Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better

jeanpierre · 02-07-2018, 02:46 PM

jeanpierre · 02-07-2018, 02:46 PM

We have our starters, we just need depth...

saintsfan1976 · 02-08-2018, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We have our starters, we just need depth...

PJ is depth, not a legit starter
Vaccaro will be gone
Breaux can't stay healthy
Rafael is depth
Vonn needs to be more consistent

We need upgrades in the secondary.

jeanpierre · 02-08-2018, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

PJ is depth, not a legit starter
Vaccaro will be gone
Breaux can't stay healthy
Rafael is depth
Vonn needs to be more consistent

We need upgrades in the secondary.

'76, What would you upgrade? Bell? Not a bad group of starters as they are now...

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 24 - Sterling Moore (Free Agent)

SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 25 - Rafael Bush (Free Agent)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2018, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

'76, What would you upgrade? Bell? Not a bad group of starters as they are now...

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 24 - Sterling Moore (Free Agent)

SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 25 - Rafael Bush (Free Agent)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet

We run a lot of 3 safety. I see two young starters and one is inconsistent.

PJ is very average in the slot and certainty not a guy I trust on the outside.

Remember what our secondary looked like when Lattimore went down?

jeanpierre · 02-21-2018, 01:49 PM

So this is where we stand before re-signing or drafting any help...

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore

SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet

K Major · 02-07-2018, 03:21 PM

Bring in a true slot corner via FA. I'm not ruling out Malcolm Butler either.

Draft a SS or see what it would take to acquire Morgan Burnett or take a flyer on Eric Reid.

Offer Breaux a vet minimum, let him compete for a roster spot. I don't think he's a lock to make this 2018 team.

voodooido · 02-12-2018, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bring in a true slot corner via FA. I'm not ruling out Malcolm Butler either.

Draft a SS or see what it would take to acquire Morgan Burnett or take a flyer on Eric Reid.

Offer Breaux a vet minimum, let him compete for a roster spot. I don't think he's a lock to make this 2018 team.

Butler will cost too much to be a #3. I would bring Breaux back as well with the lowest tender. Reid is a cancer and would destroy the locker room. We got rid of the bad influences in the past couple of years. No reason to bring in another. Resign Bush and let KV walk if he wants an arm and a leg. I would rather sign Moore, Bush and Breaux for the price it might be for KV. We have bigger needs than a safety that may not even start. Need a WR to go with MT and Ginn. Maybe steal a TE in the draft. Not to mention our O-line.

jeanpierre · 02-08-2018, 05:36 PM

Butler is not the slot CB everyone thinks he is and his market price won't justify his production - bank it...

Euphoria · 02-08-2018, 07:29 PM

Butler... if he had a chance to run to any team, we will be prime suspect.

We had a very good meet with him last off season before the trades were happening. He knows who we are after the time he spent last off season.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 PJ is depth, not a legit starter Vaccaro will be gone Breaux can't stay healthy Rafael is depth Vonn needs to be more consistent We need upgrades in the secondary. '76, What would you upgrade? Bell? Not a bad group of starters as they are now... RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, *24 - Sterling Moore (Free Agent)* SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, *25 - Rafael Bush (Free Agent)* LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better Originally Posted by jeanpierre '76, What would you upgrade? Bell? Not a bad group of starters as they are now... RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, *24 - Sterling Moore (Free Agent)* SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, *25 - Rafael Bush (Free Agent)* LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet We run a lot of 3 safety. I see two young starters and one is inconsistent. PJ is very average in the slot and certainty not a guy I trust on the outside. Remember what our secondary looked like when Lattimore went down? jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better So this is where we stand before re-signing or drafting any help... RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better Originally Posted by jeanpierre We have our starters, we just need depth... PJ is depth, not a legit starter Vaccaro will be gone Breaux can't stay healthy Rafael is depth Vonn needs to be more consistent We need upgrades in the secondary. Barry from MS, Rugby Saint II, Garry42 and 2 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better Bring in a true slot corner via FA. I'm not ruling out Malcolm Butler either. Draft a SS or see what it would take to acquire Morgan Burnett or take a flyer on Eric Reid. Offer Breaux a vet minimum, let him compete for a roster spot. I don't think he's a lock to make this 2018 team.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,834	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better Originally Posted by K Major Bring in a true slot corner via FA. I'm not ruling out Malcolm Butler either. Draft a SS or see what it would take to acquire Morgan Burnett or take a flyer on Eric Reid. Offer Breaux a vet minimum, let him compete for a roster spot. I don't think he's a lock to make this 2018 team. Butler will cost too much to be a #3. I would bring Breaux back as well with the lowest tender. Reid is a cancer and would destroy the locker room. We got rid of the bad influences in the past couple of years. No reason to bring in another. Resign Bush and let KV walk if he wants an arm and a leg. I would rather sign Moore, Bush and Breaux for the price it might be for KV. We have bigger needs than a safety that may not even start. Need a WR to go with MT and Ginn. Maybe steal a TE in the draft. Not to mention our O-line.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better Butler is not the slot CB everyone thinks he is and his market price won't justify his production - bank it... MatthewT, nola_swammi and 73Saint like this.

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