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SmashMouth 10-31-2017 12:19 PM

Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Two former heads of the NFL’s officiating department say Bears tight end Zach Miller was robbed of a touchdown on what turned out to be the last play of his season on Sunday.

Miller, who suffered a serious knee injury as he fell to the ground after catching a pass in the end zone, was initially ruled to have caught the pass. But on replay, V.P. of Officiating Al Riveron ruled that Miller hadn’t maintained control of the ball as he went to the ground.

Riveron’s predecessors Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino, who now work as FOX analysts, both said on their weekly online show that Riveron got it wrong.

“At some point the process of the catch ends, and it ends when he rolls over on the ground with control,” Blandino said. “It was ruled a catch on the field. I didn’t see anything definitive to overturn it and quite frankly, if it had been ruled incomplete on the field, if it had been me in the command center, I would have reversed it to a catch.”

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SmashMouth 10-31-2017 12:20 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Is it me, or are these two much better at making obvious calls than they were when they were employed by the NFL?

jnormand 10-31-2017 12:28 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
If it was it was. We're usually the ones getting screwed. We can't control officiating and there's been plenty of times where the Saints got the **** at the end of the stick.

I'd rather not have something like that contested. It doesn't change the outcome because the game is already over.

blackangold 10-31-2017 12:35 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
I thought it was a catch, but regardless they wouldn't have won. Instead of running the ball at the end of the game we would have opened the offense up, thus no Mark Ingram fumbles.

Can second guess everything and play the what if game all day. What I do know is the announcer for the game was slobbering on the bears jock strap, was embarrassing to listen to their bias.

ScottF 10-31-2017 12:51 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
I was at the Detroit game where we got royally screwed on the interception and partially on the fumble. Usually the call on the field stands, which is BS (and surprising in this case)

saintfan 10-31-2017 02:21 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 773439)
Is it me, or are these two much better at making obvious calls than they were when they were employed by the NFL?

Dilly?

FinSaint 10-31-2017 03:05 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
I was laughing my a$$ off when Blandino stated it must have been when the TE let go of the ball after the play was over. :D

What a tool.

They clearly though he didn't have full control of the ball and that it hit the ground when the TE came down. Now, I'm not saying they were right, but that's how they saw it.

jeanpierre 10-31-2017 04:29 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Ever notice how these MFers come out of the woodwork when it works to the Saints favor???


Where was all the outcry in not one, but two missed calls last year against Denver???

Seer1 10-31-2017 04:32 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Zzzzzzzzz.....

vpheughan 10-31-2017 06:19 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
The keyword here is "FORMER"
And the COWARDLY LION sang "If I Were The King Of The Forest"
There's that word again "IF"

Seer1 10-31-2017 06:33 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Sounding a little cold here, but a guy almost losing his leg on the play doesn't make it a catch. Was just watching Total Access (My nephew Dan Hellie's a talking head on it) and some other guy was going through the play frame by frame. Miller bobbled the ball twice while heading toward the ground and never re-established control before the ball actually hit the ground.

I know, I know. I give my nephew **** for being an NFL minion every chance I get. He doesn't care, he gets to go to all the great games...

Danno 10-31-2017 06:51 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Close call, but I think he scored.

But the amount of calls that went against us is a mountain compared the mole hill of calls in our favor.

So...

https://i.imgur.com/dmXSxli.jpg

WillSaints81 10-31-2017 07:29 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 773448)
I thought it was a catch, but regardless they wouldn't have won. Instead of running the ball at the end of the game we would have opened the offense up, thus no Mark Ingram fumbles.

Can second guess everything and play the what if game all day. What I do know is the announcer for the game was slobbering on the bears jock strap, was embarrassing to listen to their bias.

Are you saying our offense was playing conservative and not trying to put up more points?

The bears were all over the pass yesterday.

Beastmode 10-31-2017 07:54 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
I thought it was a catch but how many times have we been burned by bad calls or no calls? Suck it.

foreverfan 10-31-2017 08:05 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/74bd8...8e33/tenor.gif

Tobias-Reiper 10-31-2017 08:31 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
I didn't think it was a catch. If you look at the replay, as soon as he hits the ground, the ball bounces up. That is what they saw, the ball hitting the ground and bouncing up. Had nothing to do with what happened after he rolled over and let go of the ball.

blackangold 10-31-2017 10:13 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 773541)
Are you saying our offense was playing conservative and not trying to put up more points?

