What we learned from our loss on Thursday night

leilung · 12-11-2017, 12:15 PM

Aside for one drive in the Redskins game, our TE play has been nothing short of dismal.

SP abandoning the run after Kamara's injury hurt us. Pass first is no longer who we are.

SP is in a heavy bromance with the Screen Pass.

Snead is showing glimmers of what was and Drew needs him as a viable weapon. Without strong TE play, we need our slot WR to gash the soft LB play we've been seeing.

I'm impressed with the depth of our roster stepping up and being competitive, in spite of the massive number of injuries on Thursday Nite.

The Dude · 12-11-2017, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

That's because we hardly have any talent at WR. And we definitely don't have a Tight End who can catch the ball. Even Fleener, when he played, was average at catching at best. Sorry but these wide receivers simply don't get open.

Fortunately we found a running game and have an o-ilne that can run block. The o-line doesn't pass block so well.

You can blame Brees all you want, but sorry the Rams game was a team loss and so was tonight. Remember, the Falcons strong point this season is their defense.

I agree. The lack of a receiving threat and speedster hurts him. In the past he’s had the ability to make average receivers with minimal talent look great. He’s at the point now where he needs a playmaker who can stretch out and make those catches that may be off. He needs a receiver that makes him better. I think they thought Ginn and Snead could get it done but they aren’t quite there. A true number one receiver to go opposite of Thomas may be smart in the draft. We have more depth than I realized elsewhere. Fill in the offensive line, Lb, and DE in later rounds.
They obviously expected more out of Fleener. A TE would go a long way.

turbo_dog · 12-11-2017, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I agree. The lack of a receiving threat and speedster hurts him. In the past he’s had the ability to make average receivers with minimal talent look great. He’s at the point now where he needs a playmaker who can stretch out and make those catches that may be off. He needs a receiver that makes him better. I think they thought Ginn and Snead could get it done but they aren’t quite there. A true number one receiver to go opposite of Thomas may be smart in the draft. We have more depth than I realized elsewhere. Fill in the offensive line, Lb, and DE in later rounds.
They obviously expected more out of Fleener. A TE would go a long way.

I don't know, Dude. Thomas is a true number one receiver, and Ginn has done MORE than I expected from him this season. I am surprised by the lack of looks Snead has gotten since he came back, but I think that's just a product of the running game being so strong. As far as TE, I totally agree! This year it has been our weakest position, and it's not even close.

Rugby Saint II · 12-11-2017, 04:49 PM

We learned that the referees don't want a small-market team to win. Screw Roger Goodelle!

Rell&Gold · 12-11-2017, 08:05 PM

Ted Ginn has been okay....we need another Above average posession WR. MT, (Missing Piece), Coleman, let Snead and Ginn battle ot out. Drew has missed on some throws but there has been poor seperation by the Saints WR's as well. I would solely blame Brees if we had an Elite or above average WR corp but, thats not the case. If we had the Bucs or the Falcons WR corp I could totally understand the Drew blame because those are some talented groups there and they should be producing at a high level. When in actuality our WR outside of MT is mediocre at best. Feel like our WR corp is another reason Payton chose to go run heavy this year. I myself was furious with Drew over that throw but, It wasnt that bad of a throw honestly a forces throw as far as the choice goes. He tried to make a play can never be mad at that because he CAN and has made that throw before. Those other two defenders were non-factors he let the ball get to far inside. This O-line has been VERY shaky this year also. Saints get healthy tighten up whatever is loose and lets get on a good roll headed into the playoffs with 3-game winning streak. And continue that habit all way up until after the Superbowl.

K Major · 12-11-2017, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Ted Ginn has been okay....we need another Above average posession WR. MT, (Missing Piece), Coleman, let Snead and Ginn battle ot out. Drew has missed on some throws but there has been poor seperation by the Saints WR's as well.

Jarvis Landry could solve that. My LSU homer glasses are off ... he's a really good WR at the NFL level.

st thomas · 12-11-2017, 09:32 PM

If y’all didn’t hear d.jones after game says we new the call was to te over middle of that don’t tell u Payton is predictable fu$k the rest

Rell&Gold · 12-11-2017, 10:06 PM

That doesnt make Payton predictable, just means the Falcons have one hell of Linebacker.

