Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla

saintfan · 11-22-2017, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

If that's the case, the Saints might have a hard time signing him and Drew. They're both going to want a truck load of money.

True, and both deserve it. Personally I'll worry about all that after we win the Super Bowl.

Beastmode · 11-22-2017, 10:28 AM

I doubt he sticks. Thinking we go get a Carlos Hyde for cheaper or work with what we got. I would take Hyde on a 1 year for cheaper and use the remaining coin to get another pass rusher.

AsylumGuido · 11-22-2017, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Yup. 2018 Voids if he makes the pro bowl.

Mark Ingram Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

Sucks for us - good for Mark. He's earned it. Time to pay the man.

There seems to be a little confusion about that. I know that spotrac.com says it voids if he makes either a pro-bowl or is an all-pro selection, but I read somewhere else a few weeks back that said it void if he is named first team all-pro at least once or makes the pro-bowl twice prior to 2018.

I'm not sure what is actually correct.

AsylumGuido · 11-22-2017, 12:03 PM

I found the source here. Mind like a steel trap.

According to ESPN March 2015 -

The deal also includes up to $200,000 in escalators for 2016, and $400,00 in escalators for 2017, based on rushing yards. And the final year can be voided with either two Pro Bowl selections or an All-NFL selection in 2017.

saintfan · 11-22-2017, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There seems to be a little confusion about that. I know that spotrac.com says it voids if he makes either a pro-bowl or is an all-pro selection, but I read somewhere else a few weeks back that said it void if he is named first team all-pro at least once or makes the pro-bowl twice prior to 2018.

I'm not sure what is actually correct.

For sure I have no idea - don't know where I first read or heard about it. My link just turned up in a quick Google search.

jnormand · 11-22-2017, 12:33 PM

Well regardless, I hope he's re-signed. I like MI. He's a great back and already has over 800 yards rushing this year. He should get 1100 or more easily this year.

blackangold · 11-22-2017, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I found the source here. Mind like a steel trap.

According to ESPN March 2015 -

I could be wrong but i believe he has the option to void it, the contract doesn't void automatically. Not that it matters much, because he'll want the payday which he deserves at this point.

SmashMouth · 11-23-2017, 12:10 PM

Top 4 contenders for ProBowl as of now:

Todd Gurley - 187 att, 791 yards (4.2 ypc), 8 TDs
38 rec, 425 yards, 3 TDs, 5 Fumbles (2 Lost)
225 touches, 1216 yards (5.4 ypt), 11 TDs

Kareem Hunt - 173 att, 873 yards (5.0 ypc), 4 TDs
35 rec, 335 yards, 2 TDs, 1 Fumble (1 Lost)
208 touches, 1208 yards (5.8 ypt), 6 TDs

Mark Ingram - 155 att, 806 yards (5.2 ypc), 8 TDs
34 rec, 213 yards, 0 TD, 3 Fumbles (3 Lost)
189 touches, 1019 yards (5.4 ypt), 8 TDs

La'Veon Bell - 232 att, 886 yards (3.8 ypc), 5 TDs
49 rec, 308 yards, 0 TD, 2 Fumbles (1 Lost)
281 touches, 1194 yards (4.2 ypt), 5 TDs

Last 6 games stats:

Gurley - 101 att, 429 yards (4.2 ypc), 4 TDs
18 rec, 191 yards, 0 TD, 1 Fumble (1 Lost)

Hunt - 105 att, 371 yards (3.5 ypc), 0 TD
22 rec, 178 yards, 0 TD

Ingram - 113 att, 636 yards (5.6 ypc), 8 TDs
19 rec, 88 yards, 0 TD, 3 Fumbles (3 Lost)

Bell - 145 att, 562 yards (3.9 ypc), 2 TDs
32 rec, 210 yards, 0 TD, 1 Fumble (1 Lost)

Danno · 11-23-2017, 12:17 PM

So all-pro is the trigger, not pro-bowl (twice)?

Either way I think he'll choose to stay here, much to the Ingram hates chagrin.

