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Danno 09-14-2017 08:54 PM

Adrian Peterson - 'I Didn't Sign Up for 9 Snaps'
 
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Adrian Peterson Says After Saints Debut He 'Didn't Sign Up for 9 Snaps'

New Orleans Saints running back Adrian Peterson commented on his low usage in his team's 29-19 defeat to the Minnesota Vikings on Monday.

"I didn't sign up for nine snaps, though, but unfortunately that's the way the game played out," Peterson said Thursday, per USA Today's Kevin Spain. "In my mind, personally, I knew it was gonna take some adjusting. You know, me and Mark [Ingram] played in the last preseason game, and [Alvin Kamara] didn't even play that game. So with all three of us being out there, I knew it would take a game or so to kind of get adjusted."


Peterson also acknowledged what appeared to be a heated moment between he and Saints head coach Sean Peyton during the game.

The seven-time Pro Bowler said the exchange was "definitely overdramatized."

Peterson ran for 18 yards on six carries in the loss. According to Pro Football Reference, his carry total tied a career low, and his rushing total tied his third-worst output.

Peterson was a somewhat surprising addition to a Saints team that was welcoming back Ingram, who hit 1,000-plus rushing yards for the first time in his NFL career in 2016. New Orleans also traded up in the third round of the 2017 draft to select Kamara.

And it's not like the running game has been a staple of the Saints offense since Drew Brees took over at quarterback. Even at 37, he led the NFL in passing attempts (673) in 2016.

Perhaps New Orleans saw signing Peterson and picking up Kamara as a way to take some pressure off Brees as he approaches what may be the twilight of his career. Still, finding a way to keep Ingram, Peterson and Kamara happy won't be easy for Payton, and the Vikings game was evidence of that.
Cut this child beatin' thug yesterday! Gawd I hate this loser!

MatthewT 09-14-2017 08:58 PM

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Sounding like a soon to be released AP. It's obvious to me the Saints are not in position to run the ball enough to keep everyone happy, build around Karmara and be done.

QBREES9 09-14-2017 09:19 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson - 'I Didn't Sign Up for 9 Snaps'
 
No you did. But we throw the ball.

claus808 09-14-2017 09:39 PM

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I have friends who personally know Peterson. "Child beating," c'mon man.

nola_swammi 09-14-2017 09:55 PM

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Child beating! Whatever! Give him the dayum ball or trade him so I can get some fantasy points

burningmetal 09-14-2017 10:06 PM

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We know you hate him, Danno. There's nothing unusual about his reaction to me, though. It would probably be better if he said nothing, but given the fact that he barely touched the ball after I would presume having been promised at least 15 touches a game, it doesn't surprise me that he isn't thrilled about it.

At least he didn't throw a tantrum after a teammate scored a touchdown, instead of himself, like Ingram did last year.

spkb25 09-14-2017 10:13 PM

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Cut SP.

neugey 09-14-2017 10:31 PM

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Notice AP said 'snaps', not carries. Sean's usage of AP was horrendous and I'm with AP on this one. AP is a decent pass blocker and he can catch well enough to go on checkdown routes. Let the man on the field so the defense can worry about being isolated with him one on one. Having a rookie on the field 2-3 times what AP was is insane.

Utah_Saint 09-14-2017 11:31 PM

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That headline made it sound like he was *****in but the rest of what he said sounded like he understood why he only got 9 snaps.

Between Strief goin down, complete failure in the redone and having to play catch up the entire second half, the game didn't work toward Peterson's strengths. His time will come. And I hope he balls out.

hagan714 09-15-2017 02:48 AM

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without an OL? kinda of a stupid move to try to pound the rock

Seer1 09-15-2017 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 764098)
without an DL? kinda of a stupid move to try to pound the rock

FIFY Couldn't afford to run the clock out with Bradford stealing all of our lunch money...

rezburna 09-15-2017 06:33 AM

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We shouldn't have signed him if we weren't going to utilize him.

xan 09-15-2017 06:38 AM

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I didn't sign up for 9 bleating whinges.

Beastmode 09-15-2017 08:04 AM

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There will be games where he gets a lot of work. I thought on paper the game plan was fine. Heavy dose of Kamara, hardly any footage on him. Didn't work out but it made sense. I could see AP getting more carries this week with draws and play action. Short ball is not going to work with the Pats.

K Major 09-15-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 764086)
It would probably be better if he said nothing, but given the fact that he barely touched the ball after I would presume having been promised at least 15 touches a game, it doesn't surprise me that he isn't thrilled about it.

