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jeanpierre 01-11-2018 02:57 PM
Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 

hitta 01-11-2018 03:06 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Minnesota's defense is one of the few defenses in the league that I can honestly say has been exceptional in both stopping the pass and the run throughout the entirety of the year.

We're going to have to stay balanced, and don't abandon the run regardless of whether it is working or not. We're going to have to keep their defense on their toes to stop both the run and the pass.. because to beat Minnesota we are going to need to capitalize on a few big plays.

K Major 01-11-2018 03:21 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
The Saints will be the best offense they've seen ALL SEASON & expect rust from this "vaunted D" :rolleyes:. They are solid on defense but not elite. Put down the anointing oil.

Trust me, we'll move the ball on em. This isn't the 2000 Ravens defense.

saintfan 01-11-2018 03:50 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 788193)
The Saints will be the best offense they've seen ALL SEASON & expect rust from this "vaunted D" :rolleyes:. They are solid on defense but not elite. Put down the anointing oil.

Trust me, we'll move the ball on em. This isn't the 2000 Ravens defense.
Watching and reading this week has reminded me we did move the ball on them. There's a Drew Brees audio clip they're showing where he says we had 8 drives and moved the ball...but didn't score touchdowns.

I'm also seeing clips of them blowing up our offensive line.

In my mind, that first game might as well have been last season. Things are that much different for both teams. I'm most worried though about our injuries. I would be supremely confident if we were healthy. As it is I'm calling it 27-24 Saints.

:bng:

73Saint 01-11-2018 04:19 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
20 on IR as of today. That just sounds crazy to me.

AsylumGuido 01-11-2018 04:55 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 788196)
20 on IR as of today. That just sounds crazy to me.
Nothing but a small footnote when Brees is hosting the Lombardi for the second time on February 4th!

15-5 Baby!

:bng:

AsylumGuido 01-11-2018 04:58 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 788194)
Watching and reading this week has reminded me we did move the ball on them. There's a Drew Brees audio clip they're showing where he says we had 8 drives and moved the ball...but didn't score touchdowns.

I'm also seeing clips of them blowing up our offensive line.

In my mind, that first game might as well have been last season. Things are that much different for both teams. I'm most worried though about our injuries. I would be supremely confident if we were healthy. As it is I'm calling it 27-24 Saints.

:bng:
Night and day! We have improved tremendously and they have been treading water against a weak schedule. We are going to release all sort of hell on them come Sunday.

15-5 Baby!

:bng:

jeanpierre 01-11-2018 05:30 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 788193)
The Saints will be the best offense they've seen ALL SEASON & expect rust from this "vaunted D" :rolleyes:. They are solid on defense but not elite. Put down the anointing oil.

Trust me, we'll move the ball on em. This isn't the 2000 Ravens defense.
I'm hopeful, just not as confident as this is a pretty special defense that the Vikings have...

They've got guys rightfully recognized on all three levels (i.e. defensive linemen, linebackers, defensive backs)...

Brees will have to play a game better than he gave against the Panthers as well as Michael Thomas and the receivers...

Personally, I think we're gonna pound them with body shots aka run game as that facet of our game is much better...

I'd like to see more Off-Tackle stuff, right at those pass rushers to wear their asses out, as well as those big interior boys...

Even if the game is 9-6, 12-10 at the half, we'll be in striking range for a big play to break things open for us in the second half...

saintfan 01-11-2018 05:36 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 788205)
I'm hopeful, just not as confident as this is a pretty special defense that the Vikings have...

They've got guys rightfully recognized on all three levels (i.e. defensive linemen, linebackers, defensive backs)...

Brees will have to play a game better than he gave against the Panthers as well as Michael Thomas and the receivers...

Personally, I think we're gonna pound them with body shots aka run game as that facet of our game is much better...

I'd like to see more Off-Tackle stuff, right at those pass rushers to wear their asses out, as well as those big interior boys...

Even if the game is 9-6, 12-10 at the half, we'll be in striking range for a big play to break things open for us in the second half...
Agreed. Field position is especially vital. Special teams could have a word to say in this game.

SaintFanQ 01-11-2018 05:40 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Iv'e already got butterflies in my stomach for Sundays game and theres still another 3 days to go!

GEAUX SAINTS!! WHO DAT!

