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44Champs 12-20-2017 08:56 AM

Saints host WR Josh Huff
 
Insurance for Ginn?

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...-out-josh-huff

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Rugby Saint II 12-20-2017 11:40 AM

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I feel the need for speed........apparently so does Payton. Unfortunately, Snead isn't the man anymore.

Papa Voodoo 12-20-2017 12:16 PM

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He didn't fumble twice. I'd keep Snead out there and move Coleman down a spot.

WhoDat!656 12-20-2017 12:29 PM

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Maybe he can return some punts.

xan 12-20-2017 01:05 PM

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Coleman is one of the best WR blockers in the league and he has better than average catching ability. I think that the last game was an aberration.

Ginn is not durable, which is why we have him and not the panties.

We need good route runners and guys who can get separation. Only Thomas has that ability. A lot of our guys round off their routes, which causes lack of separation and bad timing.

billyt81 12-20-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 783523)
Coleman is one of the best WR blockers in the league and he has better than average catching ability. I think that the last game was an aberration.

Ginn is not durable, which is why we have him and not the panties.

We need good route runners and guys who can get separation. Only Thomas has that ability. A lot of our guys round off their routes, which causes lack of separation and bad timing.

Unfortunately Thomas doesnt get much seperation either. It was great to see him catch a semi deep TD this week. Coleman is a great blocker and he breaks tackles, something else Thomas has struggled to do. The receiving core is probably the weakest part of the team. Hopefully Kmara learns to run fade and other deep routes soon.

K Major 12-20-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 783523)
Coleman is one of the best WR blockers in the league and he has better than average catching ability. I think that the last game was an aberration.


We need good route runners and guys who can get separation. Only Thomas has that ability. A lot of our guys round off their routes, which causes lack of separation and bad timing.

Agreed. His blocking has been lights out all year. Brandon will bounce back (holding on to the ball) on 12/24/2017.

The Dude 12-20-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 783523)
Coleman is one of the best WR blockers in the league and he has better than average catching ability. I think that the last game was an aberration.

Ginn is not durable, which is why we have him and not the panties.

We need good route runners and guys who can get separation. Only Thomas has that ability. A lot of our guys round off their routes, which causes lack of separation and bad timing.

I agree. Think it was just a bad day for him. I say keep throwing at him this week. If it continues then bench. I wouldn’t take him out based on that game.

Danno 12-20-2017 06:56 PM

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I guess we're not sold on Michael Thomas? /sarcasm

homerj07 12-20-2017 09:16 PM

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Ok. Think back to the Chicago game... what happened? Ingram fumbles, twice as we try to ice the game. The game finished with a Lattimore interception. We win the next 2 games, and Ingram looked very solid.

So, Colman fumbles twice, Lattimore intercepts to end the game....

spkb25 12-21-2017 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 783478)
Insurance for Ginn?

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...-out-josh-huff

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I wish we'd host someone for Rankins. Him stink

hagan714 12-21-2017 05:04 AM

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KR is the first thing that came to mind. Special teams player with upside as a WR

K Major 12-21-2017 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 783587)
I wish we'd host someone for Rankins. Him stink

Sheldon has been a good player this season but stink? That is a stretch.

vpheughan 12-22-2017 06:34 PM

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NOPE: Still on his "ROOKIE CONTRACT" LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Danno 12-22-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 783587)
I wish we'd host someone for Rankins. Him stink

Are you on drugs?

jeanpierre 12-22-2017 08:02 PM

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Cam Jordan has the top overall grade among Edge Defenders with a grade of 95.3 (92.0 vs pass and 91.6 vs run) and ahead of guys like Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Demarcus Lawrence...

Sheldon Rankins currently is graded as a the 38th best edge defender with an overall grade of 81.1 (80.1 vs pass and 70.7 vs run)...

David Onyemata has a overall grade of 81.1 and (81.1 vs pass and 74.9 vs run) and is ranked the 38th best interior defender...

