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WhoDat!656 01-01-2018 12:16 PM

Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
"No. 1: Can't beat a team three times in a season? Says who? Since the AFL-NFL merger, teams that beat an opponent twice in the regular season are 13-7 in a third meeting in the playoffs."

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Danno 01-01-2018 12:36 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
If we play like we did against Tampa we will not win.

The Dude 01-01-2018 12:47 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
Yea the team yesterday couldn’t beat the Browns. We lost to a team with 4 wins. Doesn’t matter how close the games were when they played Carolina and Atlanta, they were still a 4 win team. Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties. You have to beat playoff teams to get anywhere once you get to the playoffs.

saintfan 01-01-2018 12:52 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 785783)
Yea the team yesterday couldn’t beat the Browns. We lost to a team with 4 wins. Doesn’t matter how close the games were when they played Carolina and Atlanta, they were still a 4 win team. Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties. You have to beat playoff teams to get anywhere once you get to the playoffs.

Just like New England beat Miami in the second meeting?

ooops...

Nonsense. We played poorly. Tampa made some plays. It happens, and if you think Tampa has 4 win talent on that team I'm sorry to say, you're wrong.

The talk before the game was whether or not we could survive the injuries. We've been hit hard. It is what it is, but man, you're going WAY over the top. We all wanted to win, but yours isn't exactly the voice of reason right now.

Take a pill.

dizzle88 01-01-2018 12:57 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 785780)
If we play like we did against Tampa we will not win.

Hopefully that was the wake up call.

D allowed too many 3rd down conversions

Offense stalled multiple times, couldn't convert third downs and got 10 points from 3 turnovers.

WhoDat!656 01-01-2018 01:07 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 785785)
Just like New England beat Miami in the second meeting?

ooops...

Nonsense. We played poorly. Tampa made some plays. It happens, and if you think Tampa has 4 win talent on that team I'm sorry to say, you're wrong.

The talk before the game was whether or not we could survive the injuries. We've been hit hard. It is what it is, but man, you're going WAY over the top. We all wanted to win, but yours isn't exactly the voice of reason right now.

Take a pill.

Or get laid!

WW_Who_Dat 01-01-2018 01:50 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties.

Dude ... Falcons week 16 ... Saints win ... Falcons Wild Card

Danno 01-01-2018 03:23 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
Saints over Cats
Falcons over Rams

Saints over Vikes
Falcons over Eagles

Saints host Falcons for NFCCG!!!

WhoDat!656 01-01-2018 03:47 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 785783)
Yea the team yesterday couldn’t beat the Browns. We lost to a team with 4 wins. Doesn’t matter how close the games were when they played Carolina and Atlanta, they were still a 4 win team. Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties. You have to beat playoff teams to get anywhere once you get to the playoffs.

Saints beat 3 teams that made it to the playoffs: failclowns, kittens and Bills.

Danno 01-01-2018 04:06 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 785820)
Saints beat 3 teams that made it to the playoffs: failclowns, kittens and Bills.

We're 4-4 versus the current playoff field.

Atl 1-1
Car 2-0
NE 0-1
Bills 1-0
Vikes 0-1
Rams 0-1

Home (3 - 1) lost to NE badly
Away (1 - 3) lost to Falcons (but not really), Min, LAR

WhoDat!656 01-01-2018 04:32 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
Is it harder to beat a team 3 times in a season or not LOSE to a team three times in a season?

Danno 01-01-2018 04:40 PM

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I think its just logical.

Probably 3/4 of the NFL teams are good enough to beat you on any given day, so beating a "decent" NFL team 3 times in the same year is like winning a coin toss 3 times in a row.

ChrisXVI 01-01-2018 04:55 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 785783)
Yea the team yesterday couldn’t beat the Browns. We lost to a team with 4 wins. Doesn’t matter how close the games were when they played Carolina and Atlanta, they were still a 4 win team. Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties. You have to beat playoff teams to get anywhere once you get to the playoffs.

I don’t know if you saw the Panthers yesterday, but that team couldn’t have beat the Browns.

saintfan 01-01-2018 05:47 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 785829)
I think its just logical.

Probably 3/4 of the NFL teams are good enough to beat you on any given day, so beating a "decent" NFL team 3 times in the same year is like winning a coin toss 3 times in a row.

I'm going to remind you of this the next time I say the draft is a crap shoot.

:lolup:

I agree though. But there are things you can do to tip the odds in your favor. Or you can flip them in the other direction, like with ill-timed otherwise unnecessary fake FGs.

:lolup:

:bng:

Utah_Saint 01-01-2018 07:22 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 785829)
I think its just logical.

Probably 3/4 of the NFL teams are good enough to beat you on any given day, so beating a "decent" NFL team 3 times in the same year is like winning a coin toss 3 times in a row.

After landing on heads two times in a row, the odds of landing on heads a third time are still 50-50.

44Champs 01-03-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 785783)
Yea the team yesterday couldn’t beat the Browns. We lost to a team with 4 wins. Doesn’t matter how close the games were when they played Carolina and Atlanta, they were still a 4 win team. Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties. You have to beat playoff teams to get anywhere once you get to the playoffs.

We also beat Atlanta.

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K Major 01-03-2018 08:40 AM

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For the most part, the NFL is a week to week league.

