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halloween 65 09-11-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 763410)
he takes drugs, is that good?

I can't answer that Guido will be on me defending Vaccarro like he's an angel with golden wings. Oh well let him. The answer is NO IT ISN"T GOOD TO TAKE ADDERALL AND PLAY FOOTBALL!!

nola_swammi 09-11-2017 08:56 PM

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Drew Bree's getting misleading stats

ChrisXVI 09-11-2017 08:57 PM

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Oh hey look! We just remembered that Mark Ingram is our best RB!

Lord_Saint83 09-11-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 763418)
Oh hey look! We just remembered that Mark Ingram is our best RB!


Yea but you how sean gets when he gets some new toys. Idk why ppl give ingram such a hard time

halloween 65 09-11-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 763418)
Oh hey look! We just remembered that Mark Ingram is our best RB!

Who?

halloween 65 09-11-2017 09:01 PM

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I predict an onside kick!! Our D want stop them.

Rugby Saint II 09-11-2017 09:03 PM

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We obviously have no depth along the O-line.

K Major 09-11-2017 09:05 PM

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Maybe my expectations were too high going into week 1.

Road game against against a top #4, 5 defense, a bunch of rookies in the secondary and a suspect O line. What was I thinking?

Bradford will look like S :censored: next week against a decent defense.

Guess what? .. NE is up next.

halloween 65 09-11-2017 09:06 PM

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The Dennis Allen effect. Game 1=X

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 09:07 PM

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Cone of uncertainty too big. Let's see what develops after week 4

Seer1 09-11-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 763414)
I thought that you banned yourself from the discussion board.:clown:

No that's the idiot will81. This is the Scottish Will.

saintfan 09-11-2017 09:08 PM

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1-3

Barry from MS 09-11-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 763417)
Drew Bree's getting misleading stats

75 extra yards in 4th Qtr down 20. A #1 offense rank is very, very deceiving. Rather have a better red zone TD percentage.

ChrisXVI 09-11-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 763424)
Maybe my expectations were too high going into week 1.

Road game against against a top #4, 5 defense, a bunch of rookies in the secondary and a suspect O line. What was I thinking?

Bradford will look like S :censored: next week against a decent defense.

Guess what? .. NE is up next.

The rose-colored glasses of the offseason. We never think there are problems until we see it in the regular season.

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 09:12 PM

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Ever tried to draw a person, mess up the hand, keep trying to fix it, only to make the mistake more obvious with a ton of smudges? I feel like we're that hand.

Ashley 09-11-2017 09:13 PM

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Going to be another long year

Seer1 09-11-2017 09:15 PM

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Could start following Cleveland. Can always count on them...

halloween 65 09-11-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 763430)
75 extra yards in 4th Qtr down 20. A #1 offense rank is very, very deceiving. Rather have a better red zone TD percentage.

Lots of junk yards last season and just about always playing from behind does that. 800 or so passing yards were from that last season but being desperate playing catch up does that. Our best O we ever had was 2013, that was electric.

hagan714 09-11-2017 09:18 PM

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#1 concern? PJ Williams. He was not playing like his old self. tentative.

Secondary is young and it showed. a bunch of individuals out there. not a unit

DL can be handled with a single blocking scheme.

Offense? Strief goes down and it was all over with. we all knew it.

On the bright side we did not get hammered as bad as one would have thought on the score board.

Pats coming of a loss next week? oh man

ChrisXVI 09-11-2017 09:18 PM

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The Adrian Peterson signing just didn't make any sense. This isn't Madden. He looks bad in our offense and he's already frustrated by Sean Payton. This is clearly Alvin Kamara's team now as far as the RB position is concerned.

halloween 65 09-11-2017 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 763436)
Could start following Cleveland. Can always count on them...

Cleveland has a good D and actually played well. They are about 2 pieces away from being pretty good.

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 09:20 PM

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If Payton doesn't start winning, this locker room is going to get sour real quick.

nola_swammi 09-11-2017 09:24 PM

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Well I drop the saints d off my fantasy. have faith in the players but not Allen

Tobias-Reiper 09-11-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 763403)
Why on earth was Allen playing zone inside the 20 yard line? That's bad decision making.

Because Allen is not a DC.
And to think, when Allen was brought in, Jim Schwartz was available...

Danno 09-11-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 763437)
Lots of junk yards last season and just about always playing from behind does that. 800 or so passing yards were from that last season but being desperate playing catch up does that. Our best O we ever had was 2013, that was electric.

