Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season

jeanpierre · 08-23-2017, 03:40 PM

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2017, 04:37 PM

So very true. While the Saints have had three straight 7-9 seasons, as some like to drone on about, the fact is that many of those nine losses each year came in the final two minutes. As bad as things were they were always right there. Bad teams are out of most of their loses and lose far more than nine games. Winning the final two minutes is key. I love the fact that they are really emphasizing that part of the game to such an extent.

Danno · 08-23-2017, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So very true. While the Saints have had three straight 7-9 seasons, as some like to drone on about, the fact is that many of those nine losses each year came in the final two minutes. As bad as things were they were always right there. Bad teams are out of most of their loses and lose far more than nine games. Winning the final two minutes is key. I love the fact that they are really emphasizing that part of the game to such an extent.

And many times it wasn't just the last 2 minutes, it was the last possession, and often on the last play.

Its why the 100 yard pick six just had me rolling my eyes. Same old crap, We just can't put that nail in their coffin.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-23-2017, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So very true. While the Saints have had three straight 7-9 seasons, as some like to drone on about, the fact is that many of those nine losses each year came in the final two minutes. As bad as things were they were always right there. Bad teams are out of most of their loses and lose far more than nine games. Winning the final two minutes is key. I love the fact that they are really emphasizing that part of the game to such an extent.

I only disagree about one thing Guido. The 2017 Saints need to put themselves in a position so that the game doesn't come down to the last 2 minutes.

Being up 10 or more in the 4th quarter along with an effective running game for the 4+ minute drill will eliminate the need to be the Cardiac Kids in 2017.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 08-24-2017, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I only disagree about one thing Guido. The 2017 Saints need to put themselves in a position so that the game doesn't come down to the last 2 minutes.

Being up 10 or more in the 4th quarter along with an effective running game for the 4+ minute drill will eliminate the need to be the Cardiac Kids in 2017.

SFIAH

Oh, I agree, but the NFL is so tight that you can't always totally eliminate those nail-biters. No matter how dominating a team is they are going to see at least two or three of those a season.

SmashMouth · 08-24-2017, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I only disagree about one thing Guido. The 2017 Saints need to put themselves in a position so that the game doesn't come down to the last 2 minutes.

Being up 10 or more in the 4th quarter along with an effective running game for the 4+ minute drill will eliminate the need to be the Cardiac Kids in 2017.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Oh, I agree, but the NFL is so tight that you can't always totally eliminate those nail-biters. No matter how dominating a team is they are going to se at least two or three of those a season.

Time to go back to the fifty burgers of 2009. We can do it!!!

spkb25 · 08-24-2017, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Time to go back to the fifty burgers of 2009. We can do it!!!

let's not forget '11

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-24-2017, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Oh, I agree, but the NFL is so tight that you can't always totally eliminate those nail-biters. No matter how dominating a team is they are going to see at least two or three of those a season.

Guido, it isn't about eliminating them. Or even about executing in the 2 minute drill when the situation occurs. It's about not letting teams back in after dominating for most of the game. Too many examples out there but two stick out in my head from last year:

The Carolina game in October (which I attended). The Saints are up 14 with two minutes in the 3rd quarter. The Kitties score 21 4th quarter points and it takes a 2 minute drive and a Lutz kick with 11 seconds left to win the game.

And of course the Raiders Season opener. The Saints went into the 4th quarter with an 11 point lead. Giving up two bombs let the Raiders back into the game, which was ultimately lost.

My point again isn't about eliminating the close games. My point is that eliminating the other teams ability to get back into the game when there's a two possession or more lead in the 4th quarter.

My hope is that the improved defense and hopefully a full committment to the running game in those situations will eliminate many of the nail biters that have plagued the organization in recent years.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 08-24-2017, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Guido, it isn't about eliminating them. Or even about executing in the 2 minute drill when the situation occurs. It's about not letting teams back in after dominating for most of the game. Too many examples out there but two stick out in my head from last year:

The Carolina game in October (which I attended). The Saints are up 14 with two minutes in the 3rd quarter. The Kitties score 21 4th quarter points and it takes a 2 minute drive and a Lutz kick with 11 seconds left to win the game.

And of course the Raiders Season opener. The Saints went into the 4th quarter with an 11 point lead. Giving up two bombs let the Raiders back into the game, which was ultimately lost.

My point again isn't about eliminating the close games. My point is that eliminating the other teams ability to get back into the game when there's a two possession or more lead in the 4th quarter.

My hope is that the improved defense and hopefully a full committment to the running game in those situations will eliminate many of the nail biters that have plagued the organization in recent years.

SFIAH

I don't disagree with that at all. I hope we jump out to 20 point leads all season long and have them coming into the last two minutes, but that just doesn't happen every game even with the best of teams. There are going to be those two or three games that remain tight in the best of years that can make the difference between home field all the way through or not.

The Dude · 08-23-2017, 06:14 PM

Not to mention all the 3rd down and 40s we give away right when the other teams need it the most.

