2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

jeanpierre · 01-30-2018, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

R1P27 WLB Rashaan Evans, Alabama; 6’3”, 234 lbs

R3P27 TE Ian Thomas, Indiana; 6’3”, 256 lbs

R4P27 SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville St.; 6’, 200 lbs

R5P10 DE Kylie Fitts, Utah; 6’3”, 259 lbs

R5P27 WR DaeSean Hamilton, Penn St.; 6’1”, 205 lbs

R6P15 SLB Fred Warner, BYU; 6’3”, 235 lbs

R6P27 CB Taron Johnson, Weber St.; 5’11”, 190 lbs

R7P27 OG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; 6’4”, 304 lbs

I could live with taking Evans there, but I don't think a Sean Payton/Saints pick in the first round will ever be a linebacker again...

Thomas is too short for what we need a TE to do and that is to box out defenders in the red zone and provide an obscene catch radius...

Love the picks of Neal and Fitts where you have them...

Really like Warner and Gossett, but I think they're going a round ahead of where you have them...

Nice list Chris!!!

jeanpierre · 01-30-2018, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Wynn was Pancaking everyone he went against. Would love to add him to the fold. Probably a 2nd rd pick which we don’t have.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Amen! I’d be very, very tempted to take him at 27 and plug him in at LG while kicking Peat out to LT. He would be a slight reach in the first round but that’s kind of subjective. I don’t think you can go wrong reinforcing the trenches with great players like him.

Wynn is only 6' 2" and I'm not sure he's a fit for the Saints interior heavy scheme...

We're seeing his ceiling and he will get used by more experienced, disciplined defensive NFL linemen...

jeanpierre · 01-30-2018, 06:00 PM

Maybe LSU/Saints Hybrids get their wish?

ChrisXVI · 01-31-2018, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Thomas is too short for what we need a TE to do and that is to box out defenders in the red zone and provide an obscene catch radius...

This is where I’m having trouble with us not having a 2nd round pick. All of the really good pass catching TE’s like Gesicki, Hurst, Goedert, etc are all likely to be gone by our 3rd round pick.

jeanpierre · 01-31-2018, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

This is where I’m having trouble with us not having a 2nd round pick. All of the really good pass catching TE’s like Gesicki, Hurst, Goedert, etc are all likely to be gone by our 3rd round pick.

Three Starting Left Tackles - Armstead, Peat, Ramczyk - is one too many; we should've move one last offseason, must do it now...

Move the guy who needs constant adulation of how tough he is and keep the two soldiers who've come in and quietly done their job...

It's a lot easier to find right tackles and big guards, so I'd move Ramczyk to LT, trade Armstead and his cap number...

You'd have a helluva left side and when Peat's rookie deal comes due he can either move him or grab a left tackle...

Ramczyk is the Left Tackle we need...

triman · 02-02-2018, 04:44 PM

Dalton Schultz is a very intriguing project from Stanford . He is an EXceptional blocker
Compares to Jason Witten.
He has good hands and catches the ball with his hands extended away from his body.
This is a player that IMHO will be a better pro than college football player
He wasn't use well in Stanford's offense.
Might be there when we pick in the third rd.

K Major · 02-02-2018, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by triman

He has good hands and catches the ball with his hands extended away from his body.
This is a player that IMHO will be a better pro than college football player
He wasn't use well in Stanford's offense.

Sounds like Kamara doesn't it?

jeanpierre · 02-05-2018, 08:00 AM

2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/02/05)
No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) DE Arden Key, LSU; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 260 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) DE Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 265 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 303 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) NT Vita Vea, Washington; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 332 lbs.

No. 59 (R2, 27) Traded this pick with 2017 NFL Draft (R7, 229) to San Francisco via Chicago for Pick 2017 NFL Draft (R3, 67) Pick, Selected RB Alvin Kamara ROTY
No. 59 (R2, 27) DE Chad Thomas, Miami; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 319 lbs. (+)
No. 59 (R2, 27) TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) NT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 335 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) SS Ronnie Harrison, Alabama; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 216 lbs.

No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Josey Jewell, Iowa; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) SS Kyzir White, West Virginia; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 216 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) DT B.J. Hill, NC State; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 321 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 250 lbs.

Remaining Positions Approximated Until Compensatory Picks Assigned by NFL
No. 133 (R4, 27) OT Alex Cappa, Humboldt St.; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 133 (R4, 27) LB Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 246 lbs.
No. 133 (R4, 27) FS Natrell Jefferson, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 133 (R4, 27) TE Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 248 lbs.
No. 133 (R4, 27) SS Trayvon Henderson, Hawaii; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 204 lbs.

No. 154 (R5, 11) Traded LB Stephone Anthony to Miami for this pick
No. 154 (R5, 11) RG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 154 (R5, 11) LB Fred Warner, BYU; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 235 lbs.
No. 154 (R5, 11) RB Kalen Ballage, Arizona St.; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 222 lbs.
No. 154 (R5, 11) TE Adam Breneman, UMass; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 255 lbs. (+)
No. 154 (R5, 11) WR Trey Quinn, SMU; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 202 lbs.

