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saintshrimp 09-17-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 764603)
I have no input that means anything. Nor do you, my friend. I am happy that I can watch my team play each week.

14-2!

:bng:

Thats like saying the captain is gonna fix the hole in this ship titanic. So there is no need to get in the life boat this is my favorite ship

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 04:56 PM

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It's really a crap shoot with coaches but we need to look at the ones who's contracts will be up the end of this season and snatch one before the other team even has time to present an offer. We really do need a defensive guy and that's why I mentioned Patricia. Good Defense has some great players and they stopped us today. James has really turned Penn State around in the most difficult situation ever. Maybe not head coach but we need guys like that.

rezburna 09-17-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 764654)
It's really a crap shoot with coaches but we need to look at the ones who's contracts will be up the end of this season and snatch one before the other team even has time to present an offer. We really do need a defensive guy and that's why I mentioned Patricia. Good Defense has some great players and they stopped us today. James has really turned Penn State around in the most difficult situation ever. Maybe not head coach but we need guys like that.

How much would it cost to get Harbaugh out of Michigan? If we were to keep Brees I know Gruden would to coach him for a year or two. We just need a change. This administration has ran its course.

UK_WhoDat 09-17-2017 05:03 PM

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All I know is that we were put to bed by both Minnesota and New England.
Arguably, New England humiliated us with their last drive, we did not notice and we played as if yards made could become some sort of playoff-defining tie-breaker.

UK_WhoDat 09-17-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 764654)
It's really a crap shoot with coaches but we need to look at the ones who's contracts will be up the end of this season and snatch one before the other team even has time to present an offer. We really do need a defensive guy and that's why I mentioned Patricia. Good Defense has some great players and they stopped us today. James has really turned Penn State around in the most difficult situation ever. Maybe not head coach but we need guys like that.

We need a defensive rebirth. That above all.

Lord_Saint83 09-17-2017 05:08 PM

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Anybody gonna listen to the presser or do we all know the script by now

CheramieIII 09-17-2017 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 764655)
How much would it cost to get Harbaugh out of Michigan? If we were to keep Brees I know Gruden would to coach him for a year or two. We just need a change. This administration has ran its course.

Agreed Rez and I mentioned him a week ago, I don't think it would take much. They've been grumblings at him already and games are just uneasy wins. He would come back in a heart beat if the money was right!

vpheughan 09-17-2017 05:19 PM

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Talk here in Indy is Harbaugh will be the next coach, played for the Colts.

Gruden? Sits in a booth with no pressure and makes millions. He is going to give that up to return to the NFL? He isn't any better judge of QB talent unless the QB is named "Brettttt Favrrrrrre"

Gruden's "Stellar" NFL Record
Regular season: 95–81 (.540)
Postseason: 5–4 (.556)
Career: 100–85 (.541)

How fitting: Sean Payton 2.0!

llaguardia81 09-17-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 764640)
McDaniels? The guy that drafted Tim Tebow in the first round?

Tebow wasn't that bad. He did win a playoff game. Elway was a jackass for what he did to him.

Cruize 09-17-2017 05:42 PM

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I absolutely admit I bought in to the Saints improved defense during the preseason. They got pressure. They hit people. The tackled well. The coverage was close at worst. Oh what a difference the regular season makes. No pressure. Bad tackling. Blown coverages. Teo' and Klien look slow. Anzalone looks like a rookie. The safeties are just bad. I just don't get the complete lack of anything good on defense. It's going to be a LONG year.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 764652)
Thats like saying the captain is gonna fix the hole in this ship titanic. So there is no need to get in the life boat this is my favorite ship

Nope. This ain't life or death. There is no life boat for anyone to get on. This is my ship and there is nothing I can do to change it so I choose to continue to enjoy as much as I can.

:bng:

dizzle88 09-17-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 764677)
I absolutely admit I bought in to the Saints improved defense during the preseason. They got pressure. They hit people. The tackled well. The coverage was close at worst. Oh what a difference the regular season makes. No pressure. Bad tackling. Blown coverages. Teo' and Klien look slow. Anzalone looks like a rookie. The safeties are just bad. I just don't get the complete lack of anything good on defense. It's going to be a LONG year.

Don't forget that we now have no offense either.

They can't convert 3rd downs, they can't create running lanes or string passes together. They can't score more than 2 TD's a game.

The whole team is a mess and SP and loomis are entirely to blame.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 764677)
I absolutely admit I bought in to the Saints improved defense during the preseason. They got pressure. They hit people. The tackled well. The coverage was close at worst. Oh what a difference the regular season makes. No pressure. Bad tackling. Blown coverages. Teo' and Klien look slow. Anzalone looks like a rookie. The safeties are just bad. I just don't get the complete lack of anything good on defense. It's going to be a LONG year.

Let's see, they face the QB that led the NFL in completion % last season in his home on Monday night. Then they face arguably the greatest QB in NFL history the following week.

:bng:

AsylumGuido 09-17-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 764680)
Don't forget that we now have no offense either.

They can't convert 3rd downs, they can't create running lanes or string passes together. They can't score more than 2 TD's a game.

The whole team is a mess and SP and loomis are entirely to blame.

Perhaps you could fire them, huh?

