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WillSaints81 07-10-2017 09:23 PM

The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
I just want all these questions answered......

1.Has the defense become top 20 or a turnover-generating one?

2.Will the oline be better than last year?

3.If AP is not starting, will he be able to break off massive runs with reduced volume?

4.Will Ingram actually start to beat good run defenses like the elites do?

5.Will the adage apply that a defense that gives short fields will cut down on Brees' poor throws and actually improve points?

6.Will Lutz be in a situation to have to kick more FGs than he is able to if the defense improves but only FG attempts result?

7.If the defense is good, does the offense release hidden plays that would have been effective last year?

Overall, the two big things on my mind is 1.Ingram not making or making AP look stupid as a backup and 2.the defense giving short fields actually paying off.

neugey 07-10-2017 09:51 PM

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#7 is kind of weird, but this actually isn't a bad post.

The Dude 07-10-2017 10:48 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
I don't hold up much hope for this year. Division is toughest in football and like us, have taken steps to improve too. 7/9-9/7 is about what I feel like we will see.

JPPT1974 07-10-2017 11:15 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Yeah as really they need to eye on the Falcons first. And Buccaneers second as really they are the X factor.

RockyMountainSaint 07-11-2017 12:01 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
#8


ChrisXVI 07-11-2017 06:10 AM

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Not a bad post at all Will! Should warrant some pretty good discussion. I can't really say anything for certain though until after training camp and maybe even the third preseason game. If our CB's start dropping like flies again we could end up starting Arthur Maulet and some street free agent like Alterraun Verner just like last season with Crawley/Moore.

SmashMouth 07-11-2017 06:41 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 754670)
I don't hold up much hope for this year. Division is toughest in football and like us, have taken steps to improve too. 7/9-9/7 is about what I feel like we will see.

It's our turn!!! :bng:

foreverfan 07-11-2017 08:33 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 754672)


Do any of you care what I think? I knew you did...

Ok then... here is my answer to Question to #8:

Where is the white women? :google:

OFF-SEASON QUESTION #69:
Which white woman do you like better #1, #2, #3, #4...?

Anybody that doesn't answer this question will have to report to Smashmouth's tent
at midnight at the B&G Camping Trip. :shock: :censored: :moon: :bart:


http://acidcow.com/pics/20140528/bea...y_girls_59.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/IC67B7SIGR41W/giphy.gif
https://68.media.tumblr.com/bcdfa409...ulxxoo_540.gif
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-conte...s-jiggling.gif

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-11-2017 11:30 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Good questions for the most part. I'll take a crack at them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754667)
I just want all these questions answered......

1.Has the defense become top 20 or a turnover-generating one?

Depends on how you measure. My only metric is points allowed. Last year the defense was up near 28 PPG. That needs to be knocked down by a TD. League average was a shade over 22 PPG last year. That's the target. Past history has shown that the Payton Saints are successful when the team gives up 350 points or less during the season.

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2.Will the oline be better than last year?

3.If AP is not starting, will he be able to break off massive runs with reduced volume?
My feeling is that neither is as important as the offense delivering at crunch time. It's a feeling that oppose the stats. The Saints last year were 3rd in the league in both number and percentage of 3 and out drives (28 drives for a 15% total). Also once again the team was #1 in 3rd down percentage at 48%. But it just felt like several times when the offense needed 2 yards to win the game, that it was challenging. An interesting question is who is Payton going to line up in the backfield in those situations?

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4.Will Ingram actually start to beat good run defenses like the elites do?
It'll be interesting to watch. Peterson has spent his entire career going up against defenses that were designed to stop him. Ingram never has. It's also unclear how or when the Saints offense will transform to power football. I look forward to seeing ball deflating drives in the 4th quarter when everyone knows we're running the ball and the offense is successful in doing so.

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5.Will the adage apply that a defense that gives short fields will cut down on Brees' poor throws and actually improve points?
I'm not sure that these two have a direct correlation. The more direct correlation seems to be trying to match points with teams. Unfortunately I think it happens on both ends of the point scale. The offense takes more chances and makes more mistakes when they are behind whether or not it's a game in the 30's or a game in the teens.

Maybe it's the fact that turnovers and short fields often leads to a lead. And frankly every facet of the Saints seems to play better with a lead.
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6.Will Lutz be in a situation to have to kick more FGs than he is able to if the defense improves but only FG attempts result?

7.If the defense is good, does the offense release hidden plays that would have been effective last year?
Not sure about either of these, Personally I'd like to see Lutz being overworked kicking 33 yd extra points.

