The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16
 

Will this year be different? Does it really make a difference? :chug:

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I think it will be different. Does it matter? Usually I would say no, but given the depth of the squad our third string should be able to handle the Browns. If they can't then it does mean something.

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We also went 7-9 both years so I'd say something needs to change and it should start with setting the tone early and winning in the preseason.

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I think it matters but only in things which can't be measured; morale, confidence, trusting others. Have we won all of them before and had a horrible season? Yes we have. I remember a few years ago one player was making 90% of the tackles in the last preseason game which to me said a lot about the defensive tea leaves. If we are losing like that then yeah, it matters.

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Other than seeing how a few of the rookies with high exceptions work out, I don't think the first preseason game means too much. I do think the Saints need to show some level of dominance on D against the Texans' and Ravens' #1 offenses if we want to avoid another 7-9 season.

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^^^^^^^^^^^. Building confidence and implant a sense of winning. A relatively young team (on both sides of the ball) need to develop trust & belief. We cannot let Osweiler :rolleyes: slang the ball up and down the field on us.

Circle back to that magical 2009 pre season ... We were dominating teams in pre season. I agree, this team needs to win early, even in pre season.

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Yeah I think winning starts in Pre-season. I don't expect a 4-0 but I do expect a 2-2. Go in to win a couple and get some reps and player development things going but you need to set the tone in pre-season.

I want them to run the ball a lot in these pre-season games. You don't show up and expect to run the ball in the regular season. You have to comit to running the ball in the off season.

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I was at a preseason game against the Cowboys in Shreveport in 2006. It was miserable. At halftime the sky let loose with a downpour, one of those storms where the rain hits the ground and bounces back up a foot or two. The Cowboys destroyed the Saints and the Cowboy fans in the stands were brutal. The Saints looked like a JV team. They were disorganized, outta place and pushed around. They whooped us in all three facets of the game. One of the Cowboy coaches even made fun of the Saints on the radio after the game. (cause the boys are classy like that)

Well, we all know how that season turned out. Best season the Saints had ever had up to that point. And they even got their revenge when they humiliated the Cowboys by taking a knee to end a blow out in their own stadium later that year.

I guess my point to all that is, even if the Saints lose, and I hope they don't, they can turn it into a lesson and figure out what they're doing wrong. Just the other day I heard someone say about football, you either win or you learn. With all the new blood on the team this season, a loss could end up being more of a positive than a win. That said, for my own morale, I hope they dominate Thursday.

Who Dat!!

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I think everyone knew we had something special when preseason was started in 09, even Chris Reis was forcing fumbles.

We had lost multiple times to the Texans previously and dominated them in 09 preseason, that's when I could tell something was diifferent.

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Exactly. Preseason shows me plenty.

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I always try to separate it out. I'm feeling pretty good about it if we're winning with our starters out there. It doesn't matter to me after that as I start focusing in on specific players when the tryouts come about during the rest of the game.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure I won't get the live game here in southwestern Colorado. Anyone know when the replay'll be broadcast on the NFL network?

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Winning begets winning! Winning is a habit! A winning team is talented enough to win and has the coaching to win. But it all starts in preseason. Putting all the players in a position to win is what good coaches do. That is what I'm looking for Thursday night. If we lose the game but play well then I'm fine. Just give me a good showing from the backups and a high energy performance from start to finish.

I want to see results.......points don't matter now.

Edit: Game film baby! :p

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I was in the stands that same game, Utah! It was the first time to wear my brand new Drew Brees jersey. I still wear the same jersey every game.

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Friday @ 9 am CT.

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I don't think it was about winning but Sean did say in one of those years (15 I think) that the penalties and mental mistakes were bad juju for the season ahead.

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Great, we'll all be at work. I get to miss it twice.

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Not me. I'm retired. But you can TIVO it, can't you.

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No, but I still have a VCR ;)

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I think it very much matters. Especially for the veterans who have had to look slow starts trying to dig out of an 0-4 start. At this point a win of any kind will help moral. Do you play to win to the point of risking injury? Hell no, but they need the taste of losing out of their mouths.

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I just remember the offense doing whatever they felt like, and then in the third game I think we played the Raiders and it was just terrible what we did to them.

I am less concerned with wins with how we look. Last preseason our entire team looked bad. Offense looked terrible. Signing Evans helped the oline, but how we looked in preseason was not good.

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Yeah, and the thing is how you look. I mean we looked like a keystone cops act last preseason. Of course you had the normal "I am smarter than you" poster chastising people for being concerned, but yes how we look absolutely matters.

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yes it does Rugby. 06 we built a winning attitude through winning. That is why sometimes getting on a roll with wins can be extremely important

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Want to see our guys engaged, enthused, and efficient. Not sloppy and disorganized.

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I thought the government or some corporation (same diff) confiscated all of those.

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I want to see players knowing where they are supposed to be and some sort of cohesion. Just don't make stupid mistakes and I'll be happy. Hopefully we will see improvement from game to game throughout the preseason. The last two years it was nothing. Hopefully the players like Crowley who are having a great camp will continue to shine on the field.

I also don't want to see any more dead money.

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Absolutely. That is exactly what to am hoping to see.

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I'm hoping the assistant coaching changes have helped and our depth players are playing better because of it. Need to notch a win or two in preseason or it's a bad sign. A lot of the players in the game are playing for a spot on the team so there is no excuse not to go hard.

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That was a tough night to be a Saints fan. After seeing that game, I was convinced we wouldn't win 4 games that season.

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in some way winning preseason games doesn't show the talent, but shows our depth and coaching.

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I love 50 burgers.... can we go back to that this year?

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If our d is like 20th, with this offense I think it is a very real possibility

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LOL! My wife was thinking along the same lines after the game. I told her the exact same thing as I had told her as long as I knew her and have told her up through today. My Saints are going 19-0 this season. She didn't believe me, either, but that's just the way I choose to look at things.

I was somewhat impressed by that Colston kid, though. :D