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WhoDat!656 09-26-2017 08:20 PM
Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
The rules, as stated on pages A62-63 of the league’s*game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players
must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country.

Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific

Halo 09-26-2017 08:43 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
All I read is "...field and bench area should stand at attention"
and "Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline"

Words like "should" and "may" are compulsory terms. Meaning they are essential, yet they are NOT mandatory.

So it's up to teams and NFL to enforce fines and penalties, but Roger Goodell and the NFL owners have made it very clear they will not enforce desecration of the flag by employees of the NFL.

Yet those who tried to honor the victims up 9/11 by wearing special socks, shoes, etc. were threatened with heavy fines.

Consider Bounty Gate, for example, among so many other rules and regulations the NFL has invented in recent times. How many of those rules are EVER enforced with regularity or in fairness???

Bountygate itself is an example of the NFL ONLY enforcing rules where it can gain PR that boost it's case to make settlement with NFL players union and retired players to show it wants to help football player targeting injuries.

saintfan 09-26-2017 08:53 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 766844)
All I read is "...field and bench area should stand at attention"
and "Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline"

Words like "should" and "may" are compulsory terms. Meaning they are essential, yet they are NOT mandatory.

So it's up to teams and NFL to enforce fines and penalties, but Roger Goodell and the NFL owners have made it very clear they will not enforce desecration of the flag by employees of the NFL.

Yet those who tried to honor the victims up 9/11 by wearing special socks, shoes, etc. were threatened with heavy fines.

Consider Bounty Gate, for example, among so many other rules and regulations the NFL has invented in recent times. How many of those rules are EVER enforced with regularity or in fairness???

Bountygate itself is an example of the NFL ONLY enforcing rules where it can gain PR that boost it's case to make settlement with NFL players union and retired players to show it wants to help football player targeting injuries.
And it's all so transparent which is what is maddening to me - I'm listening on the radio and I'm on B&G. I have a Brees Jersey. That's it for me for now. This too shall pass, but I'm gonna sit right here and spend no more money until it does.

SmashMouth 09-26-2017 11:20 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Guck Foodell!

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QBREES9 09-27-2017 12:00 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Time to say good Bye Goodell

jeanpierre 09-27-2017 03:38 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
It's exactly his selective enforcement of the rules that makes him a joke...

Exxcalibur 09-27-2017 04:06 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 766909)
It's exactly his selective enforcement of the rules that makes him a joke...
he's a spineless ****er.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017...erican-anthem/

jeanpierre 09-28-2017 08:07 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exxcalibur (Post 766914)
It's a shame his compensation package has many in this country thinking that kind character is justified...

arsaint 09-28-2017 09:20 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Here's my 10 cent idea:

Players may choose to participate (stand and show proper reverence) or stay in the locker room.

If you choose to stay in the locker room, you will be fined $25,000 per incident and that fine will be distributed amongst charities such as disabled American veterans, wounded warriors, boys and girls clubs, etc.

I think that it's only fair when the NFL fine players for the wrong socks, throwing balls into the stands, celebrations, and other minor "protests".

This would allow the protesting players to actually make a difference in the lives of others instead of being a national spectacle for their own self promotion.

Rugby Saint II 09-28-2017 01:11 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Someone give this information to Trump!

whybag 09-28-2017 09:11 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 766909)
It's exactly his selective enforcement of the rules that makes him a joke...
Him trying to say "the players are using their free speech" is the most galling to me, since the NFL so rigidly bars so much the players say elsewhere. They've even fined players for tweets or not giving press conferences.

spkb25 09-29-2017 05:55 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 766844)
All I read is "...field and bench area should stand at attention"
and "Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline"

Words like "should" and "may" are compulsory terms. Meaning they are essential, yet they are NOT mandatory.

So it's up to teams and NFL to enforce fines and penalties, but Roger Goodell and the NFL owners have made it very clear they will not enforce desecration of the flag by employees of the NFL.

Yet those who tried to honor the victims up 9/11 by wearing special socks, shoes, etc. were threatened with heavy fines.

Consider Bounty Gate, for example, among so many other rules and regulations the NFL has invented in recent times. How many of those rules are EVER enforced with regularity or in fairness???

Bountygate itself is an example of the NFL ONLY enforcing rules where it can gain PR that boost it's case to make settlement with NFL players union and retired players to show it wants to help football player targeting injuries.

CheramieIII 09-29-2017 06:32 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
This time GODdell's selective enforcement of the rules is going to cost him and the NFL a lot of money!