No. 170 (R5, 27) LB Garret Dooley, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 248 lbs.
No. 170 (R5, 27) LG Taylor Hearn, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 170 (R5, 27) WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 170 (R5, 27) SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville St.; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 206 lbs.
No. 170 (R5, 27) DE Marcell Frazier, Missouri; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 261 lbs.

No. 184 (R6, 15) Traded RB Adrian Peterson to Arizona for this pick
No. 184 (R6, 15) RT Nick Gates, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 184 (R6, 15) DE Justin Lawler, SMU; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 266 lbs.
No. 184 (R6, 15) NT Khalil McKenzie, Jr., Tennessee; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 325 lbs. (+)
No. 184 (R6, 15) DE Kylie Fitts, Utah; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 259 lbs. (+)
No. 184 (R6, 15) SS Jarrod Franklin, Tulane; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 196 (R6, 27) SS Kyle Queiro, Northwestern; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 219 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 27) SS Jordan Martin, Syracuse; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 27) TE Ryan Izzo, Florida St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 27) LG Cole Madison, Washington; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 314 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 27) DE Ade Aruna, Tulane; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 265 lbs.

No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 236 lbs. (+)
No. 229 (R7, 27) SS Cole Reyes, North Dakota; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 216 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 27) RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham; Height: 5’ 9”; Weight: 203 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Andrew Motuapuaka, Virginia Tech; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Frank Ginda, San Jose St.; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 245 lbs.

K Major · 02-05-2018, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/02/05)

No. 27 (R1, 27) DE Arden Key, LSU; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 260 lbs.

Here is a guy who played well as a sophomore but kind of disappeared last season. According to coach "O" Key took a "leave of absence" pre spring camp for personal reasons, then had surgery later in the season & missed a multiple games. He has all of the physical tools to transition at the elite level, however I question his motivation.

At pick #27? ... I think I'd pass.

jeanpierre · 02-05-2018, 08:57 AM

01-30-2018, 05:23 PM	#361
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI R1P27 WLB Rashaan Evans, Alabama; 6’3”, 234 lbs R3P27 TE Ian Thomas, Indiana; 6’3”, 256 lbs R4P27 SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville St.; 6’, 200 lbs R5P10 DE Kylie Fitts, Utah; 6’3”, 259 lbs R5P27 WR DaeSean Hamilton, Penn St.; 6’1”, 205 lbs R6P15 SLB Fred Warner, BYU; 6’3”, 235 lbs R6P27 CB Taron Johnson, Weber St.; 5’11”, 190 lbs R7P27 OG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; 6’4”, 304 lbs I could live with taking Evans there, but I don't think a Sean Payton/Saints pick in the first round will ever be a linebacker again... Thomas is too short for what we need a TE to do and that is to box out defenders in the red zone and provide an obscene catch radius... Love the picks of Neal and Fitts where you have them... Really like Warner and Gossett, but I think they're going a round ahead of where you have them... Nice list Chris!!! ChrisXVI likes this.

01-30-2018, 05:58 PM	#362
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by voodooido Wynn was Pancaking everyone he went against. Would love to add him to the fold. Probably a 2nd rd pick which we don’t have. Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Amen! I’d be very, very tempted to take him at 27 and plug him in at LG while kicking Peat out to LT. He would be a slight reach in the first round but that’s kind of subjective. I don’t think you can go wrong reinforcing the trenches with great players like him. Wynn is only 6' 2" and I'm not sure he's a fit for the Saints interior heavy scheme... We're seeing his ceiling and he will get used by more experienced, disciplined defensive NFL linemen...

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01-31-2018, 07:42 AM	#364
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Thomas is too short for what we need a TE to do and that is to box out defenders in the red zone and provide an obscene catch radius... This is where I’m having trouble with us not having a 2nd round pick. All of the really good pass catching TE’s like Gesicki, Hurst, Goedert, etc are all likely to be gone by our 3rd round pick. jeanpierre likes this.

01-31-2018, 11:27 AM	#365
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI This is where I’m having trouble with us not having a 2nd round pick. All of the really good pass catching TE’s like Gesicki, Hurst, Goedert, etc are all likely to be gone by our 3rd round pick. Three Starting Left Tackles - Armstead, Peat, Ramczyk - is one too many; we should've move one last offseason, must do it now... Move the guy who needs constant adulation of how tough he is and keep the two soldiers who've come in and quietly done their job... It's a lot easier to find right tackles and big guards, so I'd move Ramczyk to LT, trade Armstead and his cap number... You'd have a helluva left side and when Peat's rookie deal comes due he can either move him or grab a left tackle... Ramczyk is the Left Tackle we need...
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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Dalton Schultz is a very intriguing project from Stanford . He is an EXceptional blocker Compares to Jason Witten. He has good hands and catches the ball with his hands extended away from his body. This is a player that IMHO will be a better pro than college football player He wasn't use well in Stanford's offense. Might be there when we pick in the third rd. ChrisXVI and K Major like this.
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02-02-2018, 06:37 PM	#367
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by triman He has good hands and catches the ball with his hands extended away from his body. This is a player that IMHO will be a better pro than college football player He wasn't use well in Stanford's offense. Sounds like Kamara doesn't it?

