Should Brees sit out training camp?
 

Do like Farve and take it light. Would be a shame for him to get injured and he is getting older. Already knows playbook backwards and forwards.

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Taking it light and not going full-out with training is why injuries are more problematic and common in the NFL...

Especially at his age, intensive training and conditioning are even more important than ten years ago for him...

Then there's the whole developing chemistry and timing with his receivers to consider as well...

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Which is why I hate these pussified training camps they have now. Seems like ever since they took away two a days and full on hitting there are a lot more injuries.
Laws don't apply to Drew though.

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Brees is smart about his body and he should be fine. Just don't hit the guy in the red jersey.

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once again to many new faces. back in the Fav era player turn over was not this bad.

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Exactly. Favre was in a completely different era. That is what makes it so amazing he was playing at such a high level into his forties. Today players like Brees and Brady are in better physical condition at 37 and 38 than what Favre was at 30. They train year round. They live with nutrition as a lifestyle. Favre would put away his beer, jump off his tractor and show up a training camp.

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Absoluely not!!! Risk coming out to start the season flat lose the first few games and have to fight for a playoff spot. We have had good season when the team comes out and goes 4-0

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There isn't enough hitting to justify anyone being held back in training camp.

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They need to play in the heat on New Orleans so when they play in the Superdome it is like playing in cool air and makes for an easy and comfortable game for our players.

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Brees is way to competitive to sit on the sideline and watch. We need him getting on the same page with Kamara, Ginn, Peterson, etc.

Not to mention, if our defense is going to improve at all they need to be going toe to toe with Drew and not Garrett Grayson.

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You are funny, but I am glad they moved TC out of that girlie-spa in WVa

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No way Drew would sit idle while his team is in camp. He'd lose his ****ing mind.

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It is a fair question. Should he sit out training camp? He and Ginn don't have their timing down yet but he's been to training camp last year with all the other receivers so they should have a feel for their timing. However, Ginn and Drew are both savvy vets and it shouldn't take too long.

Also, we need to do a thorough evaluation of what we have behind Chase Daniels. He's not the future but he could hold the fort down for a couple of games.

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Take away helmet for TC?

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Yay...... No more Greenbrier curse.

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No need to develop timing.

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Sitting out training camp would be foolish. There is nothing to be gained and everything to lose. But, might as well throw out outlandish ideas.

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He'd just take it right back.

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Not happening under any circumstances.

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EAUX, EAUX! Here we GEAUX!

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Just float it way downfield, like you would for Devery. It might get dropped, but if it doesnt, its 6.

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This. Remember when Brees was out for the game against Carolina? Dude was on the sidelines running through his reads for the called plays.

The same drive and personality that makes him a HOF QB also is the same drive and personality that makes it virtually impossible for him to take a break. We should be lucky that he understands that preseason games are a waste of time and that 4 quarters during the preseason is enough to get prepped in game conditions.

SFIAH

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What seems so obvious to most appears foreign to a few.

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Me funny? GTFOOH. :D

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I wouldn't mind seeing 2 backups battling it out for the #2 spot. We know who's going to start but maybe a peak into what really sits behind Brees?

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This imo is one of the problems. Brees does not play enough in preseason as it is and as a result if the backup QBs are not playing well, we will not get a good estimate of the defense if they are being put back on the field constantly.

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Will, as usual everything is a problem. In fact your point is moot on several fronts:

1. Preseason is a waste of time. Everyone runs vanilla schemes and starters generally only play enough to break a sweat.

2. By the time teams get to the backup QBs, both teams have gone to the second string on both sides of the ball. So the guys out there on defense often will not be the guys playing in September when the flack starts flying.

3. The purpose of preseason is to evaluate talent under real time conditions. Established starters are generally not the focus of that evaluation process.

The Saints defense needs to do the two of three things they always needed to do. Keep defensive scoring in the low 20's, get off the field, stay healthy, and create turnovers. Nothing that happens in preseason is really going to predict any of those items other than if players play more in the preseason, the more likely they are to be injured in the process.

Will the defense actually be better? I'm unsure. Will we know one way or another in the preseason? No way in hell.

SFIAH

Re: Should Brees sit out training camp?
 

Should Brees sit out?

NO!!!

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^^^^^
This!

Training camp will not tell us anything about what we will see from the defense come the regular season. Although, we hear it every year ... I am preparing myself for the declarations of doom and gloom if the defense gives up 30 points in the second preseason game.

:D

Re: Should Brees sit out training camp?
 

You think I don't know teams run vanilla schemes in pre-season? It's the posters here bringing up the 2009 preseason to measure up against what this preseason will have. Still, a defense that keeps being put back on the field in one half is still gonna be worn down.

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And that cannot be determined in the preseason. That is the point that was made.

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lmao- madden style

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we need pressure man, bring pressure and win up front. Go back to 13 and look how much pressure just our dline brought

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The preseason tells you nothing unless you are watching the ones vs. ones after the first preseason game. Usually the 1st half or so of the third game gives the best glimpse into what will happen at the start of the regular season.
Still doesn't matter in the preseason. It's likely that less than 53 guys who are currently on the roster are going to be on the roster come the start of the first game. While it's possible to evaluate single players on single plays in the preseason, getting an overall evaluation of how the defense is going to play in the regular season is pretty much laughable. And even more so with all of the new and returning from injury players that are on the defense.

The best time to evaluate everything is sometime after the first quarter of the season. But with the brutal schedule with 3 road games, a home game against the Patriots, and a trip to London out the gate, it may be the end of October before we really know what the 2017 Saints squad is really going to be.

It may be 2009 all over again. The defense may be similar to the 2013 edition that came out of nowhere. Or it can be the historically bad trainwrecks we've seen the last 3 years. Impossible to tell now, or in the preseason, or even by October 1st (unless of course the Saints are 5-0 and the defense is leading the league in points allowed).

My advice is to stop worrying about it. With 87 linebackers and another 52 defensive backs, it's going to be difficult to evaluate the defense at all until the cutdown to 53.

Remember that last year there were very few starting defensive players at the end of the season that were starting at the beginning of the season.

You'd be wise to just accept that you don't know what's going to happen and that you have no control over the outcome. It's good for the blood pressure.

SFIAH