WILLIESEA 09-29-2017 05:14 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
It was amazing to me how some people had turned this protest against police brutality and inequality to showing disrespect for the American flag and the military. Since it was reported that the Russians are influencing this it’s now understandable. Nevertheless, most people recognize the first amendment right of the players to protest, but is asking they would not do it during the playing of the national anthem. The second amendment gives us the right to bear arms. Which I agree with. When asked that we give up our automatic weapons do you remember the response to that request? If we are going to ask them to not protest during the playing of the national anthem, are we willing to give up our automatic weapons?

CheramieIII 09-29-2017 06:41 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLIESEA (Post 767382)
It was amazing to me how some people had turned this protest against police brutality and inequality to showing disrespect for the American flag and the military. Since it was reported that the Russians are influencing this it’s now understandable. Nevertheless, most people recognize the first amendment right of the players to protest, but is asking they would not do it during the playing of the national anthem. The second amendment gives us the right to bear arms. Which I agree with. When asked that we give up our automatic weapons do you remember the response to that request? If we are going to ask them to not protest during the playing of the national anthem, are we willing to give up our automatic weapons?
The original reason was as you stated but people were still mad about when they chose to do it. Why do it during the National Anthem if it's for a totally different reason? Only the corrupt Police are brutal to all criminals not just blacks. Oppression is in the eyes of the beholder. Those who are protesting are not oppressed and most don't seem to care about blacks killing blacks all over America and why not? Those criminals shouldn't have any 2nd amendment rights but if you take that away from them then you leave the good citizens exposed. Criminals don't buy guns.

Danno 09-29-2017 07:32 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Some things don't actually require rules.

Danno 09-29-2017 07:35 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLIESEA (Post 767382)
It was amazing to me how some people had turned this protest against police brutality and inequality to showing disrespect for the American flag and the military. Since it was reported that the Russians are influencing this it’s now understandable. Nevertheless, most people recognize the first amendment right of the players to protest, but is asking they would not do it during the playing of the national anthem. The second amendment gives us the right to bear arms. Which I agree with. When asked that we give up our automatic weapons do you remember the response to that request? If we are going to ask them to not protest during the playing of the national anthem, are we willing to give up our automatic weapons?
Say what? :dunce:

saintfan 09-29-2017 07:37 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 767405)
Some things don't actually require rules.
Men must be governed! LOL

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jeanpierre 09-29-2017 09:31 PM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLIESEA (Post 767382)
It was amazing to me how some people had turned this protest against police brutality and inequality to showing disrespect for the American flag and the military. Since it was reported that the Russians are influencing this it’s now understandable. Nevertheless, most people recognize the first amendment right of the players to protest, but is asking they would not do it during the playing of the national anthem. The second amendment gives us the right to bear arms. Which I agree with. When asked that we give up our automatic weapons do you remember the response to that request? If we are going to ask them to not protest during the playing of the national anthem, are we willing to give up our automatic weapons?
You have less than ten posts in this community and you're gonna try and come in here and drop some incoherent argument about Russians?!?

Are you on George Soros' payroll?

Unlike some users here, I'm not gonna tell you what you can, can not say;
but I'm gonna call four successive bombs and sink your battleship if you try this Bullshinski here...

vpheughan 09-30-2017 08:24 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Ignore the $400 million dollar profit Tom Benson will realize by 2025! Keep blaming his "Employee" Why do you think he paid so well? You wouldn't take $40+ million a year to bear the blame? Yeah, sure you wouldn't!

foreverfan 09-30-2017 08:35 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 767122)
Here's my 10 cent idea:

Players may choose to participate (stand and show proper reverence) or stay in the locker room.

If you choose to stay in the locker room, you will be fined $25,000 per incident and that fine will be distributed amongst charities such as disabled American veterans, wounded warriors, boys and girls clubs, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 767151)
Someone give this information to Trump!
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foreverfan 09-30-2017 08:41 AM
Re: Has anyone checked the actual rule about the anthem? NFL’s game operations manual is very specific
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 767418)
[You have less than ten posts in this community and you're gonna try and come in here and drop some incoherent argument about Russians?!?

Are you on George Soros' payroll?

Unlike some users here, I'm not gonna tell you what you can, can not say;
but I'm gonna call four successive bombs and sink your battleship if you try this Bullshinski here...
An Atifa paid Socialistic "New World Order" Newbie? :popcorn:

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