Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 

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If we finish under 8-8 again, what's the point? Now if we make the playoffs then I can support

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4 yr $100 isn't bad. I'd take it to keep drew in house. 4 more years he breaks every passing record. We will be freeing up about 15 million in dead next year. That still gives us about 20 to mess with next year. Maybe our new coach will bring in some defensive studs

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He needs to just give it up here. If he signs then it's just all about the money. There really isn't much left for him here. We can't right this ship soon enough for him to still be any good. If I thought we were going to make huge strides in improvement this year then yea, I could see it but we aren't even close. Like Payton he's just going to ride this cash cow as long as he can.
If Payton were to leave it's a different story but as long as he is here nothing is going to change.
Find a young QB in the first round and build a line around him and give him time for the defense to get good enough to help him out.
M

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Agreed unfortunately, Brees is my favourite player of all time but we need to find a trading partner whilst his value is high.

Fire SP and Loomis, demote or fire Allen
Trade Brees, Vaccaro, Peterson for as many picks as we can get and start the rebuilding process - properly this time.

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It's hard for a fanbase to be excited about this news.
Especially without proper staffing and depth at certain positions namely in the defensive backield.

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Agreed. We have so many other issues. Since Drew has been here it seems that coach and his little toys on offense have cost us any chance at even an average defense.

Why sign Drew for 25 million a year when that 100 million will make us so much better on defense over the next 4 years. We haven't had any balance between offense and defense.

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The saints have been discussing a 4 year 40 million extension for SP. It's a banner year

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I'm not buying that they are really going to do something until the offseason - that's how the Saints and Brees' agent have rolled in the past. But if he did sign such a deal like that, it does make things interesting.

Perhaps the new deal does not have a no-trade clause and he could be traded to a team that needs him and they know they have him under contract and he won't walk in summer 2018. Or perhaps this is the organization's way of saying "we don't know where this whole thing is headed, but we are going to make sure Brees survives". Like Jor'El sending baby Kal'el off in a space pod.

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Brees is a masochist huh?

In all seriousness, please don't leave us Drew. Payton can go but not you.

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Did any of you look at the date on that LaCanfora tweet?

9:06 AM - Sep 5, 2016

Sheesh. There are no talks about a long term extension because Brees wants year to year deals just like Manning had over the final few years of his career. They have the same agent. He says he wants the freedom to retire when he is ready.

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First of all, the tweet above is over a year old. Secondly, Brees has a no trade clause and cannot be traded so that is equally meaningless.

:rolleyes:

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So I get that we still suck and everyone is upset about it. Losing is depressing and we do a lot of it. But to those of you saying Brees should leave I have to ask wtf is wrong with you? Step out from under the dark cloud and realize that letting the best player to ever wear a Saints uniform just walk away isn't going to make us better. And no, we cannot trade him because he has a NO TRADE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT. Seriously guys, I have seen that info posted on here countless times and some of you just gloss right over it. He.won't.be.traded, so get that idea out of your head. If the man is willing to stay and put up with the BS why the hell do you want him gone so badly? He looks as good as ever, he's not the problem. I want him here to help right the ship again, so that the next QB doesn't inherit this dumpster fire. I've seen dozens of young QB's careers derailed before they even had a chance because they ended up with a team devoid of talent and the whole mess is put on their shoulders. That's the kind of decision making that can set a franchise adrift for many many years. We're in bad shape now, and maybe Payton does need to go, that will work itself out one way or another, but Drew leaving helps no one but the next team he plays for. Drew is not the problem. Repeat after me, Drew is not the problem.

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You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old.

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Bahahaha!!!

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https://i.imgur.com/iElSYYV.jpg

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice... :lolup:

Meanwhile is this a picture of LaCanfora?

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This just further proves my oft repeated point about how the public can take things totally out of context and treat it as fact.

It is amazing.

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It took me ten seconds because I actually read the entire post instead of hurrying to type a response.