SmashMouth · 11-23-2017, 12:20 PM

11-22-2017, 10:19 AM	#11
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla Originally Posted by jnormand If that's the case, the Saints might have a hard time signing him and Drew. They're both going to want a truck load of money. True, and both deserve it. Personally I'll worry about all that after we win the Super Bowl. jnormand and RailBoss like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla I doubt he sticks. Thinking we go get a Carlos Hyde for cheaper or work with what we got. I would take Hyde on a 1 year for cheaper and use the remaining coin to get another pass rusher. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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11-22-2017, 11:55 AM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,806	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla Originally Posted by saintfan Yup. 2018 Voids if he makes the pro bowl. Mark Ingram Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses \| Spotrac Sucks for us - good for Mark. He's earned it. Time to pay the man. There seems to be a little confusion about that. I know that spotrac.com says it voids if he makes either a pro-bowl or is an all-pro selection, but I read somewhere else a few weeks back that said it void if he is named first team all-pro at least once or makes the pro-bowl twice prior to 2018. I'm not sure what is actually correct. Danno likes this.

11-22-2017, 12:03 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,806	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla I found the source here. Mind like a steel trap. According to ESPN March 2015 - The deal also includes up to $200,000 in escalators for 2016, and $400,00 in escalators for 2017, based on rushing yards. And the final year can be voided with either two Pro Bowl selections or an All-NFL selection in 2017. jnormand likes this.

11-22-2017, 12:10 PM	#15
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There seems to be a little confusion about that. I know that spotrac.com says it voids if he makes either a pro-bowl or is an all-pro selection, but I read somewhere else a few weeks back that said it void if he is named first team all-pro at least once or makes the pro-bowl twice prior to 2018. I'm not sure what is actually correct. For sure I have no idea - don't know where I first read or heard about it. My link just turned up in a quick Google search.

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11-22-2017, 12:33 PM	#16
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,785	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla Well regardless, I hope he's re-signed. I like MI. He's a great back and already has over 800 yards rushing this year. He should get 1100 or more easily this year. RailBoss and K Major like this.

11-22-2017, 01:33 PM	#17
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I found the source here. Mind like a steel trap. According to ESPN March 2015 - I could be wrong but i believe he has the option to void it, the contract doesn't void automatically. Not that it matters much, because he'll want the payday which he deserves at this point. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

11-23-2017, 12:10 PM	#18
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,080 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla Top 4 contenders for ProBowl as of now: Todd Gurley - 187 att, 791 yards (4.2 ypc), 8 TDs 38 rec, 425 yards, 3 TDs, 5 Fumbles (2 Lost) 225 touches, 1216 yards (5.4 ypt), 11 TDs Kareem Hunt - 173 att, 873 yards (5.0 ypc), 4 TDs 35 rec, 335 yards, 2 TDs, 1 Fumble (1 Lost) 208 touches, 1208 yards (5.8 ypt), 6 TDs Mark Ingram - 155 att, 806 yards (5.2 ypc), 8 TDs 34 rec, 213 yards, 0 TD, 3 Fumbles (3 Lost) 189 touches, 1019 yards (5.4 ypt), 8 TDs La'Veon Bell - 232 att, 886 yards (3.8 ypc), 5 TDs 49 rec, 308 yards, 0 TD, 2 Fumbles (1 Lost) 281 touches, 1194 yards (4.2 ypt), 5 TDs Last 6 games stats: Gurley - 101 att, 429 yards (4.2 ypc), 4 TDs 18 rec, 191 yards, 0 TD, 1 Fumble (1 Lost) Hunt - 105 att, 371 yards (3.5 ypc), 0 TD 22 rec, 178 yards, 0 TD Ingram - 113 att, 636 yards (5.6 ypc), 8 TDs 19 rec, 88 yards, 0 TD, 3 Fumbles (3 Lost) Bell - 145 att, 562 yards (3.9 ypc), 2 TDs 32 rec, 210 yards, 0 TD, 1 Fumble (1 Lost)

11-23-2017, 12:17 PM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla So all-pro is the trigger, not pro-bowl (twice)? Either way I think he'll choose to stay here, much to the Ingram hates chagrin. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,080 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Mark Ingram named NFC Offensive Pla

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