02-05-2018, 08:00 AM	#368
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints 2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/02/05) No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs. No. 27 (R1, 27) DE Arden Key, LSU; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 260 lbs. No. 27 (R1, 27) DE Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 265 lbs. No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 303 lbs. No. 27 (R1, 27) NT Vita Vea, Washington; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 332 lbs. No. 59 (R2, 27) Traded this pick with 2017 NFL Draft (R7, 229) to San Francisco via Chicago for Pick 2017 NFL Draft (R3, 67) Pick, Selected RB Alvin Kamara ROTY No. 59 (R2, 27) DE Chad Thomas, Miami; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 275 lbs. No. 59 (R2, 27) C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 319 lbs. (+) No. 59 (R2, 27) TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs. No. 59 (R2, 27) NT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 335 lbs. No. 59 (R2, 27) SS Ronnie Harrison, Alabama; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 216 lbs. No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Josey Jewell, Iowa; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 236 lbs. No. 91 (R3, 27) SS Kyzir White, West Virginia; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 216 lbs. No. 91 (R3, 27) DT B.J. Hill, NC State; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 321 lbs. No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs. No. 91 (R3, 27) TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 250 lbs. Remaining Positions Approximated Until Compensatory Picks Assigned by NFL No. 133 (R4, 27) OT Alex Cappa, Humboldt St.; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 309 lbs. No. 133 (R4, 27) LB Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 246 lbs. No. 133 (R4, 27) FS Natrell Jefferson, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs. No. 133 (R4, 27) TE Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 248 lbs. No. 133 (R4, 27) SS Trayvon Henderson, Hawaii; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 204 lbs. No. 154 (R5, 11) Traded LB Stephone Anthony to Miami for this pick No. 154 (R5, 11) RG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 320 lbs. No. 154 (R5, 11) LB Fred Warner, BYU; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 235 lbs. No. 154 (R5, 11) RB Kalen Ballage, Arizona St.; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 222 lbs. No. 154 (R5, 11) TE Adam Breneman, UMass; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 255 lbs. (+) No. 154 (R5, 11) WR Trey Quinn, SMU; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 202 lbs. No. 170 (R5, 27) LB Garret Dooley, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 248 lbs. No. 170 (R5, 27) LG Taylor Hearn, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 320 lbs. No. 170 (R5, 27) WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 215 lbs. No. 170 (R5, 27) SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville St.; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 206 lbs. No. 170 (R5, 27) DE Marcell Frazier, Missouri; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 261 lbs. No. 184 (R6, 15) Traded RB Adrian Peterson to Arizona for this pick No. 184 (R6, 15) RT Nick Gates, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 295 lbs. No. 184 (R6, 15) DE Justin Lawler, SMU; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 266 lbs. No. 184 (R6, 15) NT Khalil McKenzie, Jr., Tennessee; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 325 lbs. (+) No. 184 (R6, 15) DE Kylie Fitts, Utah; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 259 lbs. (+) No. 184 (R6, 15) SS Jarrod Franklin, Tulane; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 205 lbs. No. 196 (R6, 27) SS Kyle Queiro, Northwestern; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 219 lbs. No. 196 (R6, 27) SS Jordan Martin, Syracuse; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 210 lbs. No. 196 (R6, 27) TE Ryan Izzo, Florida St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 245 lbs. No. 196 (R6, 27) LG Cole Madison, Washington; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 314 lbs. No. 196 (R6, 27) DE Ade Aruna, Tulane; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 265 lbs. No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 236 lbs. (+) No. 229 (R7, 27) SS Cole Reyes, North Dakota; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 216 lbs. No. 229 (R7, 27) RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham; Height: 5’ 9”; Weight: 203 lbs. No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Andrew Motuapuaka, Virginia Tech; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 245 lbs. No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Frank Ginda, San Jose St.; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 245 lbs.
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02-05-2018, 08:45 AM	#369
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre 2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/02/05) No. 27 (R1, 27) DE Arden Key, LSU; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 260 lbs. Here is a guy who played well as a sophomore but kind of disappeared last season. According to coach "O" Key took a "leave of absence" pre spring camp for personal reasons, then had surgery later in the season & missed a multiple games. He has all of the physical tools to transition at the elite level, however I question his motivation. At pick #27? ... I think I'd pass.

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