Yep.

Side note - his initial run was our longest run of the game.

I just don't get the hate for Adrian.

K Major 09-15-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 764090)
Notice AP said 'snaps', not carries. Sean's usage of AP was horrendous and I'm with AP on this one. AP is a decent pass blocker and he can catch well enough to go on checkdown routes. Let the man on the field so the defense can worry about being isolated with him one on one. Having a rookie on the field 2-3 times what AP was is insane.

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"...but unfortunately that's the way the game played out." This is why to me, this should be a non issue. That last part says AP understands how the game unfolded, and implies he agreed with it.

If you hadn't seen the video, watch it. Media has taken this out of context and making more out of it than it is.

OldMaid 09-15-2017 09:25 AM

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Professionally and personally, Saints should not have signed him.

NOLA54 09-15-2017 09:35 AM

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AP is right. SP told him he wanted to run the ball to take pressure off of Brees. This is why AP signed.

ikecomp 09-15-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 764122)
AP is right. SP told him he wanted to run the ball to take pressure off of Brees. This is why AP signed.

Agreed. I think we all know that this is not the high flying big play offense from 2011 and earlier. Our oline isn't as good, we don't take as many big play shots, and for some reason payton loves running useless bubble screens for no yards.

If we don't plan to return to the days of quick strike aggressive play calls that put fear in defensive coordinators hearts we need to accept it and commit to running the ball. When you watch payton call plays it's like he wants to commit to the run but the first time there is a hiccup with the run game he just completely abandons it.

To be honest, I would love to see our team go no huddle and mix the pass with the run. Brees is smart enough to have sustained success doing this instead of waiting on Payton to perform a dozen substitutions before running a play for zero yards.

73Saint 09-15-2017 10:10 AM

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This is just as much on AP as it is SP. I distinctly remember him saying he had options, and before season started Saints seemed like a good fit BECAUSE of the offensive depth. Now, one game in, all of that seems to be forgotten. Settle down, take a deep breath and see how this plays out. One injury to one of our RBs happens, and we are all singing a different tune.

RaginCajun83 09-15-2017 10:44 AM

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What did he expect? Sean Payton calls the offense, the run game is an afterthought if it doesn't work by the 2nd offensive series

foreverfan 09-15-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764107)
We shouldn't have signed him if we weren't going to utilize him.

So the question is... Do we really need another over the hill workout warrior? :help:

https://i.imgur.com/9hpJcPO.gif

Rugby Saint II 09-15-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 764132)
So the question is... Do we really need another over the hill workout warrior? :help:

https://i.imgur.com/9hpJcPO.gif

If you are suggesting I try out for the team forget about it. Rugby is my life now.;)

llaguardia81 09-15-2017 12:35 PM

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AP has every right to be angry. Payton is a stubborn jackass and that is partially why the Saints have gone 7-9 these past three years. Kamara is a rookie and doesn't need to have that many snaps. It should be the Peterson/Ingram show. Kamara will have his time later.

neugey 09-15-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 764119)
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"...but unfortunately that's the way the game played out." This is why to me, this should be a non issue. That last part says AP understands how the game unfolded, and implies he agreed with it.

If you hadn't seen the video, watch it. Media has taken this out of context and making more out of it than it is.

IMO I don't think AP understands it or agrees with it, as much as he is taking the high road. Credit to him.

You can argue that Kamara is more versatile and that's why he was in the game so much late, but the fact is Kamara is not going to break tackles like AP can. One or two broken tackles can generate major yardage and instant offense. Payton is selling AP short.

Utah_Saint 09-15-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by llaguardia81 (Post 764144)
AP has every right to be angry. Payton is a stubborn jackass and that is partially why the Saints have gone 7-9 these past three years. Kamara is a rookie and doesn't need to have that many snaps. It should be the Peterson/Ingram show. Kamara will have his time later.

Welcome to the B&G forums.

I disagree. First, if you read his entire quote, he doesn't sound angry. It sounds like he understood the situation in the game didn't fit a "ground and pound" approach. They were averaging 2.8 yards per carry so the running game wasn't working.

Secondly, he's got no right to be angry anyway. He signed on a team that already had a thousand yard rusher so he knew coming in he wouldn't be a bell cow back anyway. Peterson's own reputation keeps him off the field in obvious passing situations. He's not known as a pass catcher and his ability to pick up the blitz has always been criticized.