And, yes, that looks just like LaCanfora.

:lolup:

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I would go 3 year $75 million. First two years fully guaranteed. His 39th and 40th years. If he can still play and wants to be a Saint in year three, pay the man.

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I'm a saints fan.
Not a player fan. Now by saying that, would love brees to finish here with a ring. We are no where even close, I'm starting to fall in line with most here. Blow up the team, trade brees get as much as we can. He deserves another ring.Throw the top two outand start all over again.

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So what exactly would you like to see happen? The Browns or Texans QB situation while we try to build a defense? I prefer seeing one of the greatest and future hall of fame QBs on our team as long as he can perform at an elite level which he still can. What young QB do you see available right now? I much prefer not having to worry about the QB position right now like we did in the days of Scott, Douglas, Wilson, Todd, the 2 Billy Joes and the lists goes on. We had one of the best defenses in the league with the Dome Patrol but still would lose because we didn't have a QB and offense. No disrespect to you but I just don't understand the willingness to want to let go one of the greatest Saints players ever unless he wants to leave which I doubt.

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I was looking for the date on the tweet and didnt see it but my heart was in the right place. thx for pointing it out

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Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

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2017 Cap hit

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017

NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac

Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive.

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Based upon the estimated 2018 cap it is closer to 14% which has been around the average for QB's in the NFL for the past decade. That isn't a killer, it is the norm. It would only be a killer if the QB sucked. It is a bargain for an elite QB.

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... and Trevor Simian for the win? Ridiculous cap figure! Is Denver winning any games this year with a QB with such a low cap?

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Drew Is Not The Problem! You want to keep the face of the franchise as long as possible. Especially when he's still playing at an elite level.

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I hope this is a joke.

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The reason Green Bay traded Favre was because they had Rodgers waiting in the wings. We have know one behind Brees. Let the man finish his career a Saint.

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We have problems, but Drew is not one of them. You guys think you're frustrated right now? Let Brees go next year and see what happens. It will be a long time before this team sees another QB like him, if ever (Dan Marino and Dolphins is a good example). Look at what happened with Hoyer and Osweiller. Green Bay is the outlier.

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FIX the DEFENSE!!!!!! Welcome Back DREW!

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I doubt it. They just want to give fans more to read about than how much we suck. He never talks contract during the season and the way this season is going, especially with the lack of protection or running game to take pressure off. I think it would be dumb for him to do so. UNLESS it has just become all about the money now and less so about the team and winning games.
I would put money on him not resigning. Especially if Payton is still here.
I do agree he is our best option. Nobody is going to come around that is any better in the near future.

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He's not performing at an elite level. I don't want him to go but it's time to find his replacement and now. That doesn't mean cut or trade him, that means find someone now who is the future and let him sit and learn. If Drew decides to return.

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I thought you said he is definitely going to be on another NFL roster next season and are willing bet on that fact. Have you changed your mind?

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Lol our new coach? You know if Drew stays, Sean stays.

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If we don't make the playoffs, it's time to move on. Four years is enough.

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Is it time to sign Drew and invest the picks in the first on a QB with the idea of trading Drew down the road if the ship does not right itself? It may take more than one first round pick over the years or just getting lucky

Could you live with Saints loading up on QBs in the draft?

Round 1
Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr

or

Luke Falk, QB, Washington State 6032 214 4.87 #4 rSr

and later

Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma 6002 220 4.64 #6 rSr

or

Keep an eye on the draft stock of
Nick Fitzgerald QB, Mississippi State 6042 227 4.68 #7 rJr

Know trading them is always an option never off the table. You are not married to these picks unless they are the answer. Pull a Pats stunt if not

Let the hunt begin and try to pull a Brett / Payton move down the road?

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It's simple!! Ask "Cleveland, San Francisco, Jacksonville, Houston......."

Payton's an offensive genius! Just ask him!