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We have him yesterday and we win period. In spite of playing a horrible game and in spite of bad offensive line play and a poor showing from the offense. The Rams always beat us. Even when they are ****ty. Difference is that this year they are a very good team. Up until last week they had the number 1 offense.
That being said our defense didn’t do too bad considering injury and the offense they were playing against. losing Okafor hurt. God we could have used him against Gurly.
I think we will be ok. Just stay lucky with injury and we can get 10 wins. Looks like 10-11 wins may be needed for a wild card.
We need to be ready to handle the division. Getting it done at Carolina helps!

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We gave up 354 passing yards yesterday.
Would be nice to have Lattimore and Crawley back in the lineup.

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The team just isn't as good as other top teams in the NFC.

Better for sure.

Just not there yet.

Also, SP will always hinder the run game. Just the way it is.

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I read an interesting stat a few weeks back (I think it was PFF) that stated QBs have a lower passer rating throwing @ Lattimore than throwing at the ground.

I'd say he's super important.

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Super important, but I think he may be the first stone of a building block.

We desperately need a player like Cam Jordan on the opposite side, year after year he delivers with no real help.

I honestly think we need to address the future at QB via this draft. We also need better receivers, Coleman, Snead and Ginn just aren't getting it done.

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Jarvis Landry will become a UFA in 2018 and he's only 24. Interested?

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Absolutely interested, imagine Thomas on one side, Landry on the other, then factor in Kamara, that is dangerous.

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Yeah but, how much $? Is it worth busting the checkbook for this?

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It sure is just do the loomis signature move back load the contract of landry and then apply the rob peter to pay paul move and back load other players contract or convert it to a signing bonus to free up some cash problem solved.

P.S. please know im serious about landry but joking about how to do it

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Make no mistake, when Goff heard that Lattimore was out he would have thought all his christmas’ come at once. Let alone when he also found out Crawley was also out.

While it would have been nice to beat the Rams our season will be defined over the next five weeks.

WHO DAT?!?!

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At the beginning of the day you would have thought only giving up 26 points would be good enough.
The offense didn't do their jobs of scoring points and staying on the field. Take away Kamara's big run and we had >50 yards rushing.

Add in Sh***y special teams and you're not going to win, with or without Lattimore

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We invested poorly in the secondary for years and now a lack of depth is really hurting us.

For those who argue we did lose THREE starting CBs - just imagine what we could have done instead of Browner, Byrd and the kid from Nebraska.

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I'm pretty sure missing your top 2 starting CB's (3 if you count Breaux) would be significant on any team.

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We held the Rams to 26 points ... 26 points with backups ... this is a team that has scored 40 burgers almost weekly ... Come on Man ... dissapointed we lost but think about it 26 point with our 2 best CB's out. We have come a long way in a very short time not only with team play but with some of our fans level of expectation.

Name me any team that could have preformed any better with their 2 top CB's out ... Don't think you can ...

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It sure didn't help kicking to Pharoh Cooper either. I would have much rather we kicked it out of bounds. That's a real threat for the Rams.

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I don't agree with that...

I think we are the best team in the NFC. If our starting CBs play we win this game easy.

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you never can have enough good CB

right now we do not

Rams are deep and loaded at CB.

That is were we want to be

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JP aka Saints GM ...

What are you doing with Kenny V this off season? Offer him a fair deal? Let him walk? Look for his successor in the 2018 draft?

I think this topic (safety/corner back position) needs it's own thread.

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Not JP, but Vacarro’s impending free agency is very intriguing to me. This past offseason the top free agent deals for SS were these:

Tony Jefferson- 4 years/$34 million (Avg: $8.5 mil/year)
Micah Hyde- 5 years/$30.5 million (Avg: $6.1 mil/year)
Barry Church- 4 years/$26 million (Avg: $6.5 mil/year)
John Cyprien- 4 years/$25 million (Avg: $6.25 mil/year)


Vacarro’s 5th year option is costing us $5.67 million. I don’t think it would be too unreasonable to give him a slight bump in salary and give him a deal similar to the deals above that average between $6-6.5 million/year.

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Depth for sure. This is why I was wondering in some other thread about Sean's plan. Another solid off season and we're gonna be stout.

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Appreciate the insight XVI ...

But for me, I'm letting Kenny walk. There has been too many times where he has needed to make game changing plays and he's failed. Too inconsistent throughout his career & lacks play maker ability we desperately need at the position.

I'd be happy with a guy like Eric Reid, Barry Church (Dallas is now missing his production) & T.J. Ward types.

I'm in the minority here but over the years KV is too much hit or miss. He'll look like crap the first 3 weeks, then get better the next. Does he play well because of the talent around him? All I see is average at the position. We need more ball hawks and dawgs at safety.

Again, I'd let Kenny walk but that's just me :smokin:.

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For the record, I think the Saints do intend to let him walk. I think there’s a reason we spent 2nd round picks in consecutive drafts on safeties.

Vacarro doesn’t shine on his own when the talent level around him is subpar. When Lattimore, Crawley, Williams and Bell are around him he looks great. Then you look at weeks 1, 2 and this past game and he looks totally lost.

The only reason I’d keep him is cohesiveness and fearing the drop off in chemistry like when Jenkins/Harper were let go.

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Significant sure but the fact we have such a drop off in performance is attributable to poor decisions. Don’t forget our top 2 CBs this year weren’t our top two CBs last year.

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Don't forget the stupid personal fouls he gets to extend drives and kill D momentum.

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KV’a issues are 1) versatility and 2) consistency. When he’s in the right role and playing good football he’s a top 10 SS.

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Which role is that? Nickle back and/or slot?

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Roaming the LOS. Covering the flats and occasionally rushing the passer. But we need solid cover corners for that.

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Agreed.

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Anymore news on the Lattimore and Crawley injuries?

Whats the chance of them playing against the Panthers?

GEAUX SAINTS!

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To answer your question Lattimore is very very important. Dilly Diily important!

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Needs to be playing safety not slot corner as he was Sunday. Not fast enough and doesn't have the cover skills for that.

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He's a 6-7 million guy. If he wants to play for that, great.
Unfortunately we have a history for overpaying for players, especially defensively. Hopefully that trend stops

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IMO he is the most important person not named Brees!