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Audiotom 12-07-2017 10:41 PM

1st and goal 1:43 left
 
Run the ball three times
Run out clock

Get td running
Or take the field goal

Payton is too "put the dagger in" greedy instead of smart

ChrisXVI 12-07-2017 10:42 PM

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You’ve said it all.

darksoul35 12-07-2017 10:44 PM

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The refs beat us. Terrible throw by Brees but the refs killed us.

Audiotom 12-07-2017 10:45 PM

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But we blew it at the end when it was well in our grasp

dizzle88 12-07-2017 10:46 PM

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Should have seen this coming, Payton refused to run the ball for much of the second half.

Halo 12-07-2017 10:46 PM

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I hated the call from Payton - that pass was designed for Jimmy Graham to the tight end. Hill is NO Jimmy Graham. He's supposed to go up and wrestle for the pass. Either it's a PI or a catch.

ChrisXVI 12-07-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 781282)
The refs beat us. Terrible throw by Brees but the refs killed us.

0 points off of 3 INT’s killed us. We could’ve had a foot on their throat before the 4th quarter even started.

LivnaLieTimay 12-07-2017 10:48 PM

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I don't agree with this thinking at all. We're on a short week, our defense is gassed, we had a ton of injuries and we have a HoF QB. Throwing the ball was the absolute right thing. Drew just made a terrible decision throwing a jump ball to Hill. If you want to criticize SP, he deserves to be crushed for not having a plan B once Kamara went down.

jlouhill 12-07-2017 10:50 PM

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I don't get it, I just don't get it. Even if we score there we give the ball back to Ryan with 1:30 left on the clock, a defense that's sucking wind and two timeouts. RUN THE DAMNED BALL, RUN THE DAMNED CLOCK DOWN AND IF YOU DON'T GET IN THE DAMNED ENDZONE KICK THE DAMNED FIELD GOAL AND TAKE YOUR DAMNED CHANCES IN OT!!!!!

iceshack149 12-07-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 781293)
I don't agree with this thinking at all. We're on a short week, our defense is gassed, we had a ton of injuries and we have a HoF QB. Throwing the ball was the absolute right thing. Drew just made a terrible decision throwing a jump ball to Hill. If you want to criticize SP, he deserves to be crushed for not having a plan B once Kamara went down.

I agree. Both RBs were injured so he let the future Hall of Famer take the reins. Terrible pass, though. That should’ve been a corner fade...

nola_swammi 12-07-2017 10:52 PM

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Bad play calling by Payton, but Drew was simply horrible in this game. Wouldn't step up in the pocket and throw a unnecessary risky throw that is intercepted. Ingram was open. I really think those interviews that was implying the team didn't have to rely on him, got to him.

Lord_Saint83 12-07-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 781304)
Bad play calling by Payton, but Drew was simply horrible in this game. Wouldn't step up in the pocket and throw a unnecessary risky throw that is intercepted. Ingram was open. I really think those interviews that was implying the team didn't have to rely on him, got to him.


Well if it did get to him, he sure did wet the bed when he had the chance

Audiotom 12-07-2017 10:55 PM

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A great comeback

Easily in our grasp

Squandered

dizzle88 12-07-2017 10:56 PM

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Brees did the same thing vs Washington, threw a pick in a dire moment, however the refs called Holding and brought it back.

LivnaLieTimay 12-07-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jlouhill (Post 781298)
I don't get it, I just don't get it. Even if we score there we give the ball back to Ryan with 1:30 left on the clock, a defense that's sucking wind and two timeouts. RUN THE DAMNED BALL, RUN THE DAMNED CLOCK DOWN AND IF YOU DON'T GET IN THE DAMNED ENDZONE KICK THE DAMNED FIELD GOAL AND TAKE YOUR DAMNED CHANCES IN OT!!!!!

