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jeanpierre 12-18-2017 04:55 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 783040)
We need better wide receivers and tight ends.

Coleman, Snead, Ginn and Josh Hill cannot get open consistently like Michael Thomas can.

We need to draft or sign better receivers.

Coleman needs to hang onto that ball better, he almost blew the game single handedly.

Offense has to stop going 3 and out so often, Brees has to stop throwing ints to D lineman deep in our own territory.

With all that said, I'm proud of this team for pulling out 10 wins so far. Who dat!
I'd rather prefer younger, healthier, stronger offensive linemen from Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska - big corn-fed monsters who absolutely dominate the LOS...

For the past three years, we've all talked about defense and running the ball and now we want to go back to Air Coryell that's been nothing but 0.500 football?!?

dizzle88 12-18-2017 05:02 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 783042)
I'd rather prefer younger, healthier, stronger offensive linemen from Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska - big corn-fed monsters who absolutely dominate the LOS...

For the past three years, we've all talked about defense and running the ball and now we want to go back to Air Coryell that's been nothing but 0.500 football?!?
I know what you're saying and I'm not saying go Air Coyell, I'm saying when we desperately need 3rd down conversions between 6-8 yards, we never get Receivers open. We are hanging around 35% on third downs for the season.

We were 45.8% last season.

For example, we needed the pass game to work this game because before Ingrams long run, he was at 12 carries for 24 yards....

Ginn, Coleman, Snead and Josh Hill barely make a team elsewhere, Payton has them starting. And while they do an "okay" job, they rarely come up in crunch time.

jeanpierre 12-18-2017 05:14 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
Not many things better than beating New York...

spkb25 12-18-2017 05:19 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 783040)
We need better wide receivers and tight ends.

Coleman, Snead, Ginn and Josh Hill cannot get open consistently like Michael Thomas can.

We need to draft or sign better receivers.

Coleman needs to hang onto that ball better, he almost blew the game single handedly.

Offense has to stop going 3 and out so often, Brees has to stop throwing ints to D lineman deep in our own territory.

With all that said, I'm proud of this team for pulling out 10 wins so far. Who dat!
We do need aother wideout, very true. There's a reason Mike iis catching everything and after him oru RB's are leading in rec.

Seer1 12-18-2017 06:27 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 783040)
We need better wide receivers and tight ends.

Coleman, Snead, Ginn and Josh Hill cannot get open consistently like Michael Thomas can.

We need to draft or sign better receivers.

Coleman needs to hang onto that ball better, he almost blew the game single handedly.

Offense has to stop going 3 and out so often, Brees has to stop throwing ints to D lineman deep in our own territory.

With all that said, I'm proud of this team for pulling out 10 wins so far. Who dat!
And Ginn wasn't even playing.

voodooido 12-18-2017 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 782886)
Wrong. He was in on the all hands kick off /return team a second ago.
That’s makes perfect sense. Guy fumbles twice on two consecutive drives and is back in the game.

K Major 12-18-2017 10:48 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 783045)
We do need aother wideout, very true. There's a reason Mike iis catching everything and after him oru RB's are leading in rec.
Yep. Mike was a solid second round pick & it shows. If you evaluate our roster at the WR position, we have quite a few UDFA's (TLL, Snead, Coleman, Dural, Carr) not only playing but starting yet a lot of us are expecting them to perform like 1st/2nd rounders at the NFL level. Marques Colston's of the world are extremely rare.

I hope we target Jarvis Landry types in the slot and TE's this off season & or look for another speedy WR early (2-4th rounds) in the draft. We're also missing a game breaker (Tyreek Hill type) on kick off returns who can change field position on any given play.

dizzle88 12-18-2017 11:14 AM
Re: Saints vs Jets Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 783093)
Yep. Mike was a solid second round pick & it shows. If you evaluate our roster at the WR position, we have quite a few UDFA's (TLL, Snead, Coleman, Dural, Carr) not only playing but starting yet a lot of us are expecting them to perform like 1st/2nd rounders at the NFL level. Marques Colston's of the world are extremely rare.
That's true, but then they are starting so they should be playing up to a certain standard and they are not meeting that level.

That falls completely on Paytons shoulders, he's traded Drews targets away often for more help elsewhere which is fine, but;

He replaced Cooks with TLL and Ginn - Nowhere near the same talent level

Traded Jimmy, let Ben Watson walk and left us with Josh Hill :rolleyes:

Traded Kenny stills and whilst he wasn't a pro bowler, he and Drew made great 3rd down connections.

If Payton put these guys in, they should be up to a certain standard, not just "oh we don't have any better because I got rid of them all."

Rugby Saint II 12-18-2017 02:51 PM
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We desperately need another receiver to take the pressure off Drew. We also need a tight end........but we definitely need another top draft pick on the O-line.


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