Can we all agree, Vacaro....

ChrisXVI · 12-18-2017, 03:34 PM

Sadly it’s true that Vaccaro is not very good. What I fear though in letting him leave is messing up the defense’s chemistry. What we don’t see is how much he means to the team behind closed doors during the week.

K Major · 12-18-2017, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

What I fear though in letting him leave is messing up the defense’s chemistry.

With all of the key additions around KV in 2017, I thought he'd elevate his game this year. It still hasn't happened. Take him away from the LOS, he's limited in ability. As Rez stated earlier, there will be better options out there in 2018.

mapcow · 12-18-2017, 03:48 PM

Kenny Vaccaro signed a 4 year, $9,424,712 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including a $5,234,336 signing bonus, $9,424,712 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,356,178. In 2017, Vaccaro will earn a base salary of $5,676,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,676,000 and a dead cap value of $5,676,000.

Way too much money for the kind of play he is putting up.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orlea...cash-earnings/

he sucks big time; hell, he sucks so much, I can't even spell his name correctly!

2013 Player Cash Earnings $405,000 $4,618,530 - - - - - $5,023,530
2014 Player Cash Earnings $833,396 - - - - - - $833,396
2015 Player Cash Earnings $1,261,792 - - - - - $56,555 $1,318,347
2016 Player Cash Earnings $1,292,495 - - - - - - $1,292,495
2017 Player Cash Earnings $5,676,000 - - - - - - $5,676,000
5 seasons $9,468,683 $4,618,530 - - - - $56,555

Total $14,143,768

Rugby Saint II · 12-18-2017, 03:00 PM

Some times he's a leader on the field and then sometimes he appears to be a spectator.

mapcow · 12-18-2017, 03:26 PM

"We've got to eliminate the penalties," Payton said. "It shows up every week. The same guys. Every week. Same guys."
Ken Crawley and Kenny Vaccaro walked into Week 15 as the top two most penalized Saints players this season. Vaccaro picked up two pass interference penalties. Crawley landed an unsportsmanlike penalty for a shove on a Jets player still on the ground after the play.

GET RID of 'em!

WhoDat!656 · 12-18-2017, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

"We've got to eliminate the penalties," Payton said. "It shows up every week. The same guys. Every week. Same guys."
Ken Crawley and Kenny Vaccaro walked into Week 15 as the top two most penalized Saints players this season. Vaccaro picked up two pass interference penalties. Crawley landed an unsportsmanlike penalty for a shove on a Jets player still on the ground after the play.

GET RID of 'em!

The call against Crawley was BS; later in the game a Jet player speared a Saints WR while after he was clearly down in front of an official and he wasn't flagged.

ScottF · 12-18-2017, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The call against Crawley was BS; later in the game a Jet player speared a Saints WR while after he was clearly down in front of an official and he wasn't flagged.

it was a bad call, but a stupid play on Crawley's part

Seer1 · 12-18-2017, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

it was a bad call, but a stupid play on Crawley's part

Egggzactly! The player he tackled elbowed Crawley as he was getting off of him so Crawley pushed him back. It was a vet getting one over on a youngster. He just needs to learn that it's the second guy who draws the flag so do it to them first.

Kenny drew a couple of (one of them really dumb) flags, but then he came right back and make some tremendously good tackles. He wouldn't be all that easy to replace.

Danno · 12-18-2017, 03:44 PM

He doesn't suck, he just isn't the A-player we'd hoped for.

He's merely an average NFL safety with occasion good to great games.

Not worth a mega-contract thats for sure.

K Major · 12-18-2017, 03:51 PM

^^^^ Get rid of Crawley? He's been nothing but a solid # 2 corner ever since he got his job back from De'vante Harris earlier this season.

12-18-2017, 03:34 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Sadly it’s true that Vaccaro is not very good. What I fear though in letting him leave is messing up the defense’s chemistry. What we don’t see is how much he means to the team behind closed doors during the week. jnormand likes this.

12-18-2017, 04:56 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Originally Posted by ChrisXVI What I fear though in letting him leave is messing up the defense’s chemistry. With all of the key additions around KV in 2017, I thought he'd elevate his game this year. It still hasn't happened. Take him away from the LOS, he's limited in ability. As Rez stated earlier, there will be better options out there in 2018. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

12-18-2017, 03:48 PM	#3
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Kenny Vaccaro signed a 4 year, $9,424,712 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including a $5,234,336 signing bonus, $9,424,712 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,356,178. In 2017, Vaccaro will earn a base salary of $5,676,000, while carrying a cap hit of $5,676,000 and a dead cap value of $5,676,000. Way too much money for the kind of play he is putting up. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orlea...cash-earnings/ he sucks big time; hell, he sucks so much, I can't even spell his name correctly! 2013 Player Cash Earnings $405,000 $4,618,530 - - - - - $5,023,530 2014 Player Cash Earnings $833,396 - - - - - - $833,396 2015 Player Cash Earnings $1,261,792 - - - - - $56,555 $1,318,347 2016 Player Cash Earnings $1,292,495 - - - - - - $1,292,495 2017 Player Cash Earnings $5,676,000 - - - - - - $5,676,000 5 seasons $9,468,683 $4,618,530 - - - - $56,555 Total $14,143,768
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12-18-2017, 03:26 PM	#5
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... "We've got to eliminate the penalties," Payton said. "It shows up every week. The same guys. Every week. Same guys." Ken Crawley and Kenny Vaccaro walked into Week 15 as the top two most penalized Saints players this season. Vaccaro picked up two pass interference penalties. Crawley landed an unsportsmanlike penalty for a shove on a Jets player still on the ground after the play. GET RID of 'em!
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12-18-2017, 05:07 PM	#6
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,089	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Originally Posted by mapcow "We've got to eliminate the penalties," Payton said. "It shows up every week. The same guys. Every week. Same guys." Ken Crawley and Kenny Vaccaro walked into Week 15 as the top two most penalized Saints players this season. Vaccaro picked up two pass interference penalties. Crawley landed an unsportsmanlike penalty for a shove on a Jets player still on the ground after the play. GET RID of 'em! The call against Crawley was BS; later in the game a Jet player speared a Saints WR while after he was clearly down in front of an official and he wasn't flagged.

12-18-2017, 05:58 PM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The call against Crawley was BS; later in the game a Jet player speared a Saints WR while after he was clearly down in front of an official and he wasn't flagged. it was a bad call, but a stupid play on Crawley's part MarchingOn likes this.

12-18-2017, 06:19 PM	#8
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... Originally Posted by ScottF it was a bad call, but a stupid play on Crawley's part Egggzactly! The player he tackled elbowed Crawley as he was getting off of him so Crawley pushed him back. It was a vet getting one over on a youngster. He just needs to learn that it's the second guy who draws the flag so do it to them first. Kenny drew a couple of (one of them really dumb) flags, but then he came right back and make some tremendously good tackles. He wouldn't be all that easy to replace.

12-18-2017, 03:44 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... He doesn't suck, he just isn't the A-player we'd hoped for. He's merely an average NFL safety with occasion good to great games. Not worth a mega-contract thats for sure. jnormand, RockyMountainSaint and Mardigras9 like this.

12-18-2017, 03:51 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can we all agree, Vacaro.... ^^^^ Get rid of Crawley? He's been nothing but a solid # 2 corner ever since he got his job back from De'vante Harris earlier this season. RockyMountainSaint, Seer1 and MarchingOn like this.

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