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Plays that define our season....ball tipped and two players run into each other trying to catch it.....

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Nah...we definitely looked worse than the Patriots. Our offense was trash expect for a few plays from Lewis and that TD in garbage time. On defense, everything we worked on and saw in pre-season went out the window....coverage was pitiful and pressure on the QB was non existent. We barely made Bradford move except for on play actions.

In a week where we saw multiple defenses make outstanding plays....ours just came to the game....smh

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To be fair, they looked really bad for 1 quarter (Pats were ahead 27-21 at the beginning of the 4th quarter), and while the KC-NE game may very well signal the beginning of the end for the Patriots as we know them, no one is saying "same old Pats". I think most everyone would be surprised if the Pats ended the season with less than 10 wins. No one would be surprised if the Saints ended 7-9.

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PJ should have been on the outside . He is not and never has been good on the inside. Harris should be on the street.

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I just don't understand how it's so easy for us to see that PJ should be outside with Sterling Moore at the nickel.

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I blame the coaches here and the inability to make adjustments. Harris should not have been allowed back on the field after the first TD. Poor game plan lack of effort on the players. If Payton (Mickey Loomis) and Brees are here next year I am going to be a Pittsburg fan from here on out.

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Worst part: "We may have lost the game but you'll be feeling pretty good tomorrow"

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Same 'ol Saints, different day. No pass rush. Bad coverage. Giving up big plays. Poor clock management. Forcing the ball to one player (Kamara). Ridiculous sub patterns on offense. Ingram can run, catch and block. He needs to be on the field until he raises his hand. Too much zone. Attack on defense. Try to win instead of trying not to lose.

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I was disappointed by the lack of aggressiveness on offense. Yes, losing Strief had a lot to do with that. The defense didn't play with the same intensity that they showed in the preseason. That can be addressed. We need Armstead back soon.

Looks like I have to adjust my projected record to 15-1.

:bng:

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Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8

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I thought that was going to be the combo.

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Exactly.

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Nope. I never stop believing, my friend. I leave that to others.

:D

:bng:

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I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down.

And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome.

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I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball.

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He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie.

I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays.

Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday.


Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week.

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Very good point about DA and Harris.

I don't understand why Harris was even out there, after Harris got beat the 50th time they should have put Lattimore against Diggs and see what he could do.

The thing that is most disappointing is we all bought into the hype and they've made me feel foolish.

I've completely lost faith in Payton, DA only has a job because they are buddies, Payton essentially wants a "yes man" and DA will never argue with him.

Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?
 

Here's something for you guys... First Vikings offensive play of the game our defense only had 10 men on the field. We had how long to prepare for that?

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I saw a few positives last night. Klein was definitely the best signing in the offseason! And though I was not high on the drafting of Anzelone, he is making me change my mind. I also liked the dedication to the run game. Special teams looked pretty good, too.

There are too many negatives from that game, though. If we don't get Armstead and Streif back soon, Brees is in trouble. Play calling was really strange on offense, even with the balance. It seemed they were dedicated to the running game, but then they didn't use play action off of it. They'd just motion the back out.

The Vikes called the same two plays many times and it seemed to work every time. Where was the aggression? Where were the other cornerbacks after Harris proved he couldn't cover anyone?

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Somebody referenced the Jags earlier. They have the young & inexperienced D, too. They completely stomped a subpar Texans O (watched it), and someone coached them & told them not to use the crutch of inexperience. They were solid at D playcalling & personnel matchups where we blew chunks at them both. We have about the same experience & talent on D, but we let Bradford throw all over us with a patchwork O Line (seriously?) plus continually had Harris vs Diggs (seriously?).

I'll give them a very thin pass, but if we're seeing this 3 out of the next 4, heads should roll come playoff time cause we'll be sitting at the house.

The inexperience excuse is getting old, precisely why it is THE #1 worst excuse.

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Defensive play calling. We were in zone long past the point when it was obviously not working. We needed to blitz more. The 4 man rush wasn't getting it done. Bradford was too comfortable in the pocket. Playing Harris over Moore was a mistake. Keeping Harris in the game was just stupid. Dennis Allen completely blew it.

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I made the exact comment to fam about not seeing any stunts. We didn't do it once from what I saw. We had better play calling in the preseason ffs. Real game comes and its as vanilla as can be?? WTF. Once you see they keep smoking us at ease, it's time to change. Bring pressure..why is this so hard to do.

Obviously, they thought we could get through there O line with just the front four. But when it is not working, you have to adjust. Where was the adjustment?? DA did a pretty good job with that last year. This loss is just as much if not more on the coaching staff and there game plan.

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It seems like we sustained every Vikings drive with a penalty

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No, not on that particular play. His route was a stop and go, defender bit and TLL was off to the races. Perfect separation but Drew (he was under a lot of heat) over threw him because he had no time to set his feet.

Side note - the only thing TLL lacks is size. Dude is a gamer.

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Last rant on the disappointment vs Vikes ...

Kenny Vaccarro. I'm in the minority on this board but this guy has been disappointing for me. At times, he plays way too aggressive, undisciplined & has bad technique.

IIRC, we were in zone coverage and Lattimore let his man go (assuming he'd have safety help) but he was late. Result ... TD. KV is in a contract year and I see no reason to throw the Wells Fargo truck at him.

He needs a good deal of study in the film room, re group and bring a better performance against New England.

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I'm with you in that minority. I think I said in the game day thread... What does Vacarro do well exactly? The occasional big hit? Half the time those get flagged anyway.

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Coaching comes first to me because this team just didn't look ready to play on either side of the ball. Defense stumbled, Offense stumbled (which is kinda weird to say since they were in the red zone 5 times). It is a real head scratcher to me also the game plan concerning the running attack, I understand dedicating to the run, but after 3 quarters of the same result, time to switch gears a little.

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I've been wanting him gone. Not suprizing to me in the least, he makes bone headed plays more than good plays. He looks good running around like a chicken with his head cut off and talks a good game in front of reporters but a enforcer at SS he doesn't have a clue. 5th season. Man I wanted Peppers bad.

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Execution on both sides of the ball, it was like everyone had their head up their ass after that first defensive stop

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Everything! Face the facts. There is no hope for this team. There will be 4 years of losing seasons. I'm so disgusted I can't find the words to express my disappointment. It makes me want to throw up in my mouth.

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The Patriots are licking their chops. Blowout.

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So much trash being talked about the saints right now. I sure hope they can get it together. Very disappointing right now.

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No way we blow them out. We'll win but I doubt we'll blow them out. 31-23 maybe. Maybe 38-17.

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i'm gonna blame roger goodhell for pitting us in a new stadium opening, the big AP deal going home to fail. i had no confidence in this game that we would win . it was a huge feat. that defense with new starters on our side, hum. we blew great chances to make there defense fold a little but gees 3 field goals on great drives, thats a win for them. we need a win at home to cure all.

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Most disappointing for me was the dismal red zone efficiency, followed by secondary play throughout....actually both sucked equally. But week one some times can present some false positives. Now that I've had a few hours to dry out, gonna give em a few weeks before i decide where I'm leaning.

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Not going to bail on our beloved saints. Lets hope that was ordinary week 1 jitters.

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I'm disappointed in the time-share approach with the RBs just give it to either Ingram or Peterson and let them pound it. They both need touches to be effective.