08-23-2017, 03:40 PM	#1
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season So very true. While the Saints have had three straight 7-9 seasons, as some like to drone on about, the fact is that many of those nine losses each year came in the final two minutes. As bad as things were they were always right there. Bad teams are out of most of their loses and lose far more than nine games. Winning the final two minutes is key. I love the fact that they are really emphasizing that part of the game to such an extent. Danno, jeanpierre and Thirty3 like this.

08-23-2017, 05:51 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So very true. While the Saints have had three straight 7-9 seasons, as some like to drone on about, the fact is that many of those nine losses each year came in the final two minutes. As bad as things were they were always right there. Bad teams are out of most of their loses and lose far more than nine games. Winning the final two minutes is key. I love the fact that they are really emphasizing that part of the game to such an extent. And many times it wasn't just the last 2 minutes, it was the last possession, and often on the last play. Its why the 100 yard pick six just had me rolling my eyes. Same old crap, We just can't put that nail in their coffin. jeanpierre likes this.

08-23-2017, 08:16 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So very true. While the Saints have had three straight 7-9 seasons, as some like to drone on about, the fact is that many of those nine losses each year came in the final two minutes. As bad as things were they were always right there. Bad teams are out of most of their loses and lose far more than nine games. Winning the final two minutes is key. I love the fact that they are really emphasizing that part of the game to such an extent. I only disagree about one thing Guido. The 2017 Saints need to put themselves in a position so that the game doesn't come down to the last 2 minutes. Being up 10 or more in the 4th quarter along with an effective running game for the 4+ minute drill will eliminate the need to be the Cardiac Kids in 2017. SFIAH Beastmode likes this.

08-24-2017, 07:45 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I only disagree about one thing Guido. The 2017 Saints need to put themselves in a position so that the game doesn't come down to the last 2 minutes. Being up 10 or more in the 4th quarter along with an effective running game for the 4+ minute drill will eliminate the need to be the Cardiac Kids in 2017. SFIAH Oh, I agree, but the NFL is so tight that you can't always totally eliminate those nail-biters. No matter how dominating a team is they are going to see at least two or three of those a season.

08-24-2017, 07:48 AM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I only disagree about one thing Guido. The 2017 Saints need to put themselves in a position so that the game doesn't come down to the last 2 minutes. Being up 10 or more in the 4th quarter along with an effective running game for the 4+ minute drill will eliminate the need to be the Cardiac Kids in 2017. SFIAH Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Oh, I agree, but the NFL is so tight that you can't always totally eliminate those nail-biters. No matter how dominating a team is they are going to se at least two or three of those a season. Time to go back to the fifty burgers of 2009. We can do it!!!

08-24-2017, 09:01 AM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by SmashMouth Time to go back to the fifty burgers of 2009. We can do it!!! let's not forget '11

08-24-2017, 09:59 AM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Oh, I agree, but the NFL is so tight that you can't always totally eliminate those nail-biters. No matter how dominating a team is they are going to see at least two or three of those a season. Guido, it isn't about eliminating them. Or even about executing in the 2 minute drill when the situation occurs. It's about not letting teams back in after dominating for most of the game. Too many examples out there but two stick out in my head from last year: The Carolina game in October (which I attended). The Saints are up 14 with two minutes in the 3rd quarter. The Kitties score 21 4th quarter points and it takes a 2 minute drive and a Lutz kick with 11 seconds left to win the game. And of course the Raiders Season opener. The Saints went into the 4th quarter with an 11 point lead. Giving up two bombs let the Raiders back into the game, which was ultimately lost. My point again isn't about eliminating the close games. My point is that eliminating the other teams ability to get back into the game when there's a two possession or more lead in the 4th quarter. My hope is that the improved defense and hopefully a full committment to the running game in those situations will eliminate many of the nail biters that have plagued the organization in recent years. SFIAH
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08-24-2017, 10:07 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Why Saints are preparing as if games' final 2 minutes will determine their season Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Guido, it isn't about eliminating them. Or even about executing in the 2 minute drill when the situation occurs. It's about not letting teams back in after dominating for most of the game. Too many examples out there but two stick out in my head from last year: The Carolina game in October (which I attended). The Saints are up 14 with two minutes in the 3rd quarter. The Kitties score 21 4th quarter points and it takes a 2 minute drive and a Lutz kick with 11 seconds left to win the game. And of course the Raiders Season opener. The Saints went into the 4th quarter with an 11 point lead. Giving up two bombs let the Raiders back into the game, which was ultimately lost. My point again isn't about eliminating the close games. My point is that eliminating the other teams ability to get back into the game when there's a two possession or more lead in the 4th quarter. My hope is that the improved defense and hopefully a full committment to the running game in those situations will eliminate many of the nail biters that have plagued the organization in recent years. SFIAH I don't disagree with that at all. I hope we jump out to 20 point leads all season long and have them coming into the last two minutes, but that just doesn't happen every game even with the best of teams. There are going to be those two or three games that remain tight in the best of years that can make the difference between home field all the way through or not.

08-23-2017, 06:14 PM	#10
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