapper.

SmashMouth 06-18-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 752835)
Good question. To ensure accuracy I took measurements on 4 different sized TV's. I developed an equation (very technical much to discuss in laymen terms) using a 30" as my control subject. The sum average is where I got 1/16 an inch. There are some decimals in there but I didn't want to make it to complicated.

https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-cont...h6B6BF3A5.jpeg

AsylumGuido 06-18-2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 752930)
Thank you. I was wondering who Kendrick Lamar is. Now I can guess he's
some rapper.

Nothing you spin.


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