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Danno 11-28-2017 06:26 PM

Remaining games... Predictions for the NFC South
 
OK lets assume every team in the NFC wins their home games versus the NFC south, (except everyone beats Tampa)
Lets look at some chalk…


Saints 8-3, Finish 12-4
W- Panthers 8-3
L- @Falcons 7-4
W- Jets 4-7
W- Falcons 7-4
W-@Bucs 4-7

Panthers 8-3 , Finish 10-6

L-@Saints 8-3
L- Vikings 9-2
W- Packers 5-6
W- Bucs 4-7
L- @Falcons 7-4

Falcons 7-4, Finish 10-6
L- Vikings 9-2
W- Saints 8-3
W- @Bucs 4-7
L- @Saints 8-3
W- Panthers 8-3

Bucs 4-7, finish 4-12
L- @Packers 5-6
L- Lions 6-5
L- Falcons 7-4
L- @Panthers 8-3
L- Saints 8-3

I think we are still in the drivers seat (ON PAPER).

I will also ban the 1st person who says "on any given Sunday". :p

WhoDat!656 11-28-2017 06:52 PM

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If at least Lattimore is back I say the Saints run the table.

Without Lattimore the Saints sweep the kittens and yucs; split with failclowns and beat Jets

The Dude 11-28-2017 07:06 PM

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It’s going to be a dog fight to the last game.

WillSaints81 11-28-2017 07:31 PM

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I just have to ask.....can Minnesota really win three straight road games back to back to back?

Danno 11-28-2017 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 779288)
I just have to ask.....can Minnesota really win three straight road games back to back to back?

Thats a good point Will. Glad you did some homework. I've always said three back to back road games is absolutely brutal.

The only teams that can survive that are typically teams with a great defense and a solid run game.

RockyMountainSaint 11-28-2017 09:16 PM

Re: Remaining games... Predictions for the NFC South
 
Saints and Clowns, 10-6

Panties 11-5

Panties win South.

Saints and Clowns Wildcards.

Unless, Sea locks Saints out.

I will be happy with a 10-6 season.

Missing the Playoffs would suck but a 3 win improvement would be great.

Beastmode 11-28-2017 09:45 PM

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We can't win without 2 decent CB's. We also loss a pass rusher so yeah, I will believe a W when I see it but I have faith.

SmashMouth 11-28-2017 09:59 PM

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On any given Sunday, Bruh!

Oh.. and you don't have the power to ban... LMAO

We may win the rest of our games! :bng:

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-28-2017 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 779306)
Saints and Clowns, 10-6

Panties 11-5

Panties win South.

Saints and Clowns Wildcards.

Unless, Sea locks Saints out.

I will be happy with a 10-6 season.

Missing the Playoffs would suck but a 3 win improvement would be great.

One of the rare times (other than Will) that I wish there was a dislike button. We crushed the Kitties in their house and made whiny Cam pout. Even without starting corners we held a top 3 offense to 26 points on the road.

You really believe that we're going to lose 3 of our last 4 division games?

That would be both depressing and disappointing. Winning only 2 of our last 5 is an unacceptable outcome at this point.

I hope the Saints stick a fork in the Kitties as there is no way they are going to win the division losing the head to head to the Saints.

SFIAH

hagan714 11-29-2017 04:55 AM

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no game in the NFC South is a sure win and we have 4 to go. 2 of which are on the road

triman 11-29-2017 08:14 AM

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Hey we can speculate about how we finish the season all we want . If we get into the playoffs anything can happen.After our start I thought here we go again. It has been a very exciting season!Are you not amused?

K Major 11-29-2017 09:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by triman (Post 779350)
Hey we can speculate about how we finish the season all we want . If we get into the playoffs anything can happen.

Precisely. Once you punch your playoff ticket, all teams are 0-0. One "off" game by the mighty Eagles & they are done.

I like the Saints chances ... starting on Sunday.

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-29-2017 09:15 AM

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Triman,

I think long winning streaks sometimes skews perceptions. Fans often get an air of invincibility thinking they will have the 19-0 season. So the loss at the end makes it feel like the bottom is falling out.

But two realities are likely:

1. A win against the Kitties and simply splitting with the Chokers (see my sig...) goes a long way towards securing the division.

2. The bye is likely gone.

I agree with you. In the playoffs with a really good team that can run the ball and play defense is something to look forward to.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 11-29-2017 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 779356)
Precisely. Once you punch your playoff ticket, all teams are 0-0. One "off" game by the mighty Eagles & they are done.

I like the Saints chances ... starting on Sunday.

I like our chance Sunday, as well. Carolina looked very vulnerable against a Jets team they should have handled easily if the Panthers are truly as good as some in the media surmise. They are a one trick pony with that trick being Newton carrying the ball. Shut his run down and force him to throw the ball and they are average at best.

billyt81 11-29-2017 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 779290)
Thats a good point Will. Glad you did some homework. I've always said three back to back road games is absolutely brutal.

The only teams that can survive that are typically teams with a great defense and a solid run game.

So basically youre saying the odds are against them(the Vikings) winning three road games in a row. Sure. I guess. Unlikely stuff, can and has happened to the Saints. Its gonna be tough. The Vikings are for real. They scare me. Panthers and Falcons playing well. When are the CBs back? Mike Thomas is great but hes not fast. Brees gotta hit Ginn on some deep ones or Snead gotta show up big......like a couple deep balls or break a tackle and turn a 5yd curl into 25+. Kmara cant make every play.