AsylumGuido 01-03-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 785827)
Is it harder to beat a team 3 times in a season or not LOSE to a team three times in a season?

It is clearly harder to not lose to a team three times in a season, especially when that team that won the prior two is playing at home.

SaintFanInATLHELL 01-03-2018 08:46 AM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 785783)
Yea the team yesterday couldn’t beat the Browns. We lost to a team with 4 wins. Doesn’t matter how close the games were when they played Carolina and Atlanta, they were still a 4 win team. Good teams beat teams with records like that. We haven’t won a single game against any of the teams in the playoffs except the Panties. You have to beat playoff teams to get anywhere once you get to the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 786087)
We also beat Atlanta.

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And the Bills too. Also take a look at the losses. 5 losses. All to current playoff teams except for TB, including a #1, #2, and #3 seed. And honestly there were extenuating circumstances with most of them:

1. Minnesota: PJ Williams was a starting CB and Lattimore was playing in his first game.
2. Patriots: Same and Anzalone was matched up with Gronk. Talk about a mismatch.
3. Rams: Lattimore and Crawley didn't play at all.
4. Falcons: Brees put a winnable game in jeopardy with a stupid throw in the red zone.

The team out on the field this upcoming Sunday is different, and better, than the team we fielded even a month ago.

I really think Dude is simply steeling himself for the case that the Saints do not win the SB. Of course each and every team that makes the playoffs wins the SB each season. NOT! I really think more of us here need to be like Buffalo Bills fans: don't worry about the outcome, just enjoy the fact that you get a chance to take the ride.

SFIAH

foreverfan 01-03-2018 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 785821)
We're 4-4 versus the current playoff field.

Atl 1-1
Car 2-0
NE 0-1
Bills 1-0
Vikes 0-1
Rams 0-1

Home (3 - 1) lost to NE badly
Away (1 - 3) lost to Falcons (but not really), Min, LAR

We've lost 18 players to IR. We aren't even the same team. We will be beyond lucky to make the NFC Championship game. :rolleyes:

SaintFanInATLHELL 01-03-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 785866)
After landing on heads two times in a row, the odds of landing on heads a third time are still 50-50.

True. But all that shows is that the outcome of a single event is different than the total outcome of all the events. Three heads in a row has a 12.5% chance even though each individual toss is a 50% chance.

But that presumes that all things are equal. And when it comes to the Kitties, all things are not equal:

1. The Saints have the better running game.
2. The Saints have the better receivers.
3. The Saints have the better QB in terms of accuracy, game management, and honestly overall common sense.
4. The Saints have the better secondary.
5. The Saints have the better offensive line.

So the first two games were unequal. This one will be too. Add to that the fact that the Dome will be rocking, I fully expect to be marching right into the divisional round.

None of the coin toss math works when there isn't a 50/50 chance on each toss.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 01-03-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 786091)
We've lost 18 players to IR. We aren't even the same team. We will be beyond lucky to make the NFC Championship game. :rolleyes:

Of course we aren't the same team. We are better. EVERY team in the NFL has lost a number of players to the IR list. Some have had more critical hits than the Saints. Both the Vikings and the Eagles have lost their starting QB's. The Vikings also lost their best RB. Carolina has placed FIVE WR's and two TE's on IR this season. The Falcons just lost a starting guard to IR this week.

K Major 01-03-2018 09:25 AM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 786091)
We've lost 18 players to IR. We aren't even the same team. We will be beyond lucky to make the NFC Championship game. :rolleyes:

Green Bay had 15 players on IR that won SB XLV vs the Steelers here in Deathstar a few years ago. Charles Woodson & Donald Driver were cheerleaders most of the second half. Oh, and they were #6 seed.

When the playoffs start on sat, everyone is 0-0 ;). No excuses.

Rugby Saint II 01-03-2018 02:41 PM

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Beating a team three times in a row that is built to beat you is difficult. They also have a stout defense.

K Major 01-03-2018 02:49 PM

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It's also difficult to beat a team one time when they are better than you ;).

Cruize 01-03-2018 04:57 PM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
They are amazing runners, and for all intensive purposes, fill the roles of the 2nd and 3rd WR's as well as the TE. So, let's just hope they both stay upright. :)

K Major 01-05-2018 08:24 AM

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With the uncertainty of Armstead on Sunday ...

Addison/Peppers vs Peat/Ramz. Important match up for me.

Beastmode 01-05-2018 08:49 AM

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Really concerned about Olsen just like I was about Theilen. I see them relying heavily on Olsen. Funchess can be locked down, Mctaffy can't run inside so he's very one dimensional on the outside. Cam can run but when that happens his passing gets more off target. Probably see some big runs from him early on then meltdowns when his throws get picked later on. That's how I see it going down.

Audiotom 01-05-2018 09:06 AM

Re: Saints vs. Panthers: 5 things to know ahead of Sunday's playoff match-up between New Orleans, Carolina
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 785821)
We're 4-4 versus the current playoff field.

Atl 1-1
Car 2-0
NE 0-1
Bills 1-0
Vikes 0-1
Rams 0-1

Home (3 - 1) lost to NE badly
Away (1 - 3) lost to Falcons (but not really), Min, LAR

and 2 of those games were before we realized the NFL season started and ripped off 8 straight


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