This doesn't make any sense. If our defense is "sucking wind" the last thing you want to do is play OT. That's why you go for the win. The playcalling from SP was terrible throughout the night but passing at the end was correct. Just a bad decision to throw it to Hill.

RailBoss 12-07-2017 11:00 PM

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Problem is Brees had three Hot Dogs with double sauerkraut before Kickoff. He figured he would be handing the ball off all night.

K Major 12-07-2017 11:06 PM

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Throwing into triple coverage to a back up TE when other options would include Thomas and Coleman is just a bad decision.

FWIW, I'm not worried at all about Atlanta. They won't see the post season.

hitta 12-08-2017 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 781293)
I don't agree with this thinking at all. We're on a short week, our defense is gassed, we had a ton of injuries and we have a HoF QB. Throwing the ball was the absolute right thing. Drew just made a terrible decision throwing a jump ball to Hill. If you want to criticize SP, he deserves to be crushed for not having a plan B once Kamara went down.

I agree with this. We needed to win the game there. We had too many things going against us if the game ended up in overtime.

WHODATINCA 12-08-2017 01:32 AM

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That play lost us this game. We would have won BUT FOR THAT PLAY.

I feel pretty sure Payton feels like he should have his a$$ kicked right about now ( oh except for it's the refs fault ) and I would be happy to oblige.

RailBoss 12-08-2017 01:42 AM

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Coach gets the Horses A$$ award alright.

billyt81 12-08-2017 09:25 AM

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[QUOTE=Halo;781289]I hated the call from Payton - that pass was designed for Jimmy Graham to the tight end. Hill is NO Jimmy Graham. He's supposed to go up and wrestle for the pass. Either it's a PI or a catch.[/QUOTE

Gotta get inside of the defender and yes. If Hill cant catch it he should take Jones head off. Take the penalty. Kick the field goal. Deion Jones was everywhere. I dont think he started until his senior year and he was never a standout at LSU. Jesuit LB, LSU LB. He should be a Saint. Could we use a great cover 4.3 40 LB? He put Kmara out the game and caught the winning interception. Give him the game ball and well see him in two weeks in the dome.

WhoDat!656 12-09-2017 05:06 PM

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How is this not illegal contact on the failclowns?

The refs had to have made a group decision to not flag the failclowns for a single defensive penalty!

K Major 12-09-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 781617)
How is this not illegal contact on the failclowns?

The refs had to have made a group decision to not flag the failclowns for a single defensive penalty!

Naw, good no call. Incidental contact by BOTH playing the football. There wasn't any obvious grabbing, jersey pulls etc. By the definition of the NFL rule book, there was nothing there to flag.

If anything, Josh needed to make a better attempt to go get the football or take it away from Jones. You're 6'5 man.

K Major 12-09-2017 05:26 PM

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Here is a GIF of that play ...

https://i.imgur.com/cEwuqxq.gif

dizzle88 12-09-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 781618)
Naw, good no call. Incidental contact by BOTH playing the football. There wasn't any obvious grabbing, jersey pulls etc. By the definition of the NFL rule book, there was nothing there to flag.

If anything, Josh needed to make a better attempt to go get the football or take it away from Jones. You're 6'5 man.

Josh Hill is terrible, but the placement of the ball by Brees was pathetic.

If you throw that pass, you make it a back shoulder, either Hill catches it or no one does. Brees made it look like Jones was the intended receiver.

Ingram was wide open too.

Just rewatched the game, besides the opening 7 points of the second half after Banjo's pick, Brees and the offense should be ashamed of themselves. They did nothing for 29 mins, came alive in the final minute and fell short. Brees couldn't string a pass together the entire second half.

I hope we win out, because we could be forced out of the playoff race if we keep splitting wins/losses.

saintfan 12-09-2017 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 781620)
Josh Hill is terrible, but the placement of the ball by Brees was pathetic.