73Saint 11-29-2017 10:20 AM

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Isn't this great??!! We are IN THE HUNT, relevant and essentially we control our own destiny. Injuries will have an affect on the outcome, as they always do, but w/ this team and Payton/Brees at the helm, anything can happen.

It's almost December and we are right in the thick of things!!!!! That's all you can ask for!!

RockyMountainSaint 11-29-2017 12:09 PM

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Having a running game and utilizing your running game are two different things.

I have zero faith in SP committing to it.

FWIW......

arsaint 11-29-2017 09:16 PM

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After a 8-2 start I can't be happy WITHOUT 11 wins and a playoff spot.

Rugby Saint II 11-30-2017 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 779365)
Isn't this great??!! We are IN THE HUNT, relevant and essentially we control our own destiny. Injuries will have an affect on the outcome, as they always do, but w/ this team and Payton/Brees at the helm, anything can happen.

It's almost December and we are right in the thick of things!!!!! That's all you can ask for!!

I like the way you think good sir. Dilly! Dilly!!:broccoli:

saintshrimp 11-30-2017 09:19 PM

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I'll be happy with a 2-3 finish as long as they were against Carolina and atlanta. I would like more but think that would probably be enough to get the division

RockyMountainSaint 11-30-2017 09:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 779614)
I'll be happy with a 2-3 finish as long as they were against Carolina and atlanta. I would like more but think that would probably be enough to get the division

I hope you are correct.

I'm not as optimistic.

AsylumGuido 12-01-2017 06:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 779615)
I hope you are correct.

I'm not as optimistic.

Of course you aren't.

;)

hagan714 12-01-2017 06:47 AM

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Saints 8-3,

W- Panthers
W- @Falcons
W- Jets
W- Falcons
W-@Bucs

Finish 13-3

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-01-2017 10:40 AM

Re: Remaining games... Predictions for the NFC South
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 779614)
I'll be happy with a 2-3 finish as long as they were against Carolina and atlanta. I would like more but think that would probably be enough to get the division

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 779615)
I hope you are correct.

I'm not as optimistic.

Can you explain why? It literally sounds like you are saying the Saints will lose the remaining 5 games down the stretch to finish 8-8. That's a dark path. I'm really just trying to understand the justification.

You've posted elsewhere that you have no faith in Payton utilizing the running game. The rushing attack has accounted for 46% of the offense so far. In Buffalo, the Saints had 48 rush attempts, including a stretch of 24 rushes in a row. When the chips were down in the Washington game in overtime, two rushes for 51 yards ended the game.

Is it not unrealistic to expect to rush the ball when the team is behind by 14 in the second half?

But isn't equally unlikely that the Saints will end the season on a 6 game losing streak throwing the ball 80% of the time as is Guido's expectation of winning the SB on a 8 or 9 game winning streak?

My expectations down the stretch is that the Saints will win their three remaining home games along with winning in Tampa. And that they will continue running the ball at about a 40% clip. In an ideal situation, stealing a win in Mercedes Benz North would be icing on the cake. But as long as the Saints are limited to 1 division loss in the remaining 4 division games, we'll have a seat at the table for the playoff run.

But again, detail the list of issues, then discuss what can be done to resolve them. I really cannot understand why you think the Saints are going to tank down the stretch.

Thanks,

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 12-01-2017 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 779658)
Can you explain why? It literally sounds like you are saying the Saints will lose the remaining 5 games down the stretch to finish 8-8. That's a dark path. I'm really just trying to understand the justification.

You've posted elsewhere that you have no faith in Payton utilizing the running game. The rushing attack has accounted for 46% of the offense so far. In Buffalo, the Saints had 48 rush attempts, including a stretch of 24 rushes in a row. When the chips were down in the Washington game in overtime, two rushes for 51 yards ended the game.

Is it not unrealistic to expect to rush the ball when the team is behind by 14 in the second half?

But isn't equally unlikely that the Saints will end the season on a 6 game losing streak throwing the ball 80% of the time as is Guido's expectation of winning the SB on a 8 or 9 game winning streak?

My expectations down the stretch is that the Saints will win their three remaining home games along with winning in Tampa. And that they will continue running the ball at about a 40% clip. In an ideal situation, stealing a win in Mercedes Benz North would be icing on the cake. But as long as the Saints are limited to 1 division loss in the remaining 4 division games, we'll have a seat at the table for the playoff run.

But again, detail the list of issues, then discuss what can be done to resolve them. I really cannot understand why you think the Saints are going to tank down the stretch.

Thanks,

SFIAH

It's how they roll, brother. Some people can't make it through the day without expecting the worst. Maybe it makes them feel that much better when things are constantly turning out better than they expect. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with.

:confused:

arsaint 12-01-2017 03:45 PM

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WORST CASE a split with Carolina and Atlanta to finish 11-5.

But I think we beat Carolina in normal fashion (by 3-4 points with it close all the way). At ATL will be the tough one on a short week, but they may be sore if they get in a slugfest this weekend.

So if the breaks go our way we're 13-3, if they go against us 11-5.


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