Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances

Cruize · 01-27-2018, 10:48 AM

The Saints offered. He signed. A certain amount should be guaranteed. But not all. He never stepped on the field.

AsylumGuido · 01-27-2018, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The Saints offered. He signed. A certain amount should be guaranteed. But not all. He never stepped on the field.

The base pay certainly isn't. But, the $8M signing bonus is "if the contract is honored". They likely paid him a portion of the signing bonus with the remainder to be paid during the season. I'll bet that is where the contention lies.

Utah_Saint · 01-27-2018, 06:25 PM

Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it.

Beastmode · 01-27-2018, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it.

We do not have all the facts and the Saints would not be in this fight unless they had some legal ground to stand on. Maybe he withheld info, who knows but if that is the case then he gets jack squat. I personally think he will lose this fight. He was an ok player but for the most part lazy and unproductive until money was on the table.

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2018, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it.

It doesn't work that way, though. If it is guaranteed it counts against the cap. Cut and dry. You can't have it both ways. That is a certainty. The ONLY way to keep it from counting against the cap is to void it in some manner.

Utah_Saint · 01-28-2018, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It doesn't work that way, though. If it is guaranteed it counts against the cap. Cut and dry. You can't have it both ways. That is a certainty. The ONLY way to keep it from counting against the cap is to void it in some manner.

Yeah, that's why they're going to arbitration. I just think they should change the rules. There's no reason, from a competitive standpoint, to penalize the team. It just causes hard feelings from both sides.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances The Saints offered. He signed. A certain amount should be guaranteed. But not all. He never stepped on the field.
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01-27-2018, 10:55 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances Originally Posted by Cruize The Saints offered. He signed. A certain amount should be guaranteed. But not all. He never stepped on the field. The base pay certainly isn't. But, the $8M signing bonus is "if the contract is honored". They likely paid him a portion of the signing bonus with the remainder to be paid during the season. I'll bet that is where the contention lies.

01-27-2018, 06:25 PM	#13
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it. SaintGnome likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it. We do not have all the facts and the Saints would not be in this fight unless they had some legal ground to stand on. Maybe he withheld info, who knows but if that is the case then he gets jack squat. I personally think he will lose this fight. He was an ok player but for the most part lazy and unproductive until money was on the table.
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01-28-2018, 07:58 AM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Just my opinion but he should be paid every penny that was guaranteed, hence the word guarantee. But none of it should count against the cap since it wasn't the fault of the team and they got no benefit from it. It doesn't work that way, though. If it is guaranteed it counts against the cap. Cut and dry. You can't have it both ways. That is a certainty. The ONLY way to keep it from counting against the cap is to void it in some manner.

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01-28-2018, 04:09 PM	#16
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Nick Fairley, Saints await decision on contract grievances Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It doesn't work that way, though. If it is guaranteed it counts against the cap. Cut and dry. You can't have it both ways. That is a certainty. The ONLY way to keep it from counting against the cap is to void it in some manner. Yeah, that's why they're going to arbitration. I just think they should change the rules. There's no reason, from a competitive standpoint, to penalize the team. It just causes hard feelings from both sides.

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