Vince McMahon bringing back the XFL?
 

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HE HATE ME!!!!!!!

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X for women's football?

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We have some past players that will find this good news.

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Well, good timing at least.

Lose the gimmicks, make it more like pure football and it might work

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I just listened to the press conference and Vince is so vague and dry. I think he is going to need a charismatic commissioner/leader to head it up that people can get behind - seems like Vince even admitted as much. Get the right person and it could work.

At the very least the NFL might actually give a slight thought in 2018-2019 about how they are running things with XFL coming in 2020. It can't hurt.

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Perfect league for the Ryan brothers to coach in.

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Good. Competition may be just what the doctor ordered for the NFL.

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At least it provides players that can't make it in the NFL to have an income and for a small few to make NFL rosters. He had absolutely no plan of what to do last time so if he hasn't worked it out it will fold again. Arena football had a plan and is good entertainment.

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The USFL, or something like it, would be the thing to bring back. It was successful the first time, but the NFL illegally monopolized the market, and though the fan interest was there, many of the owners mismanaged their money.

The USFL WON their antitrust case against the NFL, but for reasons I have yet to hear, they were only awarded 3 dollars in the case. That pretty much bankrupted that league. It is pretty obvious there was some type of collusion going on to keep the USFL from competing with the NFL.

Get another USFL-type league back together, and get a commissioner with an actual plan, and let's see if the NFL can pull off another scam.

One of two things will happen: Either the NFL is forced to start playing by the rules AND respecting all of it's fan base, or they will eventually fold, as is all but inevitable as things currently stand, in my opinion. Either way, it will work itself out for the better.

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hes brewing something that will eventually open the nfl's eyes again, it comes back to what the fans want. no dick tater ship.

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This may be perfect timing for him. A lot of people are getting fed up with the NFL. Not because of the dumb anthem thing but because of all the ticky tack rules and extreme lack of parity. It’s so obviously scripted now it’s pathetic.

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You'd have to define success?

Some good things - players - coaches that came from the league to the NFL that ended up being good pretty good in the NFL. Finacially they were off to a rocky start from the beginning and couldn't figure out the finacing and establishing a cap.

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I think it is great.

I thought it was fun and adding somethings to the game of football made it interesting to wacth like the kick off was fun or different. Who can't recall 'He HATES ME'.

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£20 says the XFL figure out what a catch is before the NFL do.

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It was successful in bringing in fan support, especially in how quickly it did so.

What you mentioned about them having financial problems is what I alluded to when I said that many of the owners mismanaged their money. I'm not a fan of a cap, and don't agree with those who have said not having a cap was the problem. Baseball has never had a cap, and I'm not sure if the NBA does either, though I know both of those leagues have employed a luxury tax threshold, which I think is the best way to keep teams from going crazy, without simultaneously choking out any chance to gain a competitive advantage.

I believe success deserves to be rewarded. Salary caps prevent that. It makes no sense when all leagues already give the worst team the first pick in the draft, or at least a very high pick, for those sports that use the lottery system.

With the USFL, they just got too aggressive, and without at least having a luxury tax threshold, the bidding wars for players got out of control. They attempted to move the start of the league year from the spring to the fall, to compete head to head with the NFL, and filed that lawsuit against the NFL, but got screwed despite winning the suit.

They just didn't have enough leadership at the top, when it came to finances, and also I strongly suspect that collusion was at play with the way that lawsuit played out. The XFL was a different story. It was just over the top silly, in my opinion.

But maybe McMahon learned something, and will try to have more of an honest league. That would be hard to believe, coming from him.

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I like it for the fact the scouting and drafting is so piss poor that you can find another professional league to actually scout and they will be playing.

Anyone remember the USFL or WLAF? Many players that became impact players in the NFL, it seemed the USFL showcased more of that than any other league though with what came out of there. This will be a good time to see more QBs in action as the NFL is about to dry up on elite Qbs.

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I agree with Danno. Great timing! Every little stab at the NFL only takes away from the already declining fan base. Goodell is stupid and his advertisers will pay for that stupidity.

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i 'member when the AFL was the upstart. - but they had different Texans and Titans.

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Yes, the monopoly WAS the main issue for the suit. They planned to go head to head with the NFL schedule but, among other things, the biggest issue was trying to secure TV rights for their games. For the USFL to try to go head to head with the NFL in the Fall and THEN go ahead with the lawsuit, as you suggested, would not have been an option, in my opinion. They needed to show that the NFL was conspiring with, or, "pressuring" the networks to avoid the USFL, in order to have a chance to compete for said network rights.

It seemed pretty obvious there was a great deal of chicanery going on with the NFL, but the jury (who admitted that the NFL had acted unlawfully, thus their verdict against the NFL) claimed that too much of the evidence was circumstantial, and they complained that they were tired and wanted to go home, so they "compromised" on the 1 dollar settlement, which was tripled to 3 dollars under antitrust law.

They (the jury) also claimed that they thought their low settlement number was going to be a signal to the judge to go ahead and decide the actual damage cost. That isn't how it works, and I don't buy that excuse by those jurors. I believe members of that jury were bought off by the NFL. Of course, that is only speculation on my part, but it is clear that something ridiculous happened with that jury for them to bungle it up as they did.

There is no question that some of the owners in that league were horribly mismanaging their money, which led to the successful owners having to find a way to put pressure on the NFL and perhaps force a merger with some of the teams. But if the USFL had gotten the money they SHOULD have in that suit, it would have given them an excellent opportunity to establish themselves, or at least merge a few franchises. The NFL owners clearly didn't want this competition coming into their markets, and Pete Rozelle (for as much as people act like he was a saint) seemed willing to do whatever it took to block the USFL.

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In that case I hope they hire Roger and Deontay Wilder and throw Roger in a cage with him and watch him get beat til his last gasping breath.

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I will watch it with all my heart.