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jeanpierre 08-16-2017 08:03 AM
Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 

jeanpierre 08-16-2017 08:07 AM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
So glad to hear he's doing what he's contracted to do...

His "emergence" allowed us to finally break with Loomis' clusterf*ck mistake of Jairus Byrd...

Emergence is probably too strong a word, maybe just plain availability would be more appropriate...

Still question using two draft picks to get him; he needs to produce in a big way this season or...

We're looking at extending Vaccaro and Marcus Williams becoming the starting free safety this year...

SmashMouth 08-16-2017 08:11 AM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
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WillMacKenzie 08-16-2017 10:02 AM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 759198)
So glad to hear he's doing what he's contracted to do...

His "emergence" allowed us to finally break with Loomis' clusterf*ck mistake of Jairus Byrd...

Emergence is probably too strong a word, maybe just plain availability would be more appropriate...

Still question using two draft picks to get him; he needs to produce in a big way this season or...

We're looking at extending Vaccaro and Marcus Williams becoming the starting free safety this year...

Tackling is important...buuuuut, I've even seen punters tackle people, what I need to see is turnovers and real safety play from this man.

Seer1 08-16-2017 06:58 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 759225)
Tackling is important...buuuuut, I've even seen punters tackle people, what I need to see is turnovers and real safety play from this man.
Maybe you have seen punters tackle people (especially if you've watched Penn State lately), but it's been a while since we've seen many Saints tackle people... Although yes, it's definitely time to start winning the take away battles again.

MatthewT 08-16-2017 07:16 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
Saints desperately need a safety to step up and be an interception machine.

The Dude 08-16-2017 07:25 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
Here sharpers getting a lot of balls thrown his way these days.

hagan714 08-17-2017 05:47 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
the one thing missing from his game besides coverage skills.

His contract year is upon him and so is my judgement

QBREES9 08-18-2017 11:42 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
You can do it !!!!

Rugby Saint II 08-19-2017 04:56 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
Vonn Bell could make KV expendable and Marcus Williams becomes the starting FS. Both have some range and could thrive as two deep safeties.:popcorn:

AsylumGuido 08-19-2017 05:00 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 759730)
Vonn Bell could make KV expendable and Marcus Williams becomes the starting FS. Both have some range and could thrive as two deep safeties.:popcorn:
Why expendable? I'd rather have starter quality backups on the roster and available for three safety sets. There is not an absolute on two starters. I want four starting quality safeties if we can get them on the roster.

dizzle88 08-19-2017 05:30 PM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
No need to wish Vaccaro gone. He's arguably the most passionate player on our D, you can see his hunger matches the likes of Brees'. When we lose, he is completely p***ed off.

If we let him go, we'd have proven that we learned nothing from 2013/2014, where we had the #4 ranked D, then we let all our leadership leave in the offseason and fell all the way down to #32.

Look how many leaders and veterans on D we changed between 13/14, I'd rather keep a guy as hungry and tenacious as Vaccaro around for as long as we can.

jeanpierre 08-20-2017 07:46 AM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
Vaccaro seems to be following the same parallel that Ingram has had in his career...

He may not have warranted a first round pick, but after five years, he's among the top in his position and is more valuable to us to keep him here with the time and development invested...

SmashMouth 08-20-2017 09:26 AM
Re: Vonn Bell 'pushing himself' to become playmaker, spark 'splash plays' in Saints secondary
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 759783)
Vaccaro seems to be following the same parallel that Ingram has had in his career...

He may not have warranted a first round pick, but after five years, he's among the top in his position and is more valuable to us to keep him here with the time and development invested...
Are you saying he's a slow learner... like Ingram? What does that say about both programs each came from? :confused:


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