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The Dude 12-04-2017 04:41 PM

Defensive coaching
 
I think it is very noticeable how well the defense adjusts once they get in there and lose a couple battles. After the first series or two It seems like several times this season I found myself saying “looks like it’s going to be a long day for the defense” only for them to turn around and for the most part fix the problem. Haven’t seen this in the Payton era.
Offense does the same at times but Payton still sometimes forces things that aren’t working. I usually feel pretty good coming out of half time as I see a lot of adjustments.
Our coaching changes are evident and I think Payton is growing as a coach.

Crusader 12-04-2017 04:58 PM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
I think the infusion of new coaches was invigorating for Coach Payton. I also get a feeling that Vitt and them good ole' boys were a bunch of yes men while the new crew holds him accountable in sorts.

Euphoria 12-04-2017 06:14 PM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
I think the divorce is over and he can concentrate on his job and legacy now.

saintsfan1976 12-04-2017 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 780359)
I think the divorce is over and he can concentrate on his job and legacy now.

I’ll bet there’s truth in that statement.

The Dude 12-04-2017 06:25 PM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
He seems to be lettting them do there jobs for a change with less micromanaging. This is what excites me as much as the team winning. Payton an old dog is learning new tricks. That’s how successful coaches last. As time goes on and Brees moves on he can’t just keep calling the same old plays because it used to work for him. He may not get another Brees. We may have to become more of a run team with a Qb that playes smart football and a stout defense.
It’s the coaches job to get the best out of the players you have.

ScottF 12-04-2017 06:56 PM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 780361)
He seems to be lettting them do there jobs for a change with less micromanaging. This is what excites me as much as the team winning. Payton an old dog is learning new tricks. That’s how successful coaches last. As time goes on and Brees moves on he can’t just keep calling the same old plays because it used to work for him. He may not get another Brees. We may have to become more of a run team with a Qb that playes smart football and a stout defense.
It’s the coaches job to get the best out of the players you have.

Yeah, but after 4 consecutive penalties, or 5 straight blown coverages, can you blame him for going off on his DC's?
Ryan was so bad.
Have no idea how his teams ever won a game

I agree tho- after the first Carolina drive I thought it was going to be a 42-38 game

homerj07 12-04-2017 08:15 PM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Definitely much better defensive coaching this year over what we've seen in the past several years.

Seer1 12-04-2017 10:42 PM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 780361)
He seems to be lettting them do there jobs for a change with less micromanaging. This is what excites me as much as the team winning. Payton an old dog is learning new tricks. That’s how successful coaches last. As time goes on and Brees moves on he can’t just keep calling the same old plays because it used to work for him. He may not get another Brees. We may have to become more of a run team with a Qb that playes smart football and a stout defense.
It’s the coaches job to get the best out of the players you have.

The thought he finally has some guys that can actually do their jobs crosses my mind.

RockyMountainSaint 12-05-2017 12:19 AM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Not for nothing.
Someone got into Ken Crawley's ear.
After many whiffs and poor effort at tackling this season?

Panthers were down by 14 with 11:22 left in the 4th qtr.
4th down and 6 at the Saints 12.

Scam hits Funchess with a 5 yd pass.
Crawley crashes and stuffs it for a turnover on downs.

Yuge Play!

lee909 12-05-2017 01:05 AM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Crawley play this year must have him as ine of biggest jumps a player has made in years. Looks a totally different player.

hitta 12-05-2017 04:34 AM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Dennis Allen knows what he is doing. You can tell the good D-coordinators from the bad by their in-game adjustments. He adapts well. We've had a several games where we've given up a touchdown on the opening drive and then we play lights out. You have to have awareness of what's going on to be able to do that.

saintfan 12-05-2017 09:11 AM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 780482)
Dennis Allen knows what he is doing. You can tell the good D-coordinators from the bad by their in-game adjustments. He adapts well. We've had a several games where we've given up a touchdown on the opening drive and then we play lights out. You have to have awareness of what's going on to be able to do that.



I’m sure we have all noticed the in-game adjustments have been missing or maybe poorly executed, but that just isn’t the case this year. We adjust on the fly as well as just about anybody.

The Dude 12-05-2017 10:11 AM

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Crawly could start for just about any team in the NFL right now. He’s not only playing better he is playing like one of the better corners in the league. He’s also been tested a lot more because most QBs try to avoid Lattimore if they can.

FinSaint 12-05-2017 10:30 AM

Re: Defensive coaching
 
He is still a bit too "handsy" and late to locate the ball, but he is a good corner with the upside of being really good if not great like Lattimore.

The upgrade over Harris was like night and day.

hagan714 12-05-2017 10:33 AM

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give him a year or two more of drafts and TA and we will see what he has in mind


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