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CheramieIII 09-16-2017 03:43 PM

Josh Rosen
 
Some were starting to anoint Josh Rosen as the future of the Saints at QB. Well, they got beat today by a Memphis team that is 50th in total defense and not even ranked in the top 50 in offense. Rosen had 4 TD's and 2 INT's.

Texas A&M should've beat UCLA but beat themselves instead. Should've been a couple more INT's from Rosen in this one.

They beat Hawaii by 33 and Hawaii's defense is ranked 41st in the country.

UCLA had the 19th ranked offense in the country. Rosen has already attempted 140 passes in just 3 games. If you throw that many times you get a lot of yards and more TD's than most.

I'm not trying to cut him down. I'm just saying he's human right now and I will still wait to give him my vote until it's real game time and I mean USC!

Seer1 09-16-2017 07:39 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
More than one player on a team Cheramie. Not a huge fan of any college QB this early in the season, but the Heisman and the W-L record is about the last thing to use when looking for possibly a successful QB heading to the pros.

CheramieIII 09-16-2017 07:46 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 764328)
More than one player on a team Cheramie. Not a huge fan of any college QB this early in the season, but the Heisman and the W-L record is about the last thing to use when looking for possibly a successful QB heading to the pros.

Not saying it's not a team, like the headline said their margin for error is very small. Most of their games will end this way. Like I said not cutting him down just pointing out the obvious.

At least 2 balls in the A&M game should've been intercepted and would've stopped TD drives so let's not anoint him yet and unless we're willing to give up everything for the first pick then all of this discussion is mute anyway.

saintshrimp 09-17-2017 01:33 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Don't matter he is still the guy im pounding the table for everyone loses sometime. The kid is gonna be a star

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 03:44 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
I understand guys but I'm not pounding any tables for this guy until I see more, just pounding my pud!

rezburna 09-17-2017 07:14 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
He's highly touted because he can make all the NFL throws. He has the accuracy and arm strength to make any throw you need him to. His decision making can be coached up. You can't coach his intangibles.

hagan714 09-17-2017 07:21 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
He does not get overly excited when I think of how he fits in the SP system.

Luke Falk, QB, Washington State 6032 214 4.87 #4 rSr
He looks to be the best fit. Great IQ and route progression

Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr
The most experienced QB in the draft and hard to ignore. He is my ghost QB in the draft. David Carr was my last QB ghost I could not shake. I might have him knocking around my head through the draft. Great IQ and route progression also

Josh Rosen QB UCLA 6032 220 4.97 #3 Jr
I really wish he would stay in school but a first round hype is hard to ignore. He has the talent but going through his progression and pocket presence worries me and why I might have him as a QB that will get rushed into starting way too quickly. Can he handle it mentally? He might be a cali mellow kid IMO

rezburna 09-17-2017 08:26 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 764341)
He does not get overly excited when I think of how he fits in the SP system.

Luke Falk, QB, Washington State 6032 214 4.87 #4 rSr
He looks to be the best fit. Great IQ and route progression

Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr
The most experienced QB in the draft and hard to ignore. He is my ghost QB in the draft. David Carr was my last QB ghost I could not shake. I might have him knocking around my head through the draft. Great IQ and route progression also

Josh Rosen QB UCLA 6032 220 4.97 #3 Jr
I really wish he would stay in school but a first round hype is hard to ignore. He has the talent but going through his progression and pocket presence worries me and why I might have him as a QB that will get rushed into starting way too quickly. Can he handle it mentally? He might be a cali mellow kid IMO

Whoever our next QB is, in today's NFL he has to be able to move like Rodgers, Luck, and Wilson to extend plays...especially behind by our current line.

hagan714 09-17-2017 09:01 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764349)
Whoever I next QB is, in today's NFL he has to be able to move like Rodgers, Luck, and Wilson to extend plays...especially behind by our current line.

True enough. the saints bench has shown itself to be full of question marks and the need for possible major upgrades at multi positions. .

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 09:07 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
I was making some observations. He's scares me a little and I guess that's because a lot of highly touted QB's end up busts and he does have some decision issues. The 1st game he threw into coverage twice and good coverage and his receiver just happened to make a catch between the hands of the defender. He had no interceptions against A&M but 2 against Memphis which cost them the game and no I'm not saying it's all on his back but the Interceptions in my opinion belong to the QB no matter what happens. He has the opportunity to eat the ball or throw a stupid pass. Brees has done it into the end zone a few times and we all know how much that hurts.