And whether Kamara is a rookie or not is of no relevance. A pass catching scat back is a great asset in a hurry up offense. Either check downs in the flats or draw plays they're great to have when the defensive line is dominating your offensive line.

saintfan 09-15-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by llaguardia81 (Post 764144)
AP has every right to be angry. Payton is a stubborn jackass and that is partially why the Saints have gone 7-9 these past three years. Kamara is a rookie and doesn't need to have that many snaps. It should be the Peterson/Ingram show. Kamara will have his time later.

+ 1 on the welcome to B&G! Everyone is nice here except in the political forum where we all become meanies...

:bng:

skymike 09-15-2017 08:33 PM

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Trade him and Ingram for some offensive linemen.
Use Kamara & Travaris Cadet for our 8 runs per game.

I personally dont care if we pass the whole game.
We cannot run.
We shouldnt pretend we can.
We shouldnt waste downs on getting stuffed, just so we can say we tried to run.
Just pass the damn ball, and dont worry what everyone says, Payton. You're out the door anyway, if you dont take us deep into the playoffs.

Seer1 09-15-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 764171)
Trade him and Ingram for some offensive linemen.
Use Kamara & Travaris Cadet for our 8 runs per game.

I personally dont care if we pass the whole game.
We cannot run.
We shouldnt pretend we can.
We shouldnt waste downs on getting stuffed, just so we can say we tried to run.
Just pass the damn ball, and dont worry what everyone says, Payton. You're out the door anyway, if you dont take us deep into the playoffs.

Brutal, but damned hard to argue with.

Seer1 09-15-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 764132)
So the question is... Do we really need another over the hill workout warrior? :help:

https://i.imgur.com/9hpJcPO.gif

Damn Forever, this is the best laugh I've had since Monday night!

neugey 09-15-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 764171)
Trade him and Ingram for some offensive linemen.
Use Kamara & Travaris Cadet for our 8 runs per game.

I personally dont care if we pass the whole game.
We cannot run.
We shouldnt pretend we can.
We shouldnt waste downs on getting stuffed, just so we can say we tried to run.
Just pass the damn ball, and dont worry what everyone says, Payton. You're out the door anyway, if you dont take us deep into the playoffs.

IMO this would only work if we really embraced the run and shoot and sped up the tempo. Payton's too stuck in his ways to make those kind of changes, and we'd just get exposed like we do now.

Beastmode 09-15-2017 09:28 PM

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Give him 30 carries and be done with it. Might as well since the defense could not stop a Albertson's plastic bag.

The Dude 09-15-2017 11:57 PM

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I thought that's exactly why he signed them. Take pressure off Drew

jeanpierre 09-16-2017 01:45 AM

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We were up 6-3 with a balanced rush-pass attack, even though it was often 1-2 yards and a pile of astro-turf...

The Dude 09-16-2017 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ikecomp (Post 764125)
Agreed. I think we all know that this is not the high flying big play offense from 2011 and earlier. Our oline isn't as good, we don't take as many big play shots, and for some reason payton loves running useless bubble screens for no yards.

If we don't plan to return to the days of quick strike aggressive play calls that put fear in defensive coordinators hearts we need to accept it and commit to running the ball. When you watch payton call plays it's like he wants to commit to the run but the first time there is a hiccup with the run game he just completely abandons it.

To be honest, I would love to see our team go no huddle and mix the pass with the run. Brees is smart enough to have sustained success doing this instead of waiting on Payton to perform a dozen substitutions before running a play for zero yards.

And who was calling the plays in 2011?

spkb25 09-16-2017 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 764108)
I didn't sign up for 9 bleating whinges.


burningmetal 09-16-2017 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 764233)
We were up 6-3 with a balanced rush-pass attack, even though it was often 1-2 yards and a pile of astro-turf...

I like you, jeanpierre, but I don't see why you consider the early 6-3 lead to be a sign that the running game was effective.

We got two field goals in spite of poor rushing numbers, early, and also settled for said field goals in part because we tried to run the ball once we got into the redzone. Then, our defense completely collapsed. There is no way they had any chance of competing (not that they did, anyway) with the Vikings, at that point, by taking 7-8 minutes to methodically sludge their way down the field.

I would love to be able to run the ball, and think it is very important, even in today's game. But if it's not there, it's not there. We needed to force the issue with some downfield throws, much earlier in the game when it was apparent we could neither run nor stop anybody, but instead we stayed predictable and conservative, with the short passing game, until it was too late.

vpheughan 09-16-2017 09:08 AM

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Think back to this statement by Sean Payton: "The only reason Mark Ingram wouldn't be rookie of the year is me"


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