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saintshrimp 09-03-2017 10:38 PM

Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
This kid is going to be a special player and would be the perfect Drew successor. Just hope we get the chance.

WillSaints81 09-03-2017 11:39 PM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Last thing I want is a QB drafted round 1.

jeanpierre 09-04-2017 12:26 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Let's play out the whole season first - If he has a decent year, he may not be there when we pick at No. 32...Besides, he has the personality of a twat...

saintshrimp 09-04-2017 01:07 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 762432)
Let's play out the whole season first - If he has a decent year, he may not be there when we pick at No. 32...Besides, he has the personality of a twat...

Why because he said what people are afraid to say. He said what he felt. Good qbs are drafted early. Drew wont be there forever. Chase isnt the guy. Time to think of saints A.D. this could be class of qbs like 83 and the yr Big Ben, Eli,and Rivers came out.

saintshrimp 09-04-2017 01:13 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Im not saying drew is done by no means. Just saying time to find a successor and next yrs class is a good one. We most likely won't be picking 32 get real

burningmetal 09-04-2017 03:44 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 762434)
Why because he said what people are afraid to say. He said what he felt. Good qbs are drafted early. Drew wont be there forever. Chase isnt the guy. Time to think of saints A.D. this could be class of qbs like 83 and the yr Big Ben, Eli,and Rivers came out.

If you're referring to his political sentiments, I don't think he said anything anyone is "afraid" to say. He gave everyone his liberal feelings which, frankly, fits right in with not just the national media, but particularly right there in Los Angeles. He didn't exactly step outside the box with his garbage.

I'm not interested in drafting him. And he also needs to prove something against an actual defense, which the PAC-12 does not provide, nor does Texas A&M. He got a lot of hype as a freshman but was uneven, at best, last year.

hagan714 09-04-2017 07:57 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
he is a solid prospect so pound away.

Another solid option in round one

Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr
3 1/2 year starter. He's already proven his arm strength and a soft touch over the top, as well as his continued improvement in finding secondary targets,

But the steal in the draft might end up being my favorite

Luke Falk, QB, Washington State 6032 214 4.87 #4 rSr
Falk is more than a system quarterback. big, strong-armed block of clay? Might be the best QB prospect to sit and groom.

gulfgambler 09-04-2017 08:06 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 762435)
Im not saying drew is done by no means. Just saying time to find a successor and next yrs class is a good one. We most likely won't be picking 32 get real

Why not, we had pick 32 this year?

Seer1 09-04-2017 08:58 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Way too early for a mock draft.

CheramieIII 09-04-2017 09:12 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Remember a couple of those TD passes went right through the hands of defenders. Would everyone think the same if he had 2 or 3 more interceptions and lost by 2 touchdowns? I need to see a lot more proof is all I'm saying!

jeanpierre 09-04-2017 10:40 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 762435)
Im not saying drew is done by no means. Just saying time to find a successor and next yrs class is a good one. We most likely won't be picking 32 get real

Nobody's disagreeing with finding the next guy...

Rosen's not it as he's more a Jeff George, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, etc...

Rugby Saint II 09-04-2017 11:40 AM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 762472)
Nobody's disagreeing with finding the next guy...

Rosen's not it as he's more a Jeff George, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, etc...


I would be fine with three out of four on your list. None of them are elite and I want Payton to groom the right guy and not just hope he's good enough to win.

jeanpierre 09-04-2017 12:43 PM

Re: Pounding the table now for Josh Rosen next year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 762434)
Why because he said what people are afraid to say. He said what he felt. Good qbs are drafted early. Drew wont be there forever. Chase isnt the guy. Time to think of saints A.D. this could be class of qbs like 83 and the yr Big Ben, Eli,and Rivers came out.

Simply not true - Look at some of the league's top rated passers last season...

Tom Brady - 2000 NFL Draft Round 6, Pick 199 (Note: He's won a few Superbowls, the last one has him considered the GOAT now)

Dak Prescott - 2016 NFL Draft, Round 4, Pick 135 (Note: Taken after QBs Jared Goff (No.1 pick), Carson Wentz (No. 2 pick), and Paxton Lynch (No. 26 pick) - all in the first round)

Aaron Rodgers - 2005 NFL Draft, Round 1, Pick 24 (Note: SF took QB Alex Smith with the top pick of the draft)

Drew Brees - 2001 NFL Draft, Round 2, Pick 32 (Note: SD let him depart via FA, opted for Phillip Rivers 2004 NFL Draft, Round 1, Pick 4)

Kirk Cousins - 2012 NFL Draft, Round 4, Pick 102 (Note: His own team, the Shanahan Redskins, traded the farm to move up and take Robert Griffin No. 2 overall in same draft)

Derek Carr - 2014 NFL Draft, Round 2, Pick 36 (Note: Taken after QBs Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, and Tedy Bridgewater - all in the first round)

and the league's top rated passer last season? You're right, he was a high pick...

Matt "Matty Ice" Ryan - 2008 NFL Draft, Round 1, Pick 3 (Note: He just delivered one of the all-time chokes in Sporting History)

And should I bring up UDFA QB Kurt Warner, bagging groceries at one point between College and NFL, took two different franchises to a Superbowl?

But, I will mention that SF QB Joe Montana (3X SuperBowl MVP, 4X Champ) was the last pick taken in the third round of the 1979 draft...


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