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It's still just the preseason, but the Saints have played three quality games now; Is it OK to hope?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Looking at the schedule objectively 2-2 after four is probably the odds on bet. Probably, even though the best 2-2 would be losses in the 2 AFC games, which I believe is unlikely. I also wouldn't ...

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Old 08-28-2017, 06:10 PM   #1
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Re: It's still just the preseason, but the Saints have played three quality games now; Is it OK to hope?

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Looking at the schedule objectively 2-2 after four is probably the odds on bet.
Probably, even though the best 2-2 would be losses in the 2 AFC games, which I believe is unlikely. I also wouldn't be thrilled with either starting 0-2 with a must win situation on the road against Carolina, or any scenario that includes a Carolina loss.

So while 2-2 may be an objective peak, I'm pinning my hopes on a 3-1 start with wins both in Minnesota and Carolina.
I'm thinking 10-6 is likely, 11-5 wouldn't surprise me, 9-7 would be disappointing.
Agreed. 9-7 means faltering down the stretch. That would not be good.
So if we go 2-2 after 4, I expect 8-4 after that easily (barring excessive injuries like last year)
I'm going with 3-1 to start and 9-3 to finish with at least a 5-1 record in the division. I agree with others that the defense is passing the eyeball test. I don't see the Saints having 4 minute drill problems this season as in the past. More of those "Oops!" losses will be "Yeah Baby!" wins.

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Looking at the schedule objectively 2-2 after four is probably the odds on bet.

I'm thinking 10-6 is likely, 11-5 wouldn't surprise me, 9-7 would be disappointing.

So if we go 2-2 after 4, I expect 8-4 after that easily (barring excessive injuries like last year)
I think 2-2 out of the gate is the key, no less for sure. And I think they may even surprise with more, the way they're improved on special teams as well!
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Old 08-28-2017, 06:26 PM   #3
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I think 2-2 out of the gate is the key, no less for sure. And I think they may even surprise with more, the way they're improved on special teams as well!
Maybe some are giving Miami more props than they deserve. I just don't chalk up playing Cutler on a neutral field as an L.

Given that, and the presumption of a L to the Pats (which personally I'm not ready to concede), then a 2-2 record means a loss to either the Panthers or the Vikes. Both are tough as they are road games. And both have formidable defenses. But what exactly do the 2-2 callers see in these two squads that chalks up either as a definite loss?

That's why I believe in the 3-1 start. While I concede that the game against the Pats is going to be tough, I'm not giving up on any of the three road games until the final score is in. Looks to 2013. Brees' offense + improved defense = wins.

3 road wins point up with a bullet.

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Saints defense going on my fantasy football team before they get too hot
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Saints defense going on my fantasy football team before they get too hot
The counter to this will be that Drew's FF numbers will be down if he doesn't have to throw 45 times a game
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The counter to this will be that Drew's FF numbers will be down if he doesn't have to throw 45 times a game
Since I don't play FF this is just fine with me. Since 2006 the Saints record when drew throws 35 attempts or less is over 90% wins.

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Yea I'm more hopeful than I have been in years. They look hungry and look like they are really feeding off what they accomplished so far defensively.
That carries into the season.
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Side note - Bryan Braman (guy who was signed from Philly) looked really good on special teams. I know it's a long shot that he cracks the final 53, but he was making plays vs the Texans.
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BUMP ...

2017 Saints pre season defensive stats worth mentioning :

#2 in rushing yards allowed per game at 64.7
#5 in passing yards allowed per game at 174.0
#2 in overall yards allowed per game at 238.7

I know it's still pre season but those numbers are nothing to take lightly. As this young defensive group starts to "gel", it's almost impossible for me not to be encouraged.

Bring it.
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BUMP ...

2017 Saints pre season defensive stats worth mentioning :

#2 in rushing yards allowed per game at 64.7
#5 in passing yards allowed per game at 174.0
#2 in overall yards allowed per game at 238.7

I know it's still pre season but those numbers are nothing to take lightly. As this young defensive group starts to "gel", it's almost impossible for me not to be encouraged.

Bring it.
I totally wouldn't have guessed we were that good against the run. I've been so focused on other areas of play. I saw them let Houston get a couple of good runs against them but come to think of it that's it.
Most of those passing yards were

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