As for the last one you can bet that Payton has drawn up plays we haven't seen before. I mean imagine Ingram and Peterson in the backfield with Kamara in the slot...

SFIAH

Rugby Saint II 07-11-2017 11:46 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 754682)

Do any of you care what I think? I knew you did...

Ok then... here is my answer to Question to #8:

Where is the white women? :google:

OFF-SEASON QUESTION #69:
Which white woman do you like better #1, #2, #3, #4...?

Anybody that doesn't answer this question will have to report to Smashmouth's tent
at midnight at the B&G Camping Trip. :shock: :censored: :moon: :bart:


http://acidcow.com/pics/20140528/bea...y_girls_59.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/IC67B7SIGR41W/giphy.gif
https://68.media.tumblr.com/bcdfa409...ulxxoo_540.gif
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-conte...s-jiggling.gif

I'll take All Of The Above............if it's not an option then I'm taking number One!!!

neugey 07-11-2017 12:16 PM

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#1 from the White Women list

|Mitch| 07-11-2017 12:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 754682)
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Which white woman do you like better #1, #2, #3, #4...?
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-conte...s-jiggling.gif

I like this one!

|Mitch| 07-11-2017 12:41 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754667)

5.Will the adage apply that a defense that gives short fields will cut down on Brees' poor throws and actually improve points?

7.If the defense is good, does the offense release hidden plays that would have been effective last year?

Overall, the two big things on my mind is 1.Ingram not making or making AP look stupid as a backup and 2.the defense giving short fields actually paying off.

My thinking is that the offense will help support the defense rather than vice-versa...

It's going to be hard for defenses to key in on any one facet of the offense; You have AP/Ingram who should both be running well, defenses will have to stack the box more than just keying in on the pass. Than that opens up play-action and then when all else fails you have Kamara who should beast as the wild card like Sproles/Bush did...

K Major 07-11-2017 01:49 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754667)

1.Has the defense become top 20 or a turnover-generating one?

^^^^^^^ This is most important for me. Take-aways /points off turnover ratio & getting off the field on 3rd down. Fix the defense & the Saints are going places in 2017.

BusDriver 07-11-2017 01:59 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
I pick Whitey #3.

Rugby Saint II 07-12-2017 12:36 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 754709)
^^^^^^^ This is most important for me. Take-aways /points off turnover ratio & getting off the field on 3rd down. Fix the defense & the Saints are going places in 2017.

That's enough with the know it all football discussion............post some boobs......or stupid cat stuff if you prefer. ;)

saintfan 07-12-2017 03:18 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
#1. My oh my (oh my)

ChrisXVI 07-12-2017 04:28 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 754709)
^^^^^^^ This is most important for me. Take-aways /points off turnover ratio & getting off the field on 3rd down. Fix the defense & the Saints are going places in 2017.

Our 2009 defense... 25th in total yards, but 2nd in turnovers. Huge importance.

spkb25 07-12-2017 04:34 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
I am going to hold off until I see what w elook like in preseason. I am not a big believer in preseason setting the season other than if we look completely inept...like last year.

The Dude 07-12-2017 10:52 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 754667)
I just want all these questions answered......

1.Has the defense become top 20 or a turnover-generating one?

2.Will the oline be better than last year?

3.If AP is not starting, will he be able to break off massive runs with reduced volume?

4.Will Ingram actually start to beat good run defenses like the elites do?

5.Will the adage apply that a defense that gives short fields will cut down on Brees' poor throws and actually improve points?

6.Will Lutz be in a situation to have to kick more FGs than he is able to if the defense improves but only FG attempts result?

7.If the defense is good, does the offense release hidden plays that would have been effective last year?

Overall, the two big things on my mind is 1.Ingram not making or making AP look stupid as a backup and 2.the defense giving short fields actually paying off.

I just want all these questions answered......

1.Has the defense become top 20 or a turnover-generating one? -
Maybe, closer to 20.

2.Will the oline be better than last year?

Depends on Unger. Armstead is never healthy anyway and we have gotten away with it. Andrus should be better. I don't see there being much of a drop off unless Ungers injury lingers

3.If AP is not starting, will he be able to break off massive runs with reduced volume?

That's the obvious plan. I don't think anyone expects him to start. All depends on his health.

4.Will Ingram actually start to beat good run defenses like the elites do?
Depends on APs health. By himself I think he's produced as much as he is going to. Which is pretty damn good when healthy. Agin it depends on health.

