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homerj07 12-12-2017 08:32 PM

You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Why wasn't the hit of Kamra called as a helmet to helmet hit?

Why wasn't the eyegouge on Thomas called?

You can't tell me the refs missed BOTH of those... Or were they not penalties?


:confused:

saintfan 12-12-2017 08:37 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Because Roger Goodell...

ChrisXVI 12-12-2017 08:41 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Why was Zach Miller robbed of a TD? Why didn’t we get penalized for the blatant neutral zone infraction against Carolina? Sometimes you get the calls, sometimes you don’t. We really need to get over it... We sound like such freakin’ crybabies.

homerj07 12-12-2017 08:41 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Easy to say. I'm being truthful in my confusion.

Should I be pissed because of **** calls? I remember a hit like that agaisnt Eddie George playing Pittsburg AND another on Deuce when we were playing SF. Helmet to helmet, knocked both of them out of the game.

Penalty/missed call or not?

ChrisXVI 12-12-2017 08:52 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 782027)
Easy to say. I'm being truthful in my confusion.

Should I be pissed because of **** calls? I remember a hit like that agaisnt Eddie George playing Pittsburg AND another on Deuce when we were playing SF. Helmet to helmet, knocked both of them out of the game.

Penalty/missed call or not?

Sorry man, I didn’t mean to sound like I was being rude. I’m just so ready for the Jets game so we can put that Thursday night debacle behind us.

Personally, yeah the one on Michael Thomas should have been a flag but I’m not one who believes the Kamara hit was a penalty.

homerj07 12-12-2017 08:58 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Chris, no worries. I'm not meaning to *****. I am very serious. I see hits with what i see as lesser infractions get called. So I would honestly like to know...

Beastmode 12-12-2017 10:44 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
The helmet hit was more of a sheet hit. It has to be a direct hit with a lead for them to call it. It was likely still intentional but harder to detect IMO. Eye poke, impossible to call. I think everyone should be wearing shields like MI but it's optional obviously. MT likely goes that route next year after that situation. It's also harder to facemask. I know I would be wearing one. It was not an accident though. MT was killing them.

Halo 12-12-2017 10:59 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
The Kamara hit, the dude didn't lead with his helmet. He lead with his shoulders square then his helmet made direct contact.
It wasn't deliberate.

It has a lot to do with what the player intends to do.
It was mostly a clean hit that freakishly landed into Kamara's brain.
It never looked like the defender deliberately hit Kamara in the head.

Michael Thomas - that was a deliberate eye poke They missed that.
Refs also missed a tons of holding calls by the falcon offensive line.

I agree, glad to get this one behind us. Tired of talking about it.

dizzle88 12-13-2017 12:46 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Kamara wasn't considered a defenseless player as he had caught the ball and made a few football moves.

The Michael Thomas eye gouge though......who knows why that wasn't called.

bobdog86 12-13-2017 01:00 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Rb’s rarely get that call, but I wondered the same thing. Poked in the eye happens to someone in just about every game. Seahawk fans are the worse at officiating whining, for the most part I believe we are better than those clowns. We take care of business not just in that game but most, and we win....officiating over sights happen. Just for an exercise, troll any teams forums and you will see post regarding shoddy officiating. Happens every game, for every team and every fan forum has a post about. I say we move along....marching to the playoffs.

nola_swammi 12-13-2017 01:46 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 782021)
Why wasn't the hit of Kamra called as a helmet to helmet hit?

Why wasn't the eyegouge on Thomas called?

You can't tell me the refs missed BOTH of those... Or were they not penalties?


:confused:

helmet to helmet contact is legal on running plays or after the reciever is declared not defenseless; however NO PLAYER can deliberately use the helmet as weapon by spearing

The only reason their was no call on the eye gouging is if the refs didn't see it. Which will be lame excuse cause his hands should be nowhere above the shoulders

The refs were obviously against us. No excuse for all the missed called when flags were coming out cause Rankin breathe too hard on Ryan & penality on LeRibeus that negated 3 pts

RockyMountainSaint 12-13-2017 03:08 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
The shine is coming off of this "miracle" season.
JUST LIKE '09!!! LOL
Gotta blame someone.
The team wins more than seven games for the first time in four years and someone has to be blamed when they don't win every game!

Don't blame the same culprits.

PRAISE THEM for not being 7-9.

44Champs 12-13-2017 11:02 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
My understanding is that an RB running w the ball is not a defenseless player, so that's why the call wasn't made. However, the eye gouge on MT should have definitely been a penalty.

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K Major 12-13-2017 11:15 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
"Win, lose or draw, they are still kicking it off at 12 o'clock." - Herm Edwards. Direct all focus to the Jets.

12/24/2017 will be here soon enough.

73Saint 12-13-2017 11:32 AM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
So true. All focus needs to be on the Jets

st thomas 12-13-2017 01:10 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
no bodys bitaccthing here more than the fans of football in whole we've been itching for better officiating for years and its tumble salting our asrses

The Dude 12-13-2017 02:15 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Kamara was legit. Kamara had lowered his head and the defender didn’t lead with the top of his helmet. Idk why hands to the face wasn’t called on the eye poke. I also don’t know why the hit on Ingram’s back wasn’t spearing. Lot of bad calls but the Kamara hit was legit. I think it was intentional. We need to play just as nasty in the Dome.

WhoDat!656 12-13-2017 05:01 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 782043)
The Kamara hit, the dude didn't lead with his helmet. He lead with his shoulders square then his helmet made direct contact.
It wasn't deliberate.

It has a lot to do with what the player intends to do.
It was mostly a clean hit that freakishly landed into Kamara's brain.
It never looked like the defender deliberately hit Kamara in the head.

Michael Thomas - that was a deliberate eye poke They missed that.
Refs also missed a tons of holding calls by the falcon offensive line.

I agree, glad to get this one behind us. Tired of talking about it.

I have to disagree; Jones definitely lowers his head before tackling Kimara.
Can you imagine the crap storm the Saints would have endured if they treated this like the Seahwaks did with Russell a few games ago?

The Dude 12-13-2017 05:15 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
I think Jones gets a pass from a lot of fans here because he’s from LSU. If he played for Ole Miss or Alabama and people here would be screaming for his head.
Legal, yes but it was intentional. He did it twice more.

Rugby Saint II 12-15-2017 01:20 PM

Re: You guys know more. Please explain why...
 
Kamara is now going to be running with a face shield. That's one less uncalled penalty to worry about now. The hit on Kamara looked legit to me with no ill intent. I don't believe he targeted Kamara's head.


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