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ScottF 11-06-2017 09:08 PM

Armstead??
 
Any word on the MRI?

down 3 starters...freaking amazing play so far from the O-line

can't get Strief back soon enough at this point

Daboot162 11-06-2017 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 774602)
Any word on the MRI?



down 3 starters...freaking amazing play so far from the O-line



can't get Strief back soon enough at this point



Word is Strief is done for the year and possibly calling it a career. We just signed Bryce Harris back... unfortunately


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Seer1 11-07-2017 06:12 AM

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Maybe change his name to Instead???

jeanpierre 11-07-2017 07:48 AM

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Armstead = Fragile...

Know it's not a popular opinion, but this is why I wanted to trade him before, during the draft...

We've got two proven, known quantity left tackles on the roster already in Peat and Ramczyk...

Get another late first, or early second round pick for him and get another interior lineman...

Hell, do like we do for the skill positions and Ohio State, but just sign and draft offensive linemen from Wisconsin...

foreverfan 11-07-2017 08:01 AM

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Might be time to trade him for a draft pick.

dizzle88 11-07-2017 08:26 AM

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Armstead and Breaux could both end up getting traded.

ScottF 11-07-2017 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daboot162 (Post 774609)
Word is Strief is done for the year and possibly calling it a career. We just signed Bryce Harris back... unfortunately


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Strief will be back week 14

K Major 11-07-2017 09:21 AM

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You probably won't get much info from coach Sean P until Friday as it relates to Armstead's injury.

hagan714 11-07-2017 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 774659)
Armstead = Fragile...

Know it's not a popular opinion, but this is why I wanted to trade him before, during the draft...

We've got two proven, known quantity left tackles on the roster already in Peat and Ramczyk...

Get another late first, or early second round pick for him and get another interior lineman...

Hell, do like we do for the skill positions and Ohio State, but just sign and draft offensive linemen from Wisconsin...

Other option is a hard one.

Do you keep Terron and his inability to stay healthy when?

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap
Cap savings 7.6 M

is on the table?

Stand pat and/or draft yet another OL prospect to groom in 2018?

That is my question.

rezburna 11-07-2017 10:30 AM

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Even if Strief is able to return he shouldn’t be considered anything more than a serviceable back up. It’s time to just move forward with Peat and Ramcyzk as the tackles. Kelemente is fine at Guard, and maybe when Greco is up to speed he can supplant him at that position. LeRubius looked pretty good as well. Decent.

WillSaints81 11-07-2017 07:38 PM

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Armstead will be traded this offseason.

ScottF 11-07-2017 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 774708)
Other option is a hard one.

Do you keep Terron and his inability to stay healthy when?

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap
Cap savings 7.6 M

is on the table?

Stand pat and/or draft yet another OL prospect to groom in 2018?

That is my question.

16.5 million dead next year. Can't afford to trade him

Danno 11-07-2017 08:17 PM

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QBREES9 11-08-2017 12:11 AM

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He's not going anywhere.

Rugby Saint II 11-08-2017 12:09 PM

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If he has value we will trader him. That seems to be the MO from the front office lately. Trade for a draft pick and let Ireland do his thing while we keep the cap down.

Thirty3 11-08-2017 01:37 PM

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Could you imagine LT Armstead, LG Peat, C Unger, RG Ramcyck, RT Strief all healthy?

Seer1 11-08-2017 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 774894)
Could you imagine LT Armstead, LG Peat, C Unger, RG Ramcyck, RT Strief all healthy?

I have, but then I woke up...

hagan714 11-09-2017 02:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 774797)
16.5 million dead next year. Can't afford to trade him

Thats my point

2018
trade him 16.5 million dead and a total of 12M the remaining contract
All for a draft pick to roll the dice on and pray in 2018 that the OL shift will work for 18 games

vs

2019 - give him one last year to stay healthy and a year to reevaluate/adjust the roster.

opt out $7,400,000 dead money and remaining terms of the contract are voided

I prefer the 2019 option if something is to be done with Terron

Never know Terron might take a redo on that contract to stay in 2019. the contract appears to structured to renegotiate

I am betting on a new contract for 2019 lowering that 15M annual cap hit the remaining 3 years of his contract,

jeanpierre 11-09-2017 02:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 774797)
16.5 million dead next year. Can't afford to trade him

Ever heard of sign and trade? There's a premium on Left Tackles in this league and we've got three on the roster and gotta make cap room, if...

we're gonna keep Drew Brees...

we're gonna keep Kenny Vaccaro...

and not even going to mention Delvin Breaux...

...or that Peat's rookie contract will need to be addressed next season...

A team will want his talent and will be willing to do a deal that includes a new contract that shifts the cap hits in the future that they will absorb...

ScottF 11-09-2017 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 774962)
Ever heard of sign and trade? There's a premium on Left Tackles in this league and we've got three on the roster and gotta make cap room, if...

we're gonna keep Drew Brees...

we're gonna keep Kenny Vaccaro...

and not even going to mention Delvin Breaux...

...or that Peat's rookie contract will need to be addressed next season...

A team will want his talent and will be willing to do a deal that includes a new contract that shifts the cap hits in the future that they will absorb...

JP- he is signed thru 2019; we are on the hook until then. Trading or cutting will save us $3,300,000, but the other 13 is ours


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