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jeanpierre 01-02-2018 07:18 AM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
So far as weapons, Brees has plenty; just because he doesn't have Graham doesn't mean he doesn't have enough weapons around him...

The big question mark is where is Willie Snead as he was the guy who always seem to come through on those 3rd downs we're no longer converting...

jeanpierre 01-02-2018 08:07 AM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 

K Major 01-02-2018 08:13 AM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 785908)
So far as weapons, Brees has plenty; just because he doesn't have Graham doesn't mean he doesn't have enough weapons around him...

The big question mark is where is Willie Snead as he was the guy who always seem to come through on those 3rd downs we're no longer converting...

In the Tampa game, saw Willie open underneath a couple of times however Brees hit Ginn instead. Maybe Carolina will watch the film of this game & not "game plan" for Willie or Coleman for that matter.

If there is ever a game where we need to convert more 3rd downs & have Snead play a big part of it ... it must happen on Sunday.

Rugby Saint II 01-03-2018 02:48 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
Drew could manage this team for several more years and I'm willing to pay top dollar fr it. He is the face of the franchise. You simply don't let that guy go!

burningmetal 01-03-2018 07:39 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 786143)
Drew could manage this team for several more years and I'm willing to pay top dollar fr it. He is the face of the franchise. You simply don't let that guy go!

Well you are certainly entitled to that opinion. But I see game managers around the league that I could get for a lot less. If I were to pay top dollar for a player, I expect top notch results, regardless of what his name is, or what the perception of him is.

It's a business, and I don't believe in paying for sentimental reasons. I might be in the minority on this board, but I've always been more of the type to look at production, and I don't get attached to players very much.

That's not to say Drew isn't capable. But I am firmly of the belief that players diminish at this age, not matter what they try to say about their nutrition. Nutrition might help your ticker, but it won't save you from bone crushing hits over a long career. But I guess none of this is really my problem anymore. It'll be what it'll be.

homerj07 01-03-2018 08:39 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
Sorry Drew brings more then just a game manager. He is the face of the Saints. Some of the money he, or any face of a franchise, does get paid for that.

For better or worse.

The jackass Ravens set the bar when they gave top dollar to that idiot QB Flacco. Then the bar got broken again and again.

Who would you rather have, that will be available, at QB for next year?

saintfan 01-03-2018 08:47 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
An argument can be made, I think, that Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last year. We saw how that turned out.

And Drew Brees is a long long (really long) way from that.

burningmetal 01-03-2018 09:04 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 786208)
Sorry Drew brings more then just a game manager. He is the face of the Saints. Some of the money he, or any face of a franchise, does get paid for that.

For better or worse.

The jackass Ravens set the bar when they gave top dollar to that idiot QB Flacco. Then the bar got broken again and again.

Who would you rather have, that will be available, at QB for next year?

I don't follow the team, other than checking box scores anymore, so it's of no actual consequence to me, either way. I'm arguing from a matter of practicality, in how I see it.

Alex Smith will be available, and considering the comparison of how he and Brees both played this year, I might sign him, knowing he's cheaper and has a few less years of wear and tear. Now, if Drew wanted to take lesser money (I doubt that happens), then I'd stay with him a little longer. But I'm not willing to pay "face of the franchise" money, on reputation. Show me you're elite, and I'll pay you accordingly.

burningmetal 01-03-2018 09:07 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 786213)
An argument can be made, I think, that Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last year. We saw how that turned out.

And Drew Brees is a long long (really long) way from that.

Peyton Manning was a broken down shell of himself, and got benched. There is being a game manager, and being bad. Peyton was bad by that point. They won a super bowl with defense.

Same way the 2000 Ravens won with Trent Dilfer and an all time great defense.

Drew proved to be a pretty good game manager this year. But is that worth elite money? I'd argue that no, it isn't. But I have no doubt that is what he'll get.

saintfan 01-03-2018 09:43 PM

Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 786219)
Peyton Manning was a broken down shell of himself, and got benched. There is being a game manager, and being bad. Peyton was bad by that point. They won a super bowl with defense.

Same way the 2000 Ravens won with Trent Dilfer and an all time great defense.

Drew proved to be a pretty good game manager this year. But is that worth elite money? I'd argue that no, it isn't. But I have no doubt that is what he'll get.

Just can't accept any comparison of Drew Brees as a game manager. I'll agree that Trent Dilfer was the all time great 'game manager'. This is not Drew Brees.

Or, aren't all QBs game managers? It can only matter then which is the best of the managers, and I'd rank Drew Brees as high on that list as I would have in 2009. Today.

But if you consider a 'game manager' to be some sort of 'lesser' abled QB, which is how I would use the term, then we will just have to agree to disagree.


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