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RailBoss 12-08-2017 07:07 AM

Referees and Falcons beat Saints 20-17 in first of two
 
In one of the most one-sided games you’ll see this year as far as officiating goes, the Saints fall to the Falcons 20-17 on the road in first of two of the series.

11 Saints penalties to four for the Falcons is pretty much all you need to know about the Saints’ Thursday night 20-17 loss to the Falcons. It’s not considered good manners to complain about officiating but this game was a joke.

The Saints were called for everything and the Falcons for very little. Alvin Kamara left the game in the first half following a head to head hit from Falcons linebacker Deion Jones. No flag. Mark Ingram was speared in the back with a helmet in the second half. No flag. An no one was allowed to touch Julio Jones. That atop a roughing the passer call when Sheldon Rankins was pushed, lightly, into Matt Ryan.

RailBoss 12-08-2017 07:17 AM

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This is Arthur's list of Ref's that he's making checks out to this morning.
Plus they all get orange plated Home Depot gift cards.

Clete Blakeman's 2017 NFL officiating crew consists of umpire Ramon George, down judge Hugo Cruz,
line judge Dana McKenzie, field judge Joe Larrew, side judge Dyrol Prioleau, and back judge Steve Patrick

ChrisXVI 12-08-2017 07:24 AM

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There was absolutely nothing wrong with the hits on Kamara and Ingram.

MatthewT 12-08-2017 07:26 AM

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I don't care about the officiating or the injuries, Saints were still in a position to win and Brees panicked for some reason, basically a choke job...

jeanpierre 12-08-2017 07:30 AM

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Not disagreeing that there wasn't home-town cooking with regards to the officiating; not to mention some BS scheduling by the league...

But we beat ourselves - and that's the worse part...

RailBoss 12-08-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 781405)
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the hits on Kamara and Ingram.


K Major 12-08-2017 07:57 AM

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No need to see this group of clowns at any playoff post season venue. The "fix" was on.

Kind of hard to defeat two teams last night.

K Major 12-08-2017 07:59 AM

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Side note - by the rule of the NFL, the hit on Kamara was legal.

Euphoria 12-08-2017 08:16 AM

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I know a lot of people bashing the refs but if you look at the calls they were correct. Except for the one on Sean.

They were legit otherwise.

Problem is we were sloppy and didn't deliever in the clutch. Injuries yikes.

ChrisXVI 12-08-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 781408)

Still not seeing an illegal hit.

rezburna 12-08-2017 09:13 AM

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No reason to make excuses. Brees and Payton ****ed it up.

WW_Who_Dat 12-08-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 781415)
Still not seeing an illegal hit.

Speared Karmara from the side helmet to helmet ... same hit in the Pitt Cincy game was called flagrant ... Opinion ... BS non call considering all the other ticky tacky crap that was called. If you are going to call crap on one team be consistant and call the same crap on the other team. Be consistantly bad at least it evens out. :bng:

WillSaints81 12-08-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 781409)
No need to see this group of clowns at any playoff post season venue. The "fix" was on.

Kind of hard to defeat two teams last night.

Why am I not surprised....

K Major 12-08-2017 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 781419)
No reason to make excuses. Brees and Payton ****ed it up.

You're right Rez ... no one cares. Saints need to make progress & not excuses. Ice up, rehab, recharge, recoup and get a W against the Jets in 10 days. We still control our fate. Just win. Get healthy.

Footnote - Banjo, Lattimore, Teo, Crawley, Kikaha played well. This defense (specifically the secondary) is turning a corner.

|Mitch| 12-08-2017 10:17 AM

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What about the push off from Sanu on his touchdown?!

Or the sneeze on Ryan that was flagged for roughing the passer?

Or the numerous holds from the Falcons O-line that were never seen

Or the Payton trying to call a timeout for 8 seconds and then gets flagged for running on the field to grab their attention

You can't honestly say that it was a fairly called game :doh:

frydaddy 12-08-2017 10:33 AM

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Yeah even if the hits were legal it was still an extremely poorly called game by the refs. I lost count of how many penalties they "missed" against the clowns... whatever, everything that could go wrong in this game did go wrong and we still almost pulled it off. When they come to our house in 2 weeks they're gonna go home defeated, embarrassed and out of the playoffs. F****n losers.

K Major 12-08-2017 10:35 AM

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Find a way ...

Saints need another play maker or two on offense not named Kamara. Ingram & Thomas have been above average but other guys aren't getting enough separation at the WR/TE position. Ginn is long in the tooth & Fleener/Hill & Houmanwhamacalic aren't those explosive guys.

If we want to make a serious playoff push, they must step up.

jeanpierre 12-08-2017 11:23 AM

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K, love the Teddy Roosevelt quote...

nola_swammi 12-08-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 781406)
I don't care about the officiating or the injuries, Saints were still in a position to win and Brees panicked for some reason, basically a choke job...

i don't look at it as he choke, more like trying to be the hero. I believe being in the back seat for so long effected his judgement, Ingram was open. People say Ingram was hurt, well I say if he was too hurt why was he out there? They have plays that they took out Ingram.

RailBoss 12-08-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 781448)
Find a way ...

Saints need another play maker or two on offense not named Kamara. Ingram & Thomas have been above average but other guys aren't getting enough separation at the WR/TE position. Ginn is long in the tooth & Fleener/Hill & Houmanwhamacalic aren't those explosive guys.

If we want to make a serious playoff push, they must step up.

Glad you didn't say Rise Up..

FinSaint 12-08-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 781411)
I know a lot of people bashing the refs but if you look at the calls they were correct. Except for the one on Sean.

They were legit otherwise.

Problem is we were sloppy and didn't deliever in the clutch. Injuries yikes.

True, but my issue is that similar calls weren't made on the other side.

Euphoria 12-08-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 781474)
True, but my issue is that similar calls weren't made on the other side.

Because there weren't...
I saw a couple of hands to the face calls that could have been called on both teams that were let go but when you look at the game as a whole. Saints were sloppy and not prepared as I think they should have been I mean look at the injuries as well.

FinSaint 12-08-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 781475)
Because there weren't...
I saw a couple of hands to the face calls that could have been called on both teams that were let go but when you look at the game as a whole. Saints were sloppy and not prepared as I think they should have been I mean look at the injuries as well.

I guess it's subjective...


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