The Dude 01-11-2018 06:28 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 788194)
Watching and reading this week has reminded me we did move the ball on them. There's a Drew Brees audio clip they're showing where he says we had 8 drives and moved the ball...but didn't score touchdowns.

I'm also seeing clips of them blowing up our offensive line.

In my mind, that first game might as well have been last season. Things are that much different for both teams. I'm most worried though about our injuries. I would be supremely confident if we were healthy. As it is I'm calling it 27-24 Saints.

:bng:
We were in the red zone 4 times. Just have to execute.

Beastmode 01-11-2018 07:16 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
This is ***** TOP SECRET *****

Saints D is also pretty damn good. They stop 4th and goal runs, stop game winning drives and knock the snot out of big mobile QB's and force them into little blue tents.

WW_Who_Dat 01-11-2018 08:01 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 788216)
This is ***** TOP SECRET *****

Saints D is also pretty damn good. They stop 4th and goal runs, stop game winning drives and knock the snot out of big mobile QB's and force them into little blue tents.
Yeah ... Dat what I'm talking bout !!! :smokin::bng: SCAM SLAM

Utah_Saint 01-11-2018 08:53 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 788194)
Watching and reading this week has reminded me we did move the ball on them. There's a Drew Brees audio clip they're showing where he says we had 8 drives and moved the ball...but didn't score touchdowns.

I'm also seeing clips of them blowing up our offensive line.

In my mind, that first game might as well have been last season. Things are that much different for both teams. I'm most worried though about our injuries. I would be supremely confident if we were healthy. As it is I'm calling it 27-24 Saints.

:bng:
The thing I remember most from that first game was how Unger hadn't practiced durning the preseason and Armstead was out. Ramczyk started his first game in Armstead's spot. In the first quarter, Strief went down and Kelemete came in. As a result, the line play was terrible. It was easy to tell they had no cohesiveness, they weren't used to playing together yet. Brees had no time and there were no holes for the running backs. I suspect the line will play a heck of a lot better this go around. (unless someone gets hurt again)

K Major 01-11-2018 08:55 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Armstead vs Everson Griffen - > that will be a good match up.

jeanpierre 01-12-2018 12:59 AM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 788231)
The thing I remember most from that first game was how Unger hadn't practiced durning the preseason and Armstead was out. Ramczyk started his first game in Armstead's spot. In the first quarter, Strief went down and Kelemete came in. As a result, the line play was terrible. It was easy to tell they had no cohesiveness, they weren't used to playing together yet. Brees had no time and there were no holes for the running backs. I suspect the line will play a heck of a lot better this go around. (unless someone gets hurt again)
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homerj07 01-12-2018 01:15 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 788194)
Watching and reading this week has reminded me we did move the ball on them. There's a Drew Brees audio clip they're showing where he says we had 8 drives and moved the ball...but didn't score touchdowns.

I'm also seeing clips of them blowing up our offensive line.

In my mind, that first game might as well have been last season. Things are that much different for both teams. I'm most worried though about our injuries. I would be supremely confident if we were healthy. As it is I'm calling it 27-24 Saints.

:bng:
The health is a huge issue. They have very few on the injury report OR out for the season. We are like an episode of the Walking Dead :hallucinate:

AsylumGuido 01-12-2018 01:31 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 788333)
The health is a huge issue. They have very few on the injury report OR out for the season. We are like an episode of the Walking Dead :hallucinate:
Their starting left guard just broke his ankle. They lost their starting and backup QB's. They lost their 1st round draft choice RB, as well.

73Saint 01-12-2018 01:36 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintFanQ (Post 788207)
Iv'e already got butterflies in my stomach for Sundays game and theres still another 3 days to go!

GEAUX SAINTS!! WHO DAT!
Me too

vpheughan 01-12-2018 01:58 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
"Not certain but I believe if the Saints score more points than the Vikings they should win the game. I'm sure there are some EGGSPURTS who'll argue that point!"

Lord_Saint83 01-12-2018 02:01 PM
Re: Creating 'havoc': Vikings greatest strength could exploit Saints greatest weakness
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 788232)
Armstead vs Everson Griffen - > that will be a good match up.

I heard griffen has plantar fasciitis if that is true that helps armstead out alot and drew too


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