Knowing Brees, Josh Hill's placement was the problem. That ball looked to be in the right spot. Hill let the falcon player push him ever so gently and out of position. Watch the replay.

dizzle88 12-09-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 781630)
Knowing Brees, Josh Hill's placement was the problem. That ball looked to be in the right spot. Hill let the falcon player push him ever so gently and out of position. Watch the replay.

I say this with all the respect in the world dude, but people have to stop acting like Brees can do no wrong. Brees and Payton got greedy, they went flashy instead of smart and got burned.

As for the replay, I haven't stopped watching it, Brees has to realise that Josh Hill in no way is on the same level as Deion Jones.

Brees tested Jones last year and ended up throwing a 95 yard Pick 6 to him.

saintfan 12-09-2017 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 781631)
I say this with all the respect in the world dude, but people have to stop acting like Brees can do no wrong. Brees and Payton got greedy, they went flashy instead of smart and got burned.

As for the replay, I haven't stopped watching it, Brees has to realise that Josh Hill in no way is on the same level as Deion Jones.

Brees tested Jones last year and ended up throwing a 95 yard Pick 6 to him.

Respect to you too man. I'm not arguing that it was a bad play call and that it was a bad decision by Drew. I think Sean figured his D had no shot if they had to get back on the field. We went for broke. Sean plays that way. He won a super bowl doing it. Sometimes he gets a little loopy.

My point was that it wasn't such a horrible throw as it was a horrible decision. Hill isn't Graham. And it does look like had Hill not allowed himself to get pushed back he would have been in position to make the play.

The Dude 12-09-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 781276)
Run the ball three times
Run out clock

Get td running
Or take the field goal

Payton is too "put the dagger in" greedy instead of smart

So you would trust our winded defense to win it in OT while the rest of the team has been headed to the locker room with injuries all game?

Right call to go for the kill. Stupid call throwing it where it was thrown. It happens.
They will get destroyed in the Dome.

The Dude 12-09-2017 08:44 PM

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Looking at the replay isn’t there a little bit of interference there? 1000 bucks says we would have been flagged for it.
Looking again maybe more of a hold.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-09-2017 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 781276)
Run the ball three times
Run out clock

Get td running
Or take the field goal

Payton is too "put the dagger in" greedy instead of smart

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Beastmode 12-09-2017 08:56 PM

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Brees needs another play band on his other arm with the time and picture of the pick that says NO.

jlouhill 12-09-2017 11:08 PM

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I understand the argument that the D was too gassed to risk OT. But how can you say that going for the win right there was the right thing to do? If the D is too gassed for OT then how were they supposed to stop Ryan, Julio, and Sanu with a minute and a half plus two timeouts. They would have went through us like a hot knife through butter. I say run the ball two, maybe three times and kick the FG if you don't get in. At least then there's the chance that the D never has to set foot on the field again if we win the toss and score a TD. Or at the very least they have a little time to catch their breath if the falcons won the toss. Using the D was tired argument to justify going for the win doesn't work. Less time on the clock I get it but not a minute and a half with a D that could barely move at this point.

hagan714 12-10-2017 09:23 AM

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Should Drew throw that pass tp Hill? debatable

I want to point out Hill did a poor job of defending the interception. Hill is a back up and probably never be more than that and the fan love for him needs to calm down.

TE needs to be addressed.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-10-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jlouhill (Post 781646)
I understand the argument that the D was too gassed to risk OT. But how can you say that going for the win right there was the right thing to do? If the D is too gassed for OT then how were they supposed to stop Ryan, Julio, and Sanu with a minute and a half plus two timeouts. They would have went through us like a hot knife through butter. I say run the ball two, maybe three times and kick the FG if you don't get in. At least then there's the chance that the D never has to set foot on the field again if we win the toss and score a TD. Or at the very least they have a little time to catch their breath if the falcons won the toss. Using the D was tired argument to justify going for the win doesn't work. Less time on the clock I get it but not a minute and a half with a D that could barely move at this point.

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