5.Will the adage apply that a defense that gives short fields will cut down on Brees' poor throws and actually improve points?

I've never heard of a defense improving a QBs throw. Short fields lead to more points. I would love to hear which other QBs you think have less "poor throws?" Dumbass

6.Will Lutz be in a situation to have to kick more FGs than he is able to if the defense improves but only FG attempts result?
Depends on field positiin and blocking . Most misses weren't all his fault. He seemed to learn to put ball higher.

7.If the defense is good, does the offense release hidden plays that would have been effective last year?

More so with a running game. He will have more options if both AP and Ingram are healthy. We will keep a lead by running up the gut to close games.

Overall, the two big things on my mind is 1.Ingram not making or making AP look stupid as a backup and 2.the defense giving short fields actually paying off. Short fields always pay off when you have a QB and offense like we do that can score pretty much on any play.

Still an idiot but I sense you may have gone outside of moms basement for 15 min or so to make groceries for her. Sunlight is good for you.

saintsfan1976 07-13-2017 04:48 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Yes, I'm ready for football to start tomorrow too.

CheramieIII 07-13-2017 05:25 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Like tomorrow!

Seer1 07-13-2017 08:20 AM

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Today!

K Major 07-13-2017 08:27 AM

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foreverfan 07-13-2017 08:58 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 754682)

Do any of you care what I think? I knew you did...

Ok then... here is my answer to Question to #8:

Where is the white women? :google:

OFF-SEASON QUESTION #69:
Which white woman do you like better #1, #2, #3, #4...?

Anybody that doesn't answer this question will have to report to Smashmouth's tent
at midnight at the B&G Camping Trip.
:censored: :moon: :bart:


http://acidcow.com/pics/20140528/bea...y_girls_59.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/IC67B7SIGR41W/giphy.gif
https://68.media.tumblr.com/bcdfa409...ulxxoo_540.gif
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-conte...s-jiggling.gif

Too many of you people haven't answered the off season tread question designed to keep us from getting boarded.
It appears that Smashmouth's tent is going to be full this year. :broccoli:

http://assets.horseheadhuffer.com/ha...com-9005c7.jpg

RaginCajun83 07-13-2017 10:03 AM

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white women #3

vpheughan 07-13-2017 10:36 AM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Jo Bob: "I've never seen t**ties like yours. Could I show your ti**ties to my friend O.W.?"

Why sure Jo Bob, That's what B&G stands for " BIG & GAWD!" New Orleans: Puts the Uns in Big Uns!!

CharityMike 07-13-2017 01:10 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 754682)

Do any of you care what I think? I knew you did...

Ok then... here is my answer to Question to #8:

Where is the white women? :google:

OFF-SEASON QUESTION #69:
Which white woman do you like better #1, #2, #3, #4...?

Anybody that doesn't answer this question will have to report to Smashmouth's tent
at midnight at the B&G Camping Trip. :shock: :censored: :moon: :bart:


http://acidcow.com/pics/20140528/bea...y_girls_59.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/IC67B7SIGR41W/giphy.gif
https://68.media.tumblr.com/bcdfa409...ulxxoo_540.gif
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-conte...s-jiggling.gif


#4 for me please!!!

Rugby Saint II 07-13-2017 05:28 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
[QUOTE=foreverfan;754876]Too many of you people haven't answered the off season tread question designed to keep us from getting boarded.
It appears that Smashmouth's tent is going to be full this year. :broccoli:

http://assets.horseheadhuffer.com/ha...com-9005c7.jpg[/QUOTE

I was hoping to organize a camping trip but things have turned ugly..................

Maybe we should rent some cabins. :broccoli:

AsylumGuido 07-13-2017 05:33 PM

Re: The sooner the regular season starts the better
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 754682)

Do any of you care what I think? I knew you did...

Ok then... here is my answer to Question to #8:

Where is the white women? :google:

OFF-SEASON QUESTION #69:
Which white woman do you like better #1, #2, #3, #4...?

Anybody that doesn't answer this question will have to report to Smashmouth's tent
at midnight at the B&G Camping Trip. :shock: :censored: :moon: :bart:


http://acidcow.com/pics/20140528/bea...y_girls_59.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/IC67B7SIGR41W/giphy.gif
https://68.media.tumblr.com/bcdfa409...ulxxoo_540.gif
http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-conte...s-jiggling.gif

No doubt ... Numero uno! Ella es tan caliente como usted puede conseguir!


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