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Cruize 01-27-2018 10:48 AM

Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances
 
The Saints offered. He signed. A certain amount should be guaranteed. But not all. He never stepped on the field.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2018 10:55 AM

Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances
 
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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 790848)
The Saints offered. He signed. A certain amount should be guaranteed. But not all. He never stepped on the field.

The base pay certainly isn't. But, the $8M signing bonus is "if the contract is honored". They likely paid him a portion of the signing bonus with the remainder to be paid during the season. I'll bet that is where the contention lies.

Utah_Saint 01-27-2018 06:25 PM

Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances
 
Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it.

Beastmode 01-27-2018 08:42 PM

Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 790868)
Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it.

We do not have all the facts and the Saints would not be in this fight unless they had some legal ground to stand on. Maybe he withheld info, who knows but if that is the case then he gets jack squat. I personally think he will lose this fight. He was an ok player but for the most part lazy and unproductive until money was on the table.

AsylumGuido 01-28-2018 07:58 AM

Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 790868)
Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it.

It doesn't work that way, though. If it is guaranteed it counts against the cap. Cut and dry. You can't have it both ways. That is a certainty. The ONLY way to keep it from counting against the cap is to void it in some manner.

Utah_Saint 01-28-2018 04:09 PM

Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 790880)
It doesn't work that way, though. If it is guaranteed it counts against the cap. Cut and dry. You can't have it both ways. That is a certainty. The ONLY way to keep it from counting against the cap is to void it in some manner.

Yeah, that's why they're going to arbitration. I just think they should change the rules. There's no reason, from a competitive standpoint, to penalize the team. It just causes hard feelings from both sides.


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