The bears were all over the pass yesterday.

Ya... That's why Brees threw for 300 and was over 80% completions....

bobdog86 10-31-2017 11:28 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Hell, I couldn't watch it again without spitting up in my mouth....looked like a stretch Armstrong when the little wire thing inside finally broke and it was all fouled up, forever just like his knee will be. Hope he can recover from it.

Seer1 11-01-2017 06:27 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 773565)
Ya... That's why Brees threw for 300 and was over 80% completions....

And we decided to run, run, run then have Ingram hand the ball to da Bears 'cause we was so nice.

Cruize 11-01-2017 07:03 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
He did score. Not even close.

subguy 11-01-2017 07:30 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Hindsight is 20/20

Rugby Saint II 11-01-2017 12:39 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Everyone in front of the big screen at my house watching the Saints game thought it was a catch......even I thought it was a catch. I feel bad for the man.

st thomas 11-01-2017 02:25 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 773562)
I didn't think it was a catch. If you look at the replay, as soon as he hits the ground, the ball bounces up. That is what they saw, the ball hitting the ground and bouncing up. Had nothing to do with what happened after he rolled over and let go of the ball.

xactly what the officials saw on the very first replay, the ball was moving on his side and it was what we thought it was and the dicks on officiating who were former refs yes former refs feel ill for miller and :help i feel bad for miller but it is what it is.

jeanpierre 11-01-2017 05:26 PM

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RockyMountainSaint 11-01-2017 05:39 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Scoreboard.

Beastmode 11-01-2017 06:08 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
I watched the official explanation. It was lose the whole time, never had control. The ball never stopped moving basically in his hand or arm or whatever. The ground had nothing to do with it. He never established that split second or so where one can clearly see he "got it".

ScottF 11-01-2017 07:00 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 773652)

well, Riveron had a leg up on the other refs...

Too soon?

AllSaints 11-01-2017 07:37 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
One must possess the ball while ones knee is exploding.... me personally thought it was a catch .... idk but we won whoaaa

Seer1 11-01-2017 09:44 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 773615)
Everyone in front of the big screen at my house watching the Saints game thought it was a catch......even I thought it was a catch. I feel bad for the man.

Feels pretty good for all of you to be wrong once in a while, huh?

vpheughan 11-02-2017 10:05 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Once again putting the IF in B&G!!

WillSaints81 11-02-2017 10:13 PM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 773565)
Ya... That's why Brees threw for 300 and was over 80% completions....

Who cares about completions. Brees connected on some big third down throws to get past mid-field only for the drives to not finish with a score. Ingram fumbled one of them but still. We also were gonna kick a FG anyway on one of his fumbles. Brees also threw passes below the line of scrimmage just to avoid the sack. Is that the oline or is the short-window no longer an option for his arm strength? And did I mention we scored no TDs in the second half.

Tobias-Reiper 11-03-2017 12:41 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
[QUOTE=WillSaints81;773840 Brees connected on some big third down throws to get past mid-field only for the drives to not finish with a score.[/QUOTE]

The Saints only converted two 1st downs.

Seer1 11-03-2017 06:24 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 773845)
The Saints only needed to convert two 1st downs.

FIFY

hitta 11-03-2017 06:37 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
The thing about this play is I think they both skipped over the part where the incompletion actually may have happened. They kept referencing the end, but it's in the middle of the catch you see the ball bounce up(probably off the turf). I think that is the part of the catch that the officials actually saw. Now I don't know for sure that it was an incompletion , but there was definitely something there to debate. Neither the announcers or blandino seemed to even notice it.

Utah_Saint 11-03-2017 09:59 AM

Re: Blandino, Pereira both say Zach Miller scored
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 773840)
Who cares about completions.

Just everyone who's ever watched a football game.

hagan714 11-03-2017 02:32 PM

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a game played by humans and judged by humans always has issues.

cry me a river already. geshhh

When robots and computers take to the field then they have a shot at perfection. Damn computer programs will be human so there goes the perfection of George Jetson football


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