Saints to hire longtime special teams coach Mike Westhoff:

WhoDat!656 · 11-15-2017, 08:04 PM

Westhoff, 69, retired in 2012 after spending 12 seasons coaches special teams for the Jets, but the Saints apparently have convinced him to come back to the NFL. Westhoff also worked for the Miami Dolphins from 1986-2000.

Saints special teams coordinator Bradford Banta and assistant special teams coach Kevin O'Dea were both at practice Wednesday, so it appears Westhoff is simply an addition to the staff already in place.

Saints to hire longtime special teams coach Mike Westhoff: report | NOLA.com

hagan714 · 11-16-2017, 03:49 AM

an area of concern. Bench quality? coaching?

WhoDat!656 · 11-16-2017, 03:52 AM

Punt and KO returns are one of the few flaws I see in the Saints right now; another being the use of our TEs.

hagan714 · 11-16-2017, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Punt and KO returns are one of the few flaws I see in the Saints right now; another being the use of our TEs.

Not sure it has as much to do the use of the TE but rather the quality of the TE we have.

Fleener is over paid and going to be even more of a cap pain next year.

Hill is Flash in the pan each and every year and can replace Fleener limited impact

Hoomanawanui I can accept the pay and does what he is suppose to.

WhoDat!656 · 11-16-2017, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Not sure it has as much to do the use of the TE but rather the quality of the TE we have.

Fleener is over paid and going to be even more of a cap pain next year.

Hill is Flash in the pan each and every year and can replace Fleener limited impact

Hoomanawanui I can accept the pay and does what he is suppose to.

In somewhat of a defense for Fleener he did have some big shoes to fill as the replacement for Graham but I do agree with your points on our TEs.

Imagine how much more dangerous the Saints could be if they sprinkle a few KO/punt returns in!

MatthewT · 11-16-2017, 05:31 AM

The return game is obviously an issue, need to also keep an eye on Wil Lutz. In the last 4 games, 3 of those games has a missed extra point. That to me is a major area of concern.

Seer1 · 11-16-2017, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

In somewhat of a defense for Fleener he did have some big shoes to fill as the replacement for Graham but I do agree with your points on our TEs.

Imagine how much more dangerous the Saints could be if they sprinkle a few KO/punt returns in!

Shoot, Graham couldn't even fill Graham's shoes. I much prefer who is catching the balls now as to who wasn't in Jimmy's last couple of years with us.

Cruize · 11-16-2017, 06:34 AM

Two things. The blocking on FG's and XP's has been concerning. Plus, the punt returners never seem to field the ball cleanly. Maybe he can help in those area's.

SmashMouth · 11-16-2017, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Westhoff, 69, retired in 2012 after spending 12 seasons coaches special teams for the Jets, but the Saints apparently have convinced him to come back to the NFL. Westhoff also worked for the Miami Dolphins from 1986-2000.

Saints special teams coordinator Bradford Banta and assistant special teams coach Kevin O'Dea were both at practice Wednesday, so it appears Westhoff is simply an addition to the staff already in place.

Saints to hire longtime special teams coach Mike Westhoff: report | NOLA.com

Championship!

K Major · 11-16-2017, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Two things. The blocking on FG's and XP's has been concerning.

Agreed. It needs cleaning up.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints to hire longtime special teams coach Mike Westhoff: Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Punt and KO returns are one of the few flaws I see in the Saints right now; another being the use of our TEs. Not sure it has as much to do the use of the TE but rather the quality of the TE we have. Fleener is over paid and going to be even more of a cap pain next year. Hill is Flash in the pan each and every year and can replace Fleener limited impact Hoomanawanui I can accept the pay and does what he is suppose to.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,094	Re: Saints to hire longtime special teams coach Mike Westhoff: Originally Posted by hagan714 Not sure it has as much to do the use of the TE but rather the quality of the TE we have. Fleener is over paid and going to be even more of a cap pain next year. Hill is Flash in the pan each and every year and can replace Fleener limited impact Hoomanawanui I can accept the pay and does what he is suppose to. In somewhat of a defense for Fleener he did have some big shoes to fill as the replacement for Graham but I do agree with your points on our TEs. Imagine how much more dangerous the Saints could be if they sprinkle a few KO/punt returns in!

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