:D

dizzle88 09-17-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 764682)
Perhaps you could fire them, huh?

:D

If our owners had anything about them they would.

AsylumGuido 09-17-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 764684)
If our owners had anything about them they would.

But we all know they don't so ...

I choose to enjoy what life gives me and not stress over it.

:bng:

dizzle88 09-17-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 764686)
But we all know they don't so ...

I choose to enjoy what life gives me and not stress over it.

:bng:

That's fine, I have no problem with that. I'd just like to see a competitive team get fielded, they haven't sniffed the playoffs for 4 years and SP/Loomis need see the mess they have created.

WillMacKenzie 09-17-2017 05:58 PM

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http://www.jasonandtymiller.com/wp-c...cial_Spark.png

Brees lost his spark?

gulfgambler 09-17-2017 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 764689)

He's not the only one!!!!!!!!!!

Do you see a single player on this team that you would want after these 2
games???

jnormand 09-17-2017 06:09 PM

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I just don't see any fire. I mean....Brees gets fired up for games. Why the hell is the defense all fired up and playing crazy in the preseason. Then the season starts and they get duped by Minny and crushed by New England.

I'll say this...if SP can light a fire under this team and go into the bye with a 2-2 record, I'll have a little more faith.

But right now...this team looks uncompetitive and lost. There is no fight, no desire and no hustle.

I understand that we have a tough schedule this year, but if SP can't field a decent team, I want him out.

brees84 09-17-2017 06:22 PM

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Dennis Allen defense:


jnormand 09-17-2017 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 764703)

That's scary as ****.

Halo 09-17-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 764703)
Dennis Allen defense:

...

I'm at this point where I say to myself this isn't just Dennis Allen's defense.
More like "Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis AND Dennis Allen's defense."

Shame on Dennis Allen for allowing SP and Loomis control the quality and size (short) of defensive backfield and raw material to work with.

SP and Loomis need to take as much blame as possible for years of draft, cap money and contract mismanagement.

That said the stats will be shocking. Brady threw for almost 500 yards today and the Saints have started 0-2 and given up over 1,000 yards to opposing teams.

K Major 09-17-2017 06:49 PM

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Fast forward thinking ...

I really hope that when the Payton era comes to an end(and it will), the FO brass should really focus on bringing in a defensive (see Carolina & Atlanta) minded HC.

Side note - at least Lattimore appears to be a stud in the making. He can flat out cover and shut down Cooks today.

WillMacKenzie 09-17-2017 06:51 PM

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I think we need a general manager that can pull it all together

llaguardia81 09-17-2017 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 764715)
Fast forward thinking ...

I really hope that when the Payton era comes to an end(and it will), the FO brass should really focus on bringing in a defensive (see Carolina & Atlanta) minded HC.

Side note - at least Lattimore appears to be a stud in the making. He can flat out cover and shut down Cooks today.

Any particular defensive minded HC?

brees84 09-17-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by llaguardia81 (Post 764717)
Any particular defensive minded HC?

Matt Patricia.

ChrisXVI 09-17-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by llaguardia81 (Post 764717)
Any particular defensive minded HC?

Teryl Austin? Vic Fangio?

I'm debating making a thread about this very topic but I'm fairly certain it'll be spammed by people who believe Payton should never be fired.

CharityMike 09-17-2017 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 764720)
Teryl Austin? Vic Fangio?

I'm debating making a thread about this very topic but I'm fairly certain it'll be spammed by people who believe Payton should never be fired.

Go for it bro. That number of people are steady dwindling as the weeks go by.

K Major 09-17-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by llaguardia81 (Post 764717)
Any particular defensive minded HC?

Kris Richard -Seattle
Matt Patricia - Pats

First two come to mind.

ChrisXVI 09-17-2017 07:36 PM

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Well we do have this going for us:


ChrisXVI 09-17-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 764741)
who is the denver d coord?

Joe Woods. He'd be a great option for a team like us that already has an established QB.

Cruize 09-17-2017 08:16 PM

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What's amazing, I saw a few guys just going through the motions in week one. Today was worse. Several guys have already checked out. Losing hurts. But, having no passion and fire is impossible to watch.

Rell&Gold 09-17-2017 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 764483)
It is his fault? just like it was spags fault? How is spags doing up there with ny?

Maybe shhhhh it is the head coach

Spags sucks.....and so Does DA

j-byrd 09-17-2017 10:45 PM

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I personally dont think the whole team and coaches need to be blown up. I really like our core pieces on both sides of the ball. I would however like to see Payton and DA fired and let the new coach pick his new 4-3 DC. let Carmichael and Brees control the offense. Try that for a season and go from there. Its weird though,Payton comes across as an arrogant a hole who seems to have lost his team seasons ago,but players seem to want to remain here. Maybe because Bree's is here I guess...

jeanpierre 09-17-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by llaguardia81 (Post 764612)
Pittsburgh beats Minnesota 26-9, the same Minnesota team that beat us by 10 Mon night. The same team that is quarterbacked by Sam Bradford, whom everybody was raving about after the game. Mr. Benson, I know you love Sean Payton and all, but this isn't working, it's time.

Sam Bradford was injured-out for today's game, so they weren't the same team playing --> at Pittsburgh, where the Steelers were in their season home opener...


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