We had very few junk yards last year

neugey 09-11-2017 09:31 PM

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The game has passed Payton by. We don't understand the current meta of the NFL - be fairly simple but very versatile. Lots of play action with quick passing to negate the linebackers and the defensive speed in the NFL. The Lions, Falcons and now the Vikings seem to implement this pretty well, among other teams.

Our playbook is voluminous and we are trying to win by constantly rotating offensive personnel. And then on defense where a personnel rotation/benching is needed most (Devante), we do nothing.

We are bringing a swiss army knife to a gunfight, and it seems more and more likely Payton will go down with said swiss army knife.

ChrisXVI 09-11-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 763459)
The game has passed Payton by. We don't understand the current meta of the NFL - be fairly simple but very versatile. Lots of play action with quick passing to negate the linebackers and the defensive speed in the NFL. The Lions, Falcons and now the Vikings seem to implement this pretty well, among other teams.

Our playbook is voluminous and we are trying to win by constantly rotating offensive personnel. And then on defense where a personnel rotation/benching is needed most (Devante), we do nothing.

We are bringing a swiss army knife to a gunfight, and it seems more and more likely Payton will go down with said swiss army knife.

Just read a very similar opinion over at WalterFootball:

I thought Sean Payton had an awful performance. His play-calling was terribly predictable; his team ran the ball almost every single time Peterson was on the field. Payton also gave the Vikings a free touchdown right before halftime, calling two timeouts when it wasn't clear if Minnesota could convert a first down deep in its own territory. Payton also made very poor decisions in the red zone, whether it was running the ball too frequently or kicking a field goal late in the third quarter when a touchdown was needed. Payton was once known as one of the top coaches in the NFL, but it's fair to wonder if, as with Jeff Fisher, the game has passed him by.

jeanpierre 09-11-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 763473)
Just read a very similar opinion over at WalterFootball:

I thought Sean Payton had an awful performance. His play-calling was terribly predictable; his team ran the ball almost every single time Peterson was on the field. Payton also gave the Vikings a free touchdown right before halftime, calling two timeouts when it wasn't clear if Minnesota could convert a first down deep in its own territory. Payton also made very poor decisions in the red zone, whether it was running the ball too frequently or kicking a field goal late in the third quarter when a touchdown was needed. Payton was once known as one of the top coaches in the NFL, but it's fair to wonder if, as with Jeff Fisher, the game has passed him by.

Didn't Fisher get appointed to the Competition Committee?!?

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 763492)
Didn't Fisher get appointed to the Competition Committee?!?

Uh oh

Rell&Gold 09-11-2017 10:27 PM

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What does "padded yards" have to do with anything in the loss

pherein 09-11-2017 10:28 PM

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NE next week we might be looking at 0-2

AlaskaSaints 09-11-2017 10:30 PM

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:YAWN:

Time for the "we haven't gelled yet, it's early" threads.

Ticket prices will DROP and Season Ticket seats will FLOW.

WillMacKenzie 09-11-2017 10:31 PM

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5th preseason game, nothing more

K Major 09-11-2017 10:35 PM

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Zero pass rush whatsoever.

Devante' Harris had no business out on the boundary covering Diggs. Bad coaching decision to have Crawley sit this one out. Back seven looked horrible. Far too many receivers running WIDE open.

I've grown tired of the Payton regime. It's no longer effective.

We will be lucky to win 8 games.

WillSaints81 09-11-2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 763454)
We had very few junk yards last year

Atlanta(week 3)
Carolina(week 11)
@Atlanta(week 17)

No, but when we did have those few it was in important games!

K Major 09-11-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 763515)
NE next week we might be looking at 0-2

This defense isn't ready for Brady, Bellicheck in week #2 on a short week. We let a mediocre, immobile QB look like a HOF tonight... poor decisions, predictable play calling, personnel decisions. Dennis Allen gets an F tonight.

Same ole story. It's tired.

Side note - MN defensive front is legit... specifically Hunter and Kendricks.

Enjoy the rest of your week.

Rsanders24 09-11-2017 10:45 PM

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That was the most yards the Vikings compiled in three years. They better be looking for CB and OT tonight.

Rell&Gold 09-11-2017 10:45 PM

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Ill blame payton for choosing the terrible DC but not for the defensive play

Rell&Gold 09-11-2017 10:48 PM

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Dennis Allen needs to go...Im not mad for some of you wanting Payton gone totally understandable...but Dennis Allen just SUCKS flat out..how do you have a linebacker matched up on a wr on multiple occasions

halloween 65 09-11-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 763530)
Dennis Allen needs to go...Im not mad for some of you wanting Payton gone totally understandable...but Dennis Allen just SUCKS flat out..how do you have a linebacker matched up on a wr on multiple occasions

If we go 0-3 the sooner he goes the better.


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