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 09:14 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Here's a list of QB's that didn't live up to expectations.

NFL Draft: 50 Biggest Quarterback Busts in NFL Draft History | Bleacher Report

hagan714 09-17-2017 11:19 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
I was impressed with

Nick Fitzgerald QB, Mississippi State 6042 227 4.68 #7 rJr

keeping an eye on the kid

Rugby Saint II 09-17-2017 11:29 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Well we need to start looking now..............

rezburna 09-17-2017 11:57 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 764380)
I was impressed with

Nick Fitzgerald QB, Mississippi State 6042 227 4.68 #7 rJr

keeping an eye on the kid

Has accuracy concerns me. The kid from Ole Miss though...Shea Patterson. I like him.

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 01:01 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 764385)
Well we need to start looking now..............

I agree we need to look now because this season is looking like another 7-9 at best and we have one of the highest salaries in the league so we're paying for nothing.

jeanpierre 09-17-2017 03:54 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764340)
He's highly touted because he can make all the NFL throws. He has the accuracy and arm strength to make any throw you need him to. His decision making can be coached up. You can't coach his intangibles.

You mean his (Rosen) selfishness, being a *****, unliked by teammates?

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 04:00 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 764653)
You mean his (Rosen) selfishness, being a *****, unliked by teammates?

Good one JP and here's an article written a year ago.

NFL personnel man questions attitude of UCLA's Josh Rosen - NFL.com

papz 09-17-2017 05:06 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
I'm a Josh Rosen guy. I think he's going to be a very good pro. If we don't draft Drew's eventual successor, I think Teddy Bridgewater would be an interesting trade target if they feel Bradford is their guy up there.

CheramieIII 09-24-2017 06:19 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Rosen watch 40 of 60 for 480 yards 3 TD's and 2 Int's

neugey 09-24-2017 06:42 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Pretty much every QB coming into the NFL has to reinvent and reassert themselves. It's such a different league than the NCAA. You have to grind and see what it takes to survive.

I mean, a guy like Alex Smith who was the #1 QB drafted has had a solid career, but he is nothing like the QB who played in Utah. The cajones mean more than being the perfect pro-style QB on paper.

vpheughan 09-24-2017 10:26 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Who is the C A Jones guy? Maybe the Saints could use a little CAJones about now?

CheramieIII 10-15-2017 02:38 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
J. Rosen
20 / 34
219 Yard
0 TD
3 INT

The Dude 10-15-2017 03:02 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 764306)
Some were starting to anoint Josh Rosen as the future of the Saints at QB. Well, they got beat today by a Memphis team that is 50th in total defense and not even ranked in the top 50 in offense. Rosen had 4 TD's and 2 INT's.

Texas A&M should've beat UCLA but beat themselves instead. Should've been a couple more INT's from Rosen in this one.

They beat Hawaii by 33 and Hawaii's defense is ranked 41st in the country.

UCLA had the 19th ranked offense in the country. Rosen has already attempted 140 passes in just 3 games. If you throw that many times you get a lot of yards and more TD's than most.

I'm not trying to cut him down. I'm just saying he's human right now and I will still wait to give him my vote until it's real game time and I mean USC!

So basically he's kind of like Brees....Inflated stats because he's on a bad team.

|Mitch| 10-15-2017 07:17 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
I'm not going to waste the energy worrying about who's the QB who will replace Brees.

They have far better scouting experience and the means to do so and since I've misplaced Loomis's and Payton's phone number; I have no way to get in touch with them and give my suggestions!

K Major 10-15-2017 11:00 AM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Some scouts have already associated Rosen w/Kaep. His views outside of football could keep some NFL owners away.

CheramieIII 10-15-2017 12:59 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 769902)
So basically he's kind of like Brees....Inflated stats because he's on a bad team.

Not what I said and drew usually doesn't throw 3 int's in a game either.

hagan714 10-15-2017 04:05 PM

Re: Josh Rosen
 
he will be long gone by the time we pick :) home town boy ends up with the 49ers or chargers. charges need to get butts in the seat


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