12-11-2017, 12:15 PM	#51
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,433	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Aside for one drive in the Redskins game, our TE play has been nothing short of dismal. SP abandoning the run after Kamara's injury hurt us. Pass first is no longer who we are. SP is in a heavy bromance with the Screen Pass. Snead is showing glimmers of what was and Drew needs him as a viable weapon. Without strong TE play, we need our slot WR to gash the soft LB play we've been seeing. I'm impressed with the depth of our roster stepping up and being competitive, in spite of the massive number of injuries on Thursday Nite.
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12-11-2017, 01:23 PM	#52
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by Halo That's because we hardly have any talent at WR. And we definitely don't have a Tight End who can catch the ball. Even Fleener, when he played, was average at catching at best. Sorry but these wide receivers simply don't get open. Fortunately we found a running game and have an o-ilne that can run block. The o-line doesn't pass block so well. You can blame Brees all you want, but sorry the Rams game was a team loss and so was tonight. Remember, the Falcons strong point this season is their defense. I agree. The lack of a receiving threat and speedster hurts him. In the past he’s had the ability to make average receivers with minimal talent look great. He’s at the point now where he needs a playmaker who can stretch out and make those catches that may be off. He needs a receiver that makes him better. I think they thought Ginn and Snead could get it done but they aren’t quite there. A true number one receiver to go opposite of Thomas may be smart in the draft. We have more depth than I realized elsewhere. Fill in the offensive line, Lb, and DE in later rounds. They obviously expected more out of Fleener. A TE would go a long way.
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12-11-2017, 04:31 PM	#53
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,709	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by The Dude I agree. The lack of a receiving threat and speedster hurts him. In the past he’s had the ability to make average receivers with minimal talent look great. He’s at the point now where he needs a playmaker who can stretch out and make those catches that may be off. He needs a receiver that makes him better. I think they thought Ginn and Snead could get it done but they aren’t quite there. A true number one receiver to go opposite of Thomas may be smart in the draft. We have more depth than I realized elsewhere. Fill in the offensive line, Lb, and DE in later rounds. They obviously expected more out of Fleener. A TE would go a long way. I don't know, Dude. Thomas is a true number one receiver, and Ginn has done MORE than I expected from him this season. I am surprised by the lack of looks Snead has gotten since he came back, but I think that's just a product of the running game being so strong. As far as TE, I totally agree! This year it has been our weakest position, and it's not even close.

12-11-2017, 04:49 PM	#54
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night We learned that the referees don't want a small-market team to win. Screw Roger Goodelle!

12-11-2017, 08:05 PM	#55
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Ted Ginn has been okay....we need another Above average posession WR. MT, (Missing Piece), Coleman, let Snead and Ginn battle ot out. Drew has missed on some throws but there has been poor seperation by the Saints WR's as well. I would solely blame Brees if we had an Elite or above average WR corp but, thats not the case. If we had the Bucs or the Falcons WR corp I could totally understand the Drew blame because those are some talented groups there and they should be producing at a high level. When in actuality our WR outside of MT is mediocre at best. Feel like our WR corp is another reason Payton chose to go run heavy this year. I myself was furious with Drew over that throw but, It wasnt that bad of a throw honestly a forces throw as far as the choice goes. He tried to make a play can never be mad at that because he CAN and has made that throw before. Those other two defenders were non-factors he let the ball get to far inside. This O-line has been VERY shaky this year also. Saints get healthy tighten up whatever is loose and lets get on a good roll headed into the playoffs with 3-game winning streak. And continue that habit all way up until after the Superbowl.

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12-11-2017, 09:20 PM	#56
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Ted Ginn has been okay....we need another Above average posession WR. MT, (Missing Piece), Coleman, let Snead and Ginn battle ot out. Drew has missed on some throws but there has been poor seperation by the Saints WR's as well. Jarvis Landry could solve that. My LSU homer glasses are off ... he's a really good WR at the NFL level. Rell&Gold likes this.

12-11-2017, 09:32 PM	#57
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night If y’all didn’t hear d.jones after game says we new the call was to te over middle of that don’t tell u Payton is predictable fu$k the rest

12-11-2017, 10:06 PM	#58
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night That doesnt make Payton predictable, just means the Falcons have one hell of Linebacker.