At 46th among Defensive Interior players is Tyeler Davison, who has an overall grade of 80.4 (82.5 vs pass and 68.5 vs run)...

Hindsight being 20/20 guys like Akiem Hicks, Tom Johnson, even Junior Galette (no, I don't want him back) are ranked ahead of our three stooges...

And if you think moving Rankins to DE hurt him, think again; he's actually improved since the position move...

Other than the big play at Buffalo, Rankins' been sucking major balls-dage this season and definitely not validating the No. 13 pick of that draft...

Danno 12-22-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 783881)
Cam Jordan has the top overall grade among Edge Defenders with a grade of 95.3 (92.0 vs pass and 91.6 vs run) and ahead of guys like Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Demarcus Lawrence...

Sheldon Rankins currently is graded as a the 38th best edge defender with an overall grade of 81.1 (80.1 vs pass and 70.7 vs run)...

David Onyemata has a overall grade of 81.1 and (81.1 vs pass and 74.9 vs run) and is ranked the 38th best interior defender...

At 46th among Defensive Interior players is Tyeler Davison, who has an overall grade of 80.4 (82.5 vs pass and 68.5 vs run)...

Hindsight being 20/20 guys like Akiem Hicks, Tom Johnson, even Junior Galette (no, I don't want him back) are ranked ahead of our three stooges...

And if you think moving Rankins to DE hurt him, think again; he's actually improved since the position move...

Other than the big play at Buffalo, he's been sucking major balldage this season and definitely not validating the No. 13 pick of that draft...


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Beastmode 12-22-2017 08:10 PM

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This game we will see receivers hitting the turf. No more running around with the rock in one hand and trying to be a Marvel superhero. There is no way that will be tolerated after last week.

spkb25 12-22-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 783604)
Sheldon has been a good player this season but stink? That is a stretch.

WTF has he done, he is on pace for what Ellis did in his second year, so please explain how a reduction in sacks from year 1 to year 2 when year 1 was shortened due to injury is a good thing. I'll wait for the "he's doing more than sacks, he's freeing up others" nonsense. Go ahead, due tell why the bust is not a bust but Ellis was?

spkb25 12-22-2017 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 783851)
Are you on drugs?

Drugs, no but any person on this board singing his praises when his stats rival that of Ellis and everyone on here said Ellis was a bust makes me laugh. Dude is a bust. He has q1 ****ing sack, 1. He has 22 tackles. He is hot garbage

spkb25 12-22-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 783881)

Other than the big play at Buffalo, Rankins' been sucking major balls-dage this season and definitely not validating the No. 13 pick of that draft...

Yeppers. Cracks me up on this board. The same people who called Ellis a bust are calling a player with same stats and impact Reggie White.

But as you can see Rankins hasn't done anything without Nick eating those double teams. Dude won't be on the team in 3 years.

jnormand 12-23-2017 12:02 AM

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Rankins is not the same without a big guy next to him. Obviously.

CheramieIII 12-23-2017 05:15 AM

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Thomas will continue to improve and be a beast. Coleman needs to carry a football around for a couple of weeks and let everyone try to knock it out of his hands. He has to learn that anyone can come from anywhere at anytime and he needs to have both hands on that ball!

hagan714 12-23-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 783920)
Thomas will continue to improve and be a beast. Coleman needs to carry a football around for a couple of weeks and let everyone try to knock it out of his hands. He has to learn that anyone can come from anywhere at anytime and he needs to have both hands on that ball!

Coleman needs to put both hands on the ball and tuck it in tight

Danno 12-23-2017 12:34 PM

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Saints’ Sheldon Rankins is the best defensive lineman no one is talking about in the NFL

The New Orleans Saints defense has been a huge talk of the NFL over the past several weeks, and rightfully so. With the team winning seven straight games after starting in the dreaded 0-2 space, more national outlets are talking black and gold. We already know the defensive line has been playing at a strong level, but who is the one player that no is one talking about that deserves praise?

Cam Jordan needs no accolades here, as he’s clearly one of the top defensive ends in the NFL. For us, it’s between Alex Okafor and Sheldon Rankins, with David Onyemata and Tyeler Davison extremely worthy of honorable mentions. However, Rankins means more to the Saints.

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However, it’s Rankins that quietly steals the show. As noted in a Nick Underhill column in The Advocate last month (which you should read if you haven’t), he could be labeled the brains of the defense.

Cam Jordan: “Whatever the stats don’t show and do show, this guy is clearly evolving into a better pass rusher. He’s able to call out a lot of different things for us. I don’t want to give it away. I’m simply saying he’s becoming the mastermind of the defensive line.”

“If I hear something out there, I immediately come to the sidelines and say, ‘Hey, look, they’re saying this. I’m going to switch this if they say this. It’s just basically trying to play the chess game with the opposing offensive line.” -Sheldon Rankins

Rankins has been one of PFF’s best defensive tackles in terms of Pass Rush Productivity over the past seven weeks, and most recently was Week 10’s second-highest graded defensive tackle in pass coverage with one interception and a 77.2 grade. For perspective, Rankins was 53rd in pass rush productivity through the first two weeks of the season, generating only two hurries and no other pressures. Since then, he ranks 4th with 23 total pressures on 190 pass rushing snaps. For the season, Rankins has an overall grade of 81.4, deemed above average by their standards.

Here’s a few thoughts from our staff:

Chris Dunnells: But speaking of Fairley, if you want to go with REALLY under the radar, I'd go with Sheldon Rankins, because he doesn't have the counting stats that even Okafor has thus far, no one is really talking about him. But after losing Fairley before the season even started, it's been Rankins who has helped anchor the middle of the Saints D-Line and doesn't get nearly the amount of praise he deserves. He's asked to generate interior pressure, plug gaps for inside runs, and even drop box in coverage (what?) at times, leading to his glorious interception last week.

John Sigler: I’d agree with Okafor and Rankins, but David Onyemata has been very impressive. He’s like third on the team in tackles for loss.

Adam Williamson: I would say that most underrated to this point is Rankins. Okafor/Onyemata/CJ94 have all had the stats it seems and everyone is asking where Rankins is. The reality is, he's creating disruption up front to allow Onyemata the opportunity for those TFL in the backfield on a lot of plays. He's dropping into coverage and looking like a agile heavier linebacker in situations. Before the interception, he was the one player people seemed most disappointed with when he had actually been performing well most of the year. He's really stepped it up these past couple weeks and the stats will start to come. This D-Line isn't near as successful without him up front, in my opinion.

Ellias Williams: Rankins hasn't been allowed to penetrate as much as Fairley was allowed to last year. The D-Line as a whole on the interior is doing more freeing up of LBs than gap penetrating at the snap, To which he's done a great job at. More dirty work this year. And yet his versatility goes unnoticed. He's lined up at DE 3-tech, Nose, dropped in coverage, etc. since he's been here. He’s been making line calls since his rookie year and he's smart. If he had Onyemata’s body, he would be dominant.

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WillSaints81 12-23-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 783909)
Drugs, no but any person on this board singing his praises when his stats rival that of Ellis and everyone on here said Ellis was a bust makes me laugh. Dude is a bust. He has q1 ****ing sack, 1. He has 22 tackles. He is hot garbage

Calm down. Rankins does need to step up. He did go to Louiseville though and didn't wow me like Shaq Lawson did or Nkemdvich(its been two years since I last had to pronounce his name).

spkb25 12-23-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 783911)
Rankins is not the same without a big guy next to him. Obviously.

Bingo!

Danno 12-23-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 783911)
Rankins is not the same without a big guy next to him. Obviously.

Losing Okafor hurt. Rankins is not a DE. He is currently not being played to his strengths.

He's a 3-tech DT. If Akafor wasn't hurt he'd still be in the middle.

Another Okafor type is needed this offseason. I hope DE's are plentiful this off-season.

Danno 12-31-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 783587)
I wish we'd host someone for Rankins